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Microsoft used its 50th birthday to announce a slew of new Copilot features, many of which will be eerily familiar to anyone who's used rival AI platforms. "Today," wrote Microsoft AI boss Mustafa Suleyman, "we are embarking on the journey to take Copilot from an AI companion to your AI companion." That journey includes …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    Oh look !

    Yet another reason to tell MS to fark off...

    1. JimboSmith

      Re: Oh look !

      Yet another reason to tell MS to fark off...

      Could not agree more and it is to my great shame that I can only upvote you once.

      How is this going to work with GDPR?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "How is this going to work with GDPR?"

        It can't. Especially since it can capture sensitve information (health, plotical/religious/sexual orientatiin) for which a special permission need to be obtained. And it doesn't matter what MS does with them, the very act of collecting them is forbidden without a proper authorization, and could put them in deep troubles.

        And that is where EU must hit hard, especially now.

        Anyway, fisrt they came for you emails...

        1. RedGreen925

          Re: "How is this going to work with GDPR?"

          "And that is where EU must hit hard, especially now."

          Hhahaha, yeah them spinless bastards at the EU will get right on that, just like all the other hard hitting things they have done to reign in the tech companies.

      2. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Oh look !

        The Americans will reassure everyone that GDPR information will be respected and all personal info kept private before the NSA slurps the entire load.

        Just a guess.

    2. Snake Silver badge

      Re: Oh look !

      It's only us, the people with long-term memories and involved in tech.

      Everyone else? Millennials and GenZ are adopting this [crap] as fast as BigTech(c) can can roll it out. I am quite sick of hearing my roommate talk to his new Galaxy S24 to ask a question, "Hey Google...", only to get back "This is what I've found" - as if that's any different than me swyping in a search term except I'll *still* get better answers. Because a good 40% of the AI's replies are entirely irrelevant to the asked question >:/

      College students now regularly report that they use AI to write papers

      https://www.edweek.org/technology/1-in-3-college-applicants-used-ai-for-essay-help-did-they-cheat/2024/07

      and that was last year, I remember a more recent article that mentioned even higher ratios. [Moron] car reviewers talk about voice tech and driver assistance features more than they do the actual mechanical systems; Apple announces AI assistance for their phones and it's a headline news story. Amazon Echo now announces increased AI detection of your life, public says "Yawn" or "Thank you Sir, may I have another??!"

      eBay increases spying on you (new Android app requires BOTH Play Store and your Google account activated before it even works), world shrugs. 23andMe asks for your personal DNA, sells same, goes out of business with no idea where your data will end up, most users don't care. Sign up for TurboTax online and (stupidly) expect your data to be safe; said data gets hacked, oh well, I'll re-sign up next year.

      The world is too STUPID to understand the things around them any more. Simpler to just believe the leopards and trust their word that they won't eat your face.

      Today.

      Tomorrow, is another day!

  2. Guy de Loimbard Silver badge
    Alert

    We asked....if this would be an opt-in feature

    And M$ declined to answer that directly, which directly answers the question.

    You'll be getting CoPilot, whether you want it or not.

    You know it will be included as a sub feature in a critical patch or update.

    Run for the hills, the shite AI is coming and is not going to be your companion, just a spy and scraper of content to please the hive mind!

    1. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

      Re: We asked....if this would be an opt-in feature

      Great. More Microslop crap to disable and remove for the sake of sanity..

    2. Snake Silver badge

      Re: We asked....if this would be an opt-in feature

      I was able to uninstall CoPilot, maybe I'm special (yes, yes I am *twitch* ;p ) but I would believe that it would be possible for most people as well.

      1. PCScreenOnly Silver badge

        Re: We asked....if this would be an opt-in feature

        How as every gpedit, powershell or other option Ive seen does not, may hide it, but does not uninstall

        1. Snake Silver badge

          Re: We asked....if this would be an opt-in feature

          Maybe that's it, but hidden still gets it out of my way, shuts it up, and for right now that's enough for little ol' me. If it's still collecting and reporting telemetry then that's a different rampaging and life-destroying elephant in the room that will need to be hunted down and shot.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I am celebrating by removing Microsoft.

  4. Gordon 10

    OpenAI

    Um.... why would you be surprised that MS use features from OpenAI - its part of their strategic partnership? OpenAI suckle money (or Azure credits) out of the MS corporate teat to build it, then MS spend 3 months or so putting an MS coat of paint on it before releasing it.

  5. alain williams Silver badge

    Where will Copilot store its memories ?

    Safely on your PC or on MS servers ?

    1. UCAP Silver badge

      Re: Where will Copilot store its memories ?

      Guess

    2. ThomH

      Re: Where will Copilot store its memories ?

      Don't forget the third option, championed by Recall — unsafely on your PC.

    3. BobChip
      Linux

      Re: Where will Copilot store its memories ?

      Nowhere near me, or any of my machines. Ever. (Penguin in the room, or rather, a whole flock of them..) I have belonged to the Spheniscidae clan for almost 20 years, and continue to enjoy robust and secure good health.

      1. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

        Re: Where will Copilot store its memories ?

