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The three wise Microsoft monkeys have spoken. If Windows Update displayed an error after installing the April 2025 Windows Recovery Environment release, you didn't see anything. Best to ignore it and move on. The software, KB5057589, was released for Windows 10 devices on April 8 and, according to Microsoft, "installs …

  1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    There's nothing like thorough testing and this was ...

    Is it surprising that so many of us fail to see this as an acceptable platform for daily use?

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Modern times require modern idiots.©®™

    2. biddibiddibiddibiddi Silver badge

      > Is it surprising that so many of us fail to see this as an acceptable platform for daily use?

      Fail to see it as acceptable? No, most of us do still see it as acceptable.

  2. Dan 55 Silver badge
    FAIL

    "Too hard to fix - let's pretend it installed correctly"

    Microsoft really are attracting the best and the brightest these days. See also...

  3. Howard Sway Silver badge

    You might see the following error message – ERROR_INSTALL_FAILURE

    Presumably if you see INSTALL_SUCCESSFULLY_COMPLETED then it's time to start worrying.

    1. DJV Silver badge

      Re: You might see the following error message – ERROR_INSTALL_FAILURE

      Yes, unless it's after you've wiped every shred of Windows from your PC and installed Linux instead!

      1. GNU Enjoyer
        Angel

        Re: You might see the following error message – ERROR_INSTALL_FAILURE

        I tried that, but it just printed out?:

        No working init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.

        See Linux Documentation/admin-guide/init.rst for guidance.

        I needed to try one of these to get a booting computer; https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html - it turns out you need to install GNU/Linux-libre to get a working computer?

    2. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

      Re: You might see the following error message – ERROR_INSTALL_FAILURE

      ERROR_BAD_MOON_RISING

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: You might see the following error message – ERROR_INSTALL_FAILURE

        > ERROR_BAD_MOON_RISING

        I've heard rumours of that error message, but never given them any Credence.

  4. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    "Typically"

    "Although the error message suggests the update did not complete, the WinRE update is typically applied successfully after the device restarts," Microsoft adds.

    That's like walking up to an info kiosk stuck in the middle of a trackless desert and finding a featureless map with a red star labelled, "You may be here."

    1. Snake Silver badge

      Re: "Typically"

      Really, the knee-jerking around here...

      ""Although the error message suggests the update did not complete, the WinRE update is typically applied successfully after the device restarts"

      sounding like, and meaning, there was a dependency that prevented WinRE from updating whilst the OS kept that dependent system online. Once offline, via the reboot, the update installs successfully.

      In other words, the error message is correct at that moment in time, of the WinRE package attempting to run. Just as Linux would have told you - 'I can't install that package right now Dave, there is a locked dependency." If MS is guilty of anything, it is:

      a) not stating why the update failed in (stating the dependency), and

      b) not following up with a full "Update properly installed" status later, on the same Settings page (rather than simply clearing it out without an explanation).

      Maybe Linux does something like this better. But, also, maybe not - it depends upon the package.

      1. biddibiddibiddibiddi Silver badge

        Re: "Typically"

        Saying it failed is still incorrect, if it's just pending a restart to finish replacing files. All their other updates that have to replace locked files just say "pending restart", after all. It's also an update to the WinRE partition, which should never be locked/in-use while the normal operating system is up. Microsoft themselves have provided instructions for completely deleting and rebuilding the WinRE partition while Windows is running. These updates just need to perform the same process using the new version of the WinRE image file, which is a relatively small file that they could download rather than "patching" the existing image.

        The real issue is that this is I think the 4th time they've released an update for the WinRE partition which has failed with this exact same error code. They just cannot seem to get the process right. The only difference this time is that supposedly it does actually get installed and the error will clear, but time will tell whether that's actually true. They're not blaming it on the WinRE partition being too small, this time. The previous times, the update would not actually ever install, but the error would sometimes clear, then re-appear the next time updates ran and it tried to install again, and Microsoft would provide a complicated and potentially risky set of command line instructions for adjusting what was patently NOT the problem (the failure occurred regardless of the size of the partition for many people). Or at one point provided the manual method to install the patch then said "now you can just ignore the error that will continue to appear when updates run, even though the WinRE has been updated".

