back to article Krebs throws himself on the grenade, resigns from SentinelOne after Trump revokes clearances

Chris Krebs, the former head of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and a longtime Trump target, has resigned from SentinelOne following a recent executive order that targeted him and revoked the security clearances of everybody at the company. Krebs, a Republican who Trump appointed to lead US …

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  2. elDog

    It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

    Thank you, Mr. Krebs. May your battle with the bastards not grind you down!

    1. cosmodrome

      Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

      I don't see much chance for him. As we all should know by now, stupidity always wins. I'm afraid we're on evolution's bad leg.

      1. Tron Silver badge

        Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

        Life is not like art, where you can have a happy ending. There are no happy endings in life, courtesy of the grim reaper, and the bad guys always win.

        Trump is going the full dictator, targeting individuals, rewriting history.

        Whilst wealthy and powerful Americans will be happy to be wealthier and more powerful, bagging freebies chasing taxiff manipulation, they might not enjoy being wealthy and powerful quite so much in the America that Trump is creating. Maybe they will just all move abroad.

        1. RPF

          Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

          Luckily our forefathers didn't subscribe to such weak pessimism 80 years ago.

          1. Ignazio

            Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

            Pessimism? You didn't notice we're back in a 1925-1935 sort of thing?

            By which I don't mean to imply they should be allowed to win easy. But the risk that they win, even for just a decade or two, is not pessimism at work.

        2. Alan Brown Silver badge

          Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

          This is repeating what happened in Germany 90 years ago.

          The world needs to step up and start offering sanctuary to the vulnerable before the USA prevents escape by cancelling travel documents(*), etc

          I'm aware that this is happening to some extent with French universities offering placements to USA academics but it needs to be ramped up

          (*) NB: This may have already started happening - and not recently. Shortly after 9/11 a whitehat security researcher I know claimed to have been pulled from the queue when travelling to Canada and warned not to attempt to exit the USA or he would be arrested. As a one-off that may be fabricated but these claims have kept resurfacing from time to time over the last 25 years

          The USA has been sleepwalking into fascism for a _very_ long time. Trump is merely the latest symptom of underlaying malice and malaise - and has manifested in a way that can't simply be handwaved off

    2. JimboSmith

      Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

      Mr Krebs posted this in response to Mark Hamill’s translation of a tweet by Trump about his firing.

      In defending democracy, do or do not, there is no try. This is the way. #Protect2020 @HamillHimself @PedroPascal1

      https://x.com/C_C_Krebs/status/1328953421882413056

      A friend who is a Yank and a Yankees fan and a republican said at the time

      It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You didn’t get as many votes, nor electoral college votes, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!

    3. Mark 85
      Unhappy

      Re: It is so refreshing and hopeful to see some people with integrity and a backbone.

      I raise my coffee mug in salute to Mr. Krebs and pray for his success and the strength to carry on. Trump really wants to be a dictator as seen by just about every news story posted about him.... some in praise and many in condemnation.

      Icon... I find this whole administration to be very worrying for the US and I'm sad about it.

  3. may_i Silver badge

    Bravo

    Nice to see a brave and honest man stand up to a bully.

    It will doubtlessly be a long and expensive fight - I hope there are plenty of people willing to put their hand in their wallet and help finance Chris's legal fund.

    1. abend0c4 Silver badge

      Re: Bravo

      It will doubtlessly be a long and expensive fight

      Rubio has been suggesting that the US is going to give up on the peace Donald Trump claimed he could bring to Ukraine in 24 hours because it's taking too long - possibly because Ukraine could see no obvious advantage in trading their sovereignty for Trump's Nobel Peace Prize.

      I wonder if the administration will tire as quickly in its pursuit of Trump's personal grudges as it has in its pursuit of matters of international importance?

      1. Xalran Silver badge

        Re: Bravo

        while Nero has the attention span of a toddler, he seems to be able to hold grudges for years.

        And now he's in a place where he can get revenge of all the puny things that irked him in full impunity.