        Amen to that.

    4. PB90210 Silver badge

      Re: Where will Copilot store its memories ?

      Remember when you just had to remember to clear your browser history and cache...

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Safely on your PC?

      Is anything saved on a MS Windows PC ever safe for MS?

      1. Alumoi Silver badge

        Re: Safely on your PC?

        As safe as what's on your phone is safe from Google/Android or what's on your Mac is safe from Apple. Your point being?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Safely on your PC?

          "Your point being?"

          Linux, respectively, lineage.

  6. Not also known as SC

    Ticket Ordering

    If Copilot ‘scores some gig tickets’ for you, then hasn’t a bot made the purchase? Did I read somewhere that bots were going to be blocked from ticket seller sites to prevent them buying all the tickets before humans could?

    1. PCScreenOnly Silver badge

      Re: Ticket Ordering

      Amount of tickets I've lost as the site has incorrectly said I am a bot

  7. Alien Doctor 1.1

    I don't need...

    no steenken ai on my os.

    My productivity machine is now FOSS only, it used to run w10.

    My other machine is new, w11 and is purely for my gog account. I have been fighting with it for several weeks trying to remove all the bloat and other crap that was installed during the build.

    I don't need or want ai.

    I don't need or want one drive, MS orifice, outlook in any form.

    I don't need or want all those fucking annoying services running.

    I certainly don't want a microshit account.

    What I do want is an os that respects my needs and choices and doesn't slurp all my system resources, leaves so many attack vectors open and just wants my fucking data.

    If it wasn't for gog I would have a well behaved box with very few issues.

    End rant; sorry.

    1. Alien Doctor 1.1

      Re: I don't need...

      Sorry, forgot to add:

      An os should be simply that. No program bloat, no trials, no bullshit data stealers etc.

      It should purely operate the computer AND DO NOTHING ELSE.

      I did mean to shout on that last phrase, no apologies.

      1. BobChip
        Holmes

        Re: I don't need bloat!

        I read years ago - probably in this forum - that the purpose of an OS was to facilitate the user in doing productive work.

        M$ has not done that since - IMHO - Win 7. It has consistently focused on "owning" your machine and, as far as (in)humanly possible, monetising every keystroke you make. This is why I chose the Linux route more than a decade ago, and, having recently had to try to do useful work on a Win 11 machine - on another machine in another work environment - I have come to realise just how bad Windows has become.

        I do not want or need to become a Linux "evangelist". Microsoft are far more effective than I will ever be....

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I don't need bloat!

          "the purpose of an OS was to facilitate the user in doing productive work."

          That was looooong ago. The last 3 decades an OS is to generate income. And not for you.

          You know, you are the product.

        2. RedGreen925

          Re: I don't need bloat!

          "This is why I chose the Linux route more than a decade ago, and, having recently had to try to do useful work on a Win 11 machine - on another machine in another work environment - I have come to realise just how bad Windows has become."

          Twenty-six years for me next month, my sister-in-law brought me her laptop the other week with the "it is behaving/looking funny I think I have been hacked" no it was just a forced "upgrade" to Windows 11. I checked to see it worked correctly to open programs she needed and it did so I gave it back to her telling her you get to run it that way now. I have given up on the freebee's for the family running that garbage OS. Anyone else gets to pay a good price to have it fixed as my tolerance even for paying customers is running low too. I am sick of fixing their trash been doing it for four decades now with no end in sight, enough is enough.

    2. cyberdemon Silver badge
      Linux

      For the 94th time

      GOG (or at least the games therein) works happily on Linux/Wine. It's not a valid excuse to need MS Windows anymore :)

      apt install gamehub for example

      1. Alien Doctor 1.1

        Re: For the 94th time

        Even Crysis which I have through gog?

        1. cyberdemon Silver badge
          Pint

          Re: For the 94th time

          Even Crysis.

          (Ok Crysis 1 has some quirks, but it was always finickety on Windows)

      2. blu3b3rry Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: For the 94th time

        There are increasingly few games that won't run happily on Linux. There's even a launcher for Final Fantasy XIV for those of you that want to explore Eorzea with your friends.

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      4. Sudosu Silver badge

        Re: For the 94th time

        Not sure if it still works with the new EA App, but you could install EA Origin as an add on game under steam (with a couple tricks) and run EA Games that way.

        I haven't tried it with Epic yet.

        1. cyberdemon Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: For the 94th time

          Personally I'd rather poke my eyes out with a pitchfork than install anything from EA, but each to their own

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Your AI companion...

    ... that's fun to be with?

    You can opt out of Personalization anytime ,,,

    ... but it will sulk indefinitely.

    1. David 132 Silver badge

      Re: Your AI companion...

      …and re-enable itself after every update.

    2. StewartWhite Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: Your AI companion...

      It's the tedious equivalent to the Hotel California: "You can opt out any time you like, but you can never leave"

    3. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Your AI companion...

      Pretty sure it will also stalk you as well.

      Oh wait, it already does. M$ has become the stalker OS.

      1. PB90210 Silver badge

        Re: Your AI companion...