        1. Avalanche

          Re: "Typically"

          Given I successfully fixed the previous occurrence of this issue *on multiple machines* by deleting and recreating a larger WinRE partition using those instructions, your claim that it was just a blame-game, and not the actual problem is clearly false. However, with Microsoft, it is entirely possible that there are multiple causes of this issue...

          1. biddibiddibiddibiddi Silver badge

            Re: "Typically"

            My WinRE partition is 2GB in size now. It should only need to be 512MB at most for a standard English-only install (the WinRE image that gets copied to it is a whopping 128MB in size). I had it at 1GB because of some previous issues related to the size some years ago. I increased it again the first time this failure occurred, just to see if it would help. Every time they've released one of these updates, I've gotten the failure message over and over, across weeks of updates running, until it finally went away on its own. At one point they told people how to manually install the update using the patch from the Microsoft Update Catalog (which I did) but specifically mentioned that you'd STILL get the error message even though your system had the security fix involved.

            The sheer fact that they've released MULTIPLE updates that do the same underlying thing (updating the WinRE image) but they also all FAIL to install for so many people, and the only "fix" they can suggest involves using command line tools to modify your partitions, and THAT doesn't always fix the problem, shows that they've got some major underlying broken code that they either can't figure out how to fix or just don't care enough to put the resources into doing it, and decided that it's okay to just pass responsibility off to their customers.

  5. m4r35n357 Silver badge

    Comedy OS

    Satire, slapstick & profanity, what more could you want?

    As long as it is not stand-up.

    1. MonkeyJuice Bronze badge

      Re: Comedy OS

      More like fall-over.

  6. Mentat74
    Facepalm

    An OS so bad...

    They can't even get their error messages right !

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: An OS so bad...

      Some of us can remember even worse error messages from the past.

      "Task failed successfully" is one of my favorite. (yes, an actual error message from days of yore)

      "Unknown Error" was quite popular as well.

      1. Ken Shabby Silver badge
        FAIL

        Re: An OS so bad...

        Sorry Dave, “Something went wrong!”

  7. Pussifer
    Linux

    ". . . Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE), which users access when their device is unbootable" - what's this 'device is unbootable' mentioned? If my device is unbootable it's because of a hardware failure not my OS pooping it's pants.

    1. LVPC

      Not necessarily - for example, I have driver updates disabled because Windows kept installing an old driver over my video cards New driver. Plugged I a new piece of hardware (that actually doesn't need a driver), Windows tried to install the "recommended" driver anyway, totally unbootable, even after the device was physically removed.

      So, reset PC, data safe but have to reinstall and reconfigure all programs. And remove deal like OneDrive, etc.

      Most "drivers" are basically spyware nowadays. Machine runs just fine without them. Some of the nastier ones (Armory Crate, poorly written, very inefficient) require a reformat and restore from backups to get rid of every trace.

      1. Pussifer

        Windows 'pooping it's pants' due to a driver it tried to install but didn't need?

      2. mattaw2001

        PSA - Windows will install and execute programs from the ASUS BIOS

        Public Service Announcement:

        Windows will install and execute programs (in my case part of the Armory Crate) from the ASUS BIOS unless you disable it in BIOS. Other motherboards can also do this.

        What idiot thought this was a good idea ?!?!

        https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4438288

        1. LVPC

          Re: PSA - Windows will install and execute programs from the ASUS BIOS

          The Nvidia 1060ti initialization routine tries to downloaded a driver on boot. This is on a fresh install with no drivers. Easiest way to kill it was to stick the cards in a Linux box.

    2. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge
      Linux

      "what's this 'device is unbootable' mentioned?"

      I bet I can get it to boot something. Maybe just not Windows.

      Challenge accepted.

  8. navarac Silver badge

    Pathetic

    Microsoft is just so pathetic these days. Why would anyone trust it and its crapware? It seems that every day there is something to report. SatNad needs sacking, together with other C-Suite members and a lot of the coders. I won't put testers, as they don't have any!

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Pathetic

      These days? It always has been.

      Those of us who hate M$ are not young edgelords. We've been dealing with their bollocks for decades.

  9. snee
    Linux

    Let's just hope the death knoll of Windows 10 pushes more companies to embrace the penguin...