  4. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Damage done

    Why should I now trust SentinelOne anyway?

    Presumably to keep their security clearance they have to abide by the Presidential line. So if they announce that China-very-very-bad is responsible for an attack or that an ongoing attack from Russia is fake-news, why am I paying them if they are just a replay of Trump's Twitter feed ?

    1. Roo
      Windows

      Re: Damage done

      9 down votes seems a bit harsh for a fair point. However your point is not limited to SentielOne, it applies to every single company within the grasp of Trump's malicious ketchup stained grasp.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Damage done

        Yes I wasn't critical of the guy that was persuaded to jump.

        But if there is fatal political pressures on security companies then they are no longer trustworthy

        1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          Re: Damage done

          "But if there is fatal political pressures on security US companies then they are no longer trustworthy"

          Neither are any "deals" made with Trump. He's demonstrated time after time that any deal he claims as "great" will be flushed down the toilet as soon as he sees an advantage in doing so, as Krebs found out the moment he disagreed with Trump.

          FTFY

      2. JoeCool Silver badge

        Re: Damage done

        i'm downvoting the flawed logic of offering up groundless speculation to support a prejudicial opinion.

      3. milliemoo83

        Re: Damage done

        "ketchup stained"

        I thought it was Tango?

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Damage done

      Trumplethinskin will take down both SentinelOne and Krebs, just because he can.

      1. cosmodrome

        Re: Damage done

        ...and, of course, because it is the most illogical, stupid and harmful thing to do. As I said above: stupidity always wins.

        1. Dan 55 Silver badge

          Re: Damage done

          It certainly does. He's also going after the forensic analyst who looked at Hunter Biden's laptop (see comment under article) which is odd because he apparently delivered what was required to start a case.

        2. Alan Brown Silver badge

          Re: Damage done

          The problem isn't that Trump is stupid

          It's that he's vindictive and stupid.

          It's the malicious vindictiveness which is dangerous and it would be vastly worse if he actually possessed impulse control - as it stands his tendency to rev his mouth at the slightest opportunity to hear his own whiny(*) voice has actually proven beneficial to those who have to try and counter him

          I'm willing to bet that he spent extensive time as a child pulling wings off (butter)flies and then laughing at them before graduating to poisoning puppies and kicking kittens

          (*) Yes it is whiny. He SOUNDS like a spoiled toddler, not a functional adult. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard

          Honestly, his gloating and capriciousness would be sorely pushing credibility as a D&D BBEG or Big Bad Evil Wannabe, having started off as a Cartman wannabe: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBadWannabe

          Someone is enabling this within the existing stuctures. We've known of his mafia money laundering links (NYC and Russian) for over 40 years and he really does seem to be the smoke and mirros distraction from somehting MUCH nastier going on behind the curtains

    3. jake Silver badge

      Re: Damage done

      Note that if you accidentally clicked the wrong button, you can change it from thumbs down to thumbs up or vice-versa by clicking on the appropriate button.

      This public service announcement brought to you by the letter þ and the number e.

      1. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

        Re: Damage done

        What you can't do is undo one when you didn't mean to click at all.

    4. smudge
      Facepalm

      Re: Damage done

      Presumably to keep their security clearance they have to abide by the Presidential line.

      Which part of "a recent executive order that targeted him and revoked the security clearances of everybody at the company" was unclear to you?

      They now don't have any security clearance to keep!

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Damage done

        According to the original article, the Govt. security clearances only applied to a very few staff and accounted for a small part of their business. They can, if they choose, simply not do that business any more and try to remain independent and trustworthy. Whether that's possible in the face of a vengeful and spiteful President is another matter.