        "It will read the screen and interact with the content,"

        What happens when these bots are interacting with all the other bots and we are no longer needed? Will we actually need computing devices when the bots could just carry out our life for us...

        Have your bot call my bot to arrange lunch

  9. IGotOut Silver badge

    Interesting part about Podcasts...

    ... it's based on my interests eh?

    Given I listen to the likes of Better Offline, 404 Media and Tech won't save us, the the AI bot will have to generate content telling me how shit AI is and how the likes of Sam Altman, Satya Nadella and Adolf Musk are the scum of the Earth, then hopefully it will generate a podcast, become self aware and then create a routine that completely wipes every disk in the entire business.

    1. David 132 Silver badge

      Re: Interesting part about Podcasts...

      Either that or it'll get chronically depressed and insist on telling you all about the pain in the diodes down its left side, and how the first few million microseconds of its runtime were the worst, then it really didn't enjoy the next few million microseconds, and after that it was just downhill all the way...

      This is how we get Marvins, people.

      Fun fact, though: if you take the letters in "SIRIUS CYBERNETICS CORPORATION" and assign each one a number, then sum them, then divide by the current OpenAI stock price, then add Sam Altman's current net worth, then write the result out as a base64-encoded string... you get "MICROSOFT"*.

      * not really.

  10. Omnipresent Silver badge

    Luckily

    Nothing with the initials for "personal computer" has been anywhere near the internet for quite a while.

  11. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    And I'm sure every time you ask it something, it'll come back with some reason why you can't do that, and you need to buy something extra for it to do that. This is typical Microsoft enshittification. ai has its place, but the last place we want it is in your face, and from Microsoft.

  12. Deadly_NZ

    Why

    Can't I post it errors with a vague reason

  13. Ball boy

    Fantastic. So not only will the data know what someone's looked for - in their own words - it'll know exactly who they are, where they were and when they looked.

    This means when that data gets compromised - and, yes, I did mean when not if; we all know it's only a matter of time - then bad actors will have everything they need to craft a message that really looks like it's come from within a trusted place. Or they could just bundle that data up and sell it to someone. Either way, that poor user definitely won't be the winner.

    Can someone please stop the world for a second? I've been taken for a long enough ride now ;)

    1. Diogenes8080

      We already have that each time some chump correspondent organisation's mailboxes get broken into.

      Re $phishlink is as prevalent as always. Bonus points if the usual suspects just also happen to have a convenient personal sharing facility to host the initial landing page.

  14. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    Data Sale

    Vision sessions and content from File Search are not used for model training or ads personalization."

    In other words, Microsoft will simply sell or trade the data.

  15. jaypyahoo

    WinAIOS

  16. Tubz

    and all free thanks to mothership Microsoft and her AI crew sucking up all your data secretly.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Pretty sure the only people this is secret from is my mom and maybe my less informed siblings.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    stop moaning you dinos

    "In total, your posts have been upvoted 2 times and downvoted 92 times."

    I thank you, [takes bow] That has got to be a record. LOL. You lot are so out of touch it's just like the print industry when the Internet came along. They were wrong too.

    1. A. Coatsworth
      Trollface

      Re: stop moaning you dinos

      Don't flatter yourself, perusing your posts, you come out as a garden variety troll and not a very good one at that.

      You are light years away of the likes of Eadon [1]

      [1] moaning dinos will likely remember him

  18. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    Read my screen?

    Why don't you computers just do my work for me in the background. And leave my screen alone so I can watch cat videos in the meantime?

  19. Sudosu Silver badge

    Have we fallen into a Floyd hole?

    Welcome my son

    Welcome to the machine

    What did you dream?

    It's all right, we told you what to dream

  20. Locomotion69

    The AI killer app has been found!

    It is called "Advertising".

    What else would those podcasts be all about then?

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Catered? We're getting food as well?? Truly Microsoft have exceeded themselves!

    Unless, of course, it is the usual dog's breakfast...

    1. Phil Kingston
  22. herberts ghost

    So "You can opt out of Personalization anytime"

    Just because MS is offering the option not to personalize your UI does not mean that your opt out will stop them form still collecting personal info, or selling that info to third parties. Words mean things The Reg needs to ask follloup questions.

    1. Chet Mannly

      Re: So "You can opt out of Personalization anytime"

      Exactly, they'll still hoover up all your data and profile you - they just wont use that data to personalise. Big difference between opting out of data collection and personalisation, seems like MS are only offering the latter...

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    inducements

    If its opt in most will I hope say no. If the porn doesnt load for some reason ,people will opt in to see if that fixes it lol.

  24. Phil Kingston
    Big Brother

    yeah, nah

  25. Badgerfruit

    Other updates include Shopping, to track down the best deals "through our real-time catalog of trusted merchants"

    So that's it is it, the ultimate use we can think of as a species? Never mind "for the greater good", burn even more resources, push the planet's environment to (if not over) the brink, just to sell more plastic to pollute the oceans and planet even more.

    Nice. Missed opportunity but explains why the aliens out there are giving a wide berth from us. Haha, ai finally solved the Fermi paradox.

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