    1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_knell

      Maybe not grassy enough? ;)

      1. James O'Shea Silver badge

        Possibly he meant this: https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/16904-gnoll

        1. David 132 Silver badge

          Bit scarier than the Discworld creatures of the same name, which were ambulatory compost-heaps!

          Anyway, “knolling” is the term for laying tools, materials etc. out on a work surface orthogonally and with precision, as demonstrated by James May in The Reassembler, among others.

          1. David 132 Silver badge
            Pint

            Warming to my theme and amusing myself (and only myself, I know), I suppose a "Death Knoll" would be

            I HAVE LAID MY SCYTHE AND LIFE-TIMERS OUT NEATLY ON THE DESK. I LIKE IT THAT WAY. IT MAKES THEM EASY TO FIND.

            (SQUEAK)

            OH, IT'S YOU AGAIN. STAY OFF MY DESK.

            Icon - a pint of Winkle's raised to the memory of Sir Terry -->

    2. Pussifer

      Escape goat - https://youtu.be/gZE85L2XHSc?si=r4zdI91bLACJ-PMY&t=1090 - and many others in this full episode of Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Good-ish. All episodes of Modern Life is Good-ish are worth a look. Plus his Googlewack program, all available on his YT channel - Gorm Hub - https://www.youtube.com/@davegorman235/videos

      Sorry snee :-)

      1. m4r35n357 Silver badge

        More examples here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn

        Pardon me for being such a damp squid ;)

        1. David 132 Silver badge

          See also Reddit's /r/boneappletea.

    3. ecofeco Silver badge

      Not when the companies' stock portfolios included M$.

  10. Terry 6 Silver badge

    Error messages of a generic useless type

    reporting the same 0x80070643 generic install failure to some users, rather than something more helpful.

    Windows is full of these types of messages.

    Almost inevitably a search for the specific code or wording will come up with some kind of definition along the lines of "there's been some sort of failure in something somewhere"

    1. ComicalEngineer Bronze badge

      Re: Error messages of a generic useless type

      would this DOS error be applicable?

      DOS Error 217 Zombie process.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Error messages of a generic useless type

      > Almost inevitably a search for the specific code or wording will come up with some kind of a definition along the lines of "there's been some sort of failure in something somewhere"

      FTFY.

  11. PB90210 Silver badge

    I had this last month, when they released a fix (KB5050411) for a WinRE update (KB5048239) they released the month before was failing to install for some people

    In my case the original fix had fixed the problem but the fixed fix wasn't installing properly. It would appear as fixed but the version number wasn't being updated, so a reboot and it reappeared as an update... in the end I uninstalled the original fix and let it install the fixed fix

    (KB5057589 replaces KB5050411 which replaced KB5048239)

    1. veti Silver badge

      Came here looking for the comment that this is hardly new. Updates display error messages about as often as not, in my experience. But it's not as if you can do anything about them anyway. Just push on through, and see what the system looks like at the end.

  12. bill 27
    IT Angle

    It's like deja vu all over again.

    I have a screenshot of the end result of installing some software on a WinNT Server way back in practically pre-history. It says "The XXXXX service depends on the YYYYY service which failed to start because of the following error: The operation completed successfully."

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: It's like deja vu all over again.

      Yep. I remember the days of NT.

      And the M$ fanbois think our hate for M$ is just us trying to be edgy.

      1. bill 27

        Re: It's like deja vu all over again.

        Yeah, got called into work in the dead of the night because the NT server that was the primary for DNS resolution malfunctioned. The secondary DNS box, another NT server, also had malfunctioned. I restarted them. In looking into the problem the resolution came down to...drum roll...a faulty printer driver.

        1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          Re: It's like deja vu all over again.

          The more things change...

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    There's an issue with the April W11 and Server 2025 CU on some machines too, in that it fails to install with an unhelpful generic error code. All the usual tactics (downloading the full installer from the Microsoft Catalog site, deleting the update cache, etc, fail to work.

    A user on another forum said the only solution they'd found was to download the Windows ISO and effectively do an in-place upgrade to the same version, keeping files, folders and settings when asked. I tried that and it does work, I think.

  14. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

    "...which users access when their device is unbootable."

    Use of the word "when" rather than "if" is somewhat unsettling.

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