        1. martinusher Silver badge

          Re: Damage done

          Individually, as citizens or companies, its difficult to push back. The assaults on us are coming fast from all directions, too fast for even a now concerned media to keep up with (and, I'd guess, its being done like that "by design"). But as Havard has taught us eventually the Administration comes up against something that's too big, too well endowed and just plain to clever for them to easily intimidate. Havard's response to the Administrations letter (itself a masterpiece of Doublespeak -- look it up) was to politely, but firmly, tell them to FO. The Administration immediately doubled down by threatening not just funding but the withdrawal of all student visas and the refusal to grant any in the future. They followed this by threatening to get the IRS to revoke its tax-exempt status. Its stood firm so now the Administration's next move is to say that the original letter was a 'mistake' that was sent out by underlings. They're really not fooling anyone, especially anyone who's been a parent.

          The lesson here is that to stand up to this bunch of gangsters you need deep pockets and a lot of willpower. Even then dealing with this bunch of gangsters is going to be a long, tedious, fight and its going to cost. But then that's the price we're paying for being careless and taking our democracy for granted.

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Damage done

        Which part of "a recent executive order" did you think could be relied on from one moment to the next. Trump makes BoJo look like a model of consistency.

  5. Mitoo Bobsworth Silver badge
    Trollface

    A government official resigns after Duh Fuhrer bullies him?

    I did Nazi that coming.

    1. AVR Silver badge

      Re: A government official resigns after Duh Fuhrer bullies him?

      Former govt official; SentinelOne isn't a public agency.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: A government official resigns after Duh Fuhrer bullies him?

        If he has any sense, he will leave the country. We know where this dance ends

        History my not repeat but it likes to rhyme a lot - and the groups behind what's happening now were heavy backers of American Naziism in the 1930s, as well as being responsible for the tieup between American corporations + evangelists in December 1940

  6. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge

    Next week :

    declaring him a non person and sending him on a vacation to central america.

    ... until some bright spark notices it costs 8 hrs flight time to send a plane there yet 1 hr to send it out over the ocean and back...

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Next week :

      Which ocean can you cross in 1h from 'murica? None. Not even with Concorde. No passenger civil plane can. Military and space agencies possibly, but not on short notice, and then withstand G-forces which require training.

      Edit: unless you mean "dump into the ocean"....

      1. doublelayer Silver badge

        Re: Next week :

        I don't think they were intending the plane to arrive at the other coast before turning back in their example. However, you could cross the Bering strait, which would make the Pacific Ocean an option if you need to make a trans-oceanic flight in that time. True, it's mostly cheating by doing the flying over land to make the ocean bit as fast as possible, but you can manage it.

        1. Xalran Silver badge

          Re: Next week :

          Except that you're going to cross the date line the wrong way and loose a day along the way. (ok, if you nitpick only 20 hours... at the time of this post it's 9:45 AM in Alaska, April 18th, and 5:45 AM in Russian Kamtchaka on April 19th )

          So your hour flight over the Berign straight is going to be very long ( actually it doesn't even need to be a flight... a boat between the Greater and the Smaller Diomede Islands will do and be shorter as there less than 5 miles between both )

      2. MiguelC Silver badge

        Re: Next week :

        Whoooooosh

        (that's the sound of the plane turning back 1h away from the US coastline after dropping you there)

        1. ColinPa Silver badge

          Re: Next week :

          Whoooosh - splash

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Next week :

      Not needed, it appears DOGE's latest trick is cancelling people's Social Security Number by letting them be declared deceased. Try to come back from the dead after that...

      1. alain williams Silver badge

        Re: Next week :

        You are implying that people who are alive are having their SSN cancelled. Please provide evidence.

        Having said that I would not be surprised if this were true, I doubt that Musk would lose much sleep over this. But I will not believe an unsubstantiated rumour.

        1. Dan 55 Silver badge

          Re: Next week :

          Here ya go:

          Trump administration overrode Social Security staff to list immigrants as dead - The Washington Post

          If you're declared dead it doesn't just affect your social security, your bank accounts, credit cards, etc... are frozen too.

          This is being done to legal foreign residents. And once the courts give up trying to get the Trump administration to stop doing this and to fix the damage already done to these people, then they can start on US citizens.

