WTAF. I don't know what else to say. The future of the space sciences needs to avoid involvement with the US.
White House budget proposal could beam NASA science back decades
The US administration appears set to slash NASA's science budget with cuts to spending in the order of almost 50 percent, according to a draft of the White House's proposal. The document, known as a "passback" and first reported by Ars Technica, is still a proposal and requires approval by lawmakers. It does, however, lend …
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Monday 14th April 2025 17:00 GMT Mishak
I don't imagine many international projects (not just space) will want to retain connections with the US where funding is involved.
I feel really sorry for the scientists that are going to be affected. I just hope the rest of the world will welcome and support them if they decide they need to move elsewhere to get work.
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Monday 14th April 2025 16:57 GMT TVU
White House budget proposal could beam NASA science back decades
Trump recognises that China is a major economic power and trading competitor hence his misguided tariffs policy but it is also second only to the USA in the area of science research.
These deep cuts are happening in the biosciences as well and it is a profoundly ignorant policy that will help China catch up and surpass the USA plus there will be a brain drain to Canada, the UK, Australia and Europe and once established, those senior American scientists will be less likely to return back to the USA.
If you want an example of a Brave New World epsilon semi-moron, then look and see who is in the White House right now.
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Monday 14th April 2025 17:20 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: White House budget proposal could beam NASA science back decades
I thought America has a flourishing biochemistry industry based on the striving of small time hard working American high school teachers ? Despite the oppressive burdens on unfair government regulation and unfair competition form Mexico and Canadian imports.
Surely they can pivot to making Ivermectin and Ozempic ?
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Monday 14th April 2025 17:46 GMT TVU
Re: White House budget proposal could beam NASA science back decades
The United States has a successful $600 billion+ pharmaceutical industry and that is ultimately dependent upon ongoing basic biological science and medical research and if that research is slashed then it will have long term implications for the US pharmaceutical industry and not in a good way.
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Monday 14th April 2025 18:56 GMT Grindslow_knoll
Re: White House budget proposal could beam NASA science back decades
This, 100% this. The massive disruption to STEM graduate training means big pharma loses out, because its scientific staff is trained by US universities. Canadian universities are re-opening program admittance deadlines now to accomodate those US students whose offers were retracted, for example.
One of the major 'industries' in the US is its higher education, providing expensive graduate training, that is something that took decades to cultivate, and now it's moving abroad in a few short months.
And assuming big pharma in US can just hire from abroad is unlikely, because of the deep fear any non-US citizen now has in evening considering going to the US.
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Monday 14th April 2025 20:14 GMT Rafael #872397
Re: Hands up...
The best bible that is, people keep saying. Each kid in each school will get one. In pink and gold or camo edition for the Truly Patriots!
(any doubt God is dead, or at least hiding)?
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Monday 14th April 2025 21:59 GMT that one in the corner
What about the Rockstar Probes?
The Voyagers are still out there, albeit on their last few gasps. New Horizons will reach the heliopause around the 2040-plus-a-bit mark, fingers crossed.
If JPL stops looking after them prematurely then we lose our chance at data from that far out for half a century, just due to the travel time.
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Tuesday 15th April 2025 05:27 GMT Conundrum1885
Scrappage
They seriously want to scrap a built $xxB telescope that is ready for launch because some absolute asshat in the White House wants boots on Mars, an impossible task with today's technology even with Manhattan Project level funding as long as certain treaties are in force (namely the NPT)
NASA is a national treasure, had the experts been listened to and not told to waste resources on a 'reuseable' spacecraft when it would have been cheaper and simpler to reuse existing external tank hardware and SSMEs for conventional launches. Instead the Powers-That-Be wasted decades trying to make the Shuttle work for things it wasn't designed for, knowing full well that it would one day fail catastrophically at great human cost. The US Air Force could have built their own improved version with 'better' thermal tiles made from superior materials and it would have worked.
I actually hope that the Chinese do go to Mars, purely so we can call it the Red Planet. They're welcome to it.
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Tuesday 15th April 2025 13:02 GMT Andrew Scott
Re: Where's the profit for Musk?
destroy all federal agencies, then say "see the government run programs don't work!". now privatize everything and put all that money in the hands of people like musk. If it isn't privatized then send the money directly to "red" stated where it will be distributed to people like Bret Favre. they have a plan.
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