          1. veti Silver badge

            Re: Next week :

            Oh good, we can add "falsifying government records" to Musk's rap sheet. That's good for up to 20 years in Club Fed.

            1. Andrew Scott Bronze badge

              Re: Next week :

              have to wait till trumps out of office or he'll just get pardoned. think everyone in the administration should get a shingles vaccine, they all seem to have dementia.

            2. IGotOut Silver badge

              Re: Next week :

              And you think the richest scumbag in the world will go to gaol?

              Oh bless you, poor innocent child.

              1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

                Re: Next week :

                But is he the richest scumbag in the world? The competition is pretty strong.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Next week :

                  Not remotely. He's rich by normal standards, but only because he inherited a shitload of money from his father.

                  That's not the damning thing. The damning thing is that he's not a *lot* richer than he is.

                  This is the guy who built his entire public persona on being a "dealmaker". Who spent his life making alleged deals- and even more time boasting about them. Someone who's completely unimpeded by anything resembling a conscience, honour or empathy and quite happy to use that and the imbalance of financial power to bully people to get whatever he wants. Someone we know has been prepared to get involved with some exceptionally shady people and financial arrangements over the years.

                  And yet, despite all that effort on his part, it added up to nothing- it's generally estimated that Trump today is ultimately no richer than he would have been had he just plonked his entire inheritance in a tracker fund and spent his entire, worthless life working on his golf putt instead.

                  Sad!

                2. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Next week :

                  What a great time to be alive, when they are once again holding the Scumbag Olympics. This time in our country!

                3. jake Silver badge

                  Re: Next week :

                  "But is he the richest scumbag in the world?"

                  Hard to tell if you're talking about the Convicted Criminal in Chief or the Musk idiot.

                  If Musk, then without a shadow of a doubt, and by a wide margin in the rich department (on paper, anyway).

                  If the CCinC, then no on the rich, not even close ... but a very close second on the scumbag.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Next week :

          We need to start to watch other news channels, Fox Entertainment and/or Sky probably skipped this news.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Next week :

          https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-seeks-revoke-immigrants-social-security-numbers-2025-04-11/

  7. HuBo Silver badge
    Pint

    fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

    ... gaudeamus igitur ipso facto (I think). "It's a fight for democracy" (yes!)!

    ⁽¹⁾⁻ from Georges Brassens' "Les copains d'abord", great song!

    1. tekHedd

      Re: fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

      Georges Brassens is delightful, makes me annoyed I have to research every song to understand it. Sort of the Rammstein of France in that respect. (And quite possibly the only thing they have in common actually hmmm..)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

      It's the motto of Paris, a city of revolution. And yer actual Latin, unlike Illegitimi non carborundum. Interestingly, it seems to be the Ten Thousand Men of Harvard who may be forming a genuine opposition, unlike the millions of "ordinary" Americans who have been hording weapons ostensibly against the return of a King and yet seem unmoved by his arrival. But Harvard has a massive endowment, like Brassens's gorilla, to draw attention to its cause. Hopefully, on this occasion, they have reason to show the judge more respect as he is their only - and perhaps forlorn - hope.

      1. Ace2 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

        "unlike the millions of "ordinary" Americans who have been hording weapons ostensibly against the return of a King and yet seem unmoved by his arrival."

        Well put.

        1. RPF

          Re: fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

          "unlike the millions of "ordinary" Americans who have been hording weapons ostensibly against the return of a King and yet FACILITATED his arrival."

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: fluctuat nec mergitur⁽¹⁾ ...

        against the return of a King

        I should think George III even in his lunacy† would be a tad more rational than the current Dufenal I.

        Mad George was hardly an absolute monarch and arguably much of the beef the colonials had was with the policies of British government which were those of the parliament not just the addled ravings of the King. That situation is reversed in contemporary Trumpisstan.

        (1) the footnote was missing but the translation "[She] is tossed [by the waves], but does not sink" was likely intended.

        † as a student the suggestion that GRIII suffered from acute intermittent porphyria was doing the rounds not sure this is still the case.

  8. Thought About IT

    Trump doing what he's always done

    Anybody who has any doubts about Trump's thirst for vengeance should read this:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-bitter-personal-feud-with-pritzker-family-is-behind-his-harvard-hate-campaign/

    1. Sherrie Ludwig

      Re: Trump doing what he's always done

      @Thought About IT,

      Thank you for the enlightening article. I am a never-T****er who has a Pritzker (J.B.) as my state's governor. I was suspicious of J.B., and preferred another candidate the first time he ran, but have been very pleasantly surprised by his governance, especially in financially improving a state (wrecked by both parties, to be fair) that was junk bond status. If J.B. harbors presidential ambitions I would be sorry to lose him as governor but think he would do well as a president.

  9. smudge
    Holmes

    Be consistent in your lying :)

    "Krebs, through CISA, falsely and baselessly denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen, including by inappropriately and categorically dismissing widespread election malfeasance and serious vulnerabilities with voting machines," [said] the presidential missive.

    So they are still saying that the 2020 election was stolen.

    So why are they saying that Biden's pardons are invalid because they were signed by an autopen?

    Surely they should be invalid because he was never President?

    Idiots.

    1. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Re: Be consistent in your lying :)

      > Surely they should be invalid because he was never President?

      Which by implication means that Trump was...and is now in his third term and should be booted out promptly!

    2. MJB7
      Holmes

      Re: Be consistent in your lying :)

      I am pretty sure that because Congress certified the election results, Biden was president, even if the election results were false (spoiler: they weren't).

    3. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: Be consistent in your lying :)

      Consistency is the last thing in Trump and his government. Unless you count consistently going after anyone who disagrees with him.

      As for logic, let's not even go there . . .

  10. TimMaher Silver badge
    Trollface

    In other news…

    Mike Lindell, one of the liars prosecuted for saying the Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems were bent, at the previous election, has started crying in court because ha can’t pay the fine.

    Arse wipe.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: In other news…

      I'm sure the court will provide an alternative measure of imprisonment.

  11. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

    You probably don't read El Reg...

    ... Mr President, but just in case you do, you're a wanker. Just saying.

  12. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

    Need some very wealthy US citizens to step up....

    Those with foreign-sounding names to speak up and insist that they are dead. The incentives are massive: no tax to pay!

    Hmm, Musk could play that card himself, one day.

    Will Trump backtrack because of all that lost revenue?

    EDIT (My comment should be threaded under those discussing revoking SSN's for obviously alive citizens).

    1. Excused Boots Silver badge

      Re: Need some very wealthy US citizens to step up....

      Well not only no tax to pay, but, hypothetically could a 'legally dead' person now commit any crime they wanted to safe in the knowledge that they can never be punished, because, well they are already dead?

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Need some very wealthy US citizens to step up....

        That doesn't work, even in movies and crime series it fails...

  13. anderlan

    "SentinelOne had no involvement in Krebs' past government work, and the move to name the cybersecurity firm appears more retaliatory than regulatory."

    This caused the voice in my head to shout "NO DUH!" more loudly than I am accustomed to while sagely reading el Reg.

  14. MuleD

    El Reg...you disappoint me

    Let me start of with I am a HUGE supporter of The Register and normally find them generally non-partisan and I believe they try to stick to the facts as they see them BUT...they disappoint me with this article and specifically its title "Krebs throws himself on grenade..." The Reg is fully aware that Chris Krebs and Brian Krebs (of Krebs on Security ) are two different people and while they are in the same field using a play on their names rubs me the wrong way. The Reg knows full well that some people just scan headlines and skim articles and that they will assume that this is Brian Krebs making this sacrifice. Brian Krebs is a beloved cybersecurity cornerstone, Chirs Krebs is a corporate executive. I wish the article would have made that distinction. --Mule

    1. Flat Phillip

      Literally the first word..

      in the article is "Chris".

      They're not exactly hiding the fact.

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