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President Trump yesterday fired the head of the NSA and US Cyber Command and his deputy. The removal was confirmed today by Senator Mark Warner (D-VA), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. The Pentagon declined to comment. A spokesperson told us: "We’ve seen the reports but have nothing to offer at this time. We …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    NSA

    "We will provide more information when it becomes available."

    No, they will not. They are the NSA.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: NSA

      I'm sure they'll do as they say. It just won't become available.

      1. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck

        Re: NSA

        Besides, Trump would shut down any reports before they were made public to embarrass him.

    2. KarMann Silver badge
      Stop

      Re: NSA

      That was the Pentagon. The NSA was just 'no comment.'

  2. DJ

    Thank you, Comrade

    With most sincerely,

    Xi

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Thank you, Comrade

      You really think President Putin is a puppet of China's ?

      Wow - I would have thought that it would be another century before China is telling Russian assets what to do

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Thank you, Comrade

      China practices state-capitalism. We all are capitalists. To care for the social does not make you a communist.

      1. DoctorNine

        Re: Thank you, Comrade

        If you don't know where to put the decimal point, there is a large probability that your calculations will be off by orders of magnitude.

      2. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

        Re: Thank you, Comrade

        But to care for one ethnicity (Han) over the others that make up your polity (Uyghur, Tibetan...) is more characteristic of fascism than communism. There's now not a lot to distinguish the one party state in China from 1930's Germany, except China has thermonuclear weapons. They're just as touchy about criticism, internal or external.

  3. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge

    "How

    is he getting away with dissolving the senate and imposing martial law?"

    "Hes spent the last 2 years putting his people in the right places."

    Babylon 5 :point of no return

    1. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
      Gimp

      Re: "How

      And no Delenn or Sheridan in sight.

      Which makes a Clark-style ending unlikely.

      1. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

        Re: "How

        And a Julius Caesar ending more likely.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "How

          Let’s hope, and soon

          1. Casca Silver badge

            Re: "How

            Sadly we have Vance then

            1. Jedit Silver badge
              Headmaster

              "Sadly we have Vance then"

              Vance doesn't have the same ability to carry the vote. Like every fascist regime, MAGA is a cult of personality. They all proclaim themselves as a thousand year empire then collapse when their founder dies. It's why Republicans are talking about a third term, either doing an end run on the Constitution to make it happen or bemoaning that it can't.

              1. Cris E

                Re: "Sadly we have Vance then"

                Over the weekend Pam Bondi did come out and say that as much as they want Trump to hang around, she's convinced "he'll be done at the end of this term" and the constitutional issues would present "a heavy lift" which is a generous assessment of the Constitution. I think he's just so old and losing ground every day and there's no way he could press his case without undercutting his own cause by just sounding like late model Joe Biden/Ronald Reagan.

    2. DLYONS

      Re: "How

      Excellent choice of quote there. you win the internet for today :)

  4. BebopWeBop
    Trollface

    Thank you Comrade Trump

    The first collection of that kompromat has been arranged, and we promise we have not kept kopies.

    Yrs

    Vlad.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Thank you Comrade Trump

      It may be Friday and Beer O'Clock, but it's not Beer ->

    2. veti Silver badge

      Re: Thank you Comrade Trump

      There's no "kompromat". Let go of that fantasy.

      He doesn't need it. Putin is the richest man on the planet - he's been looting an entire country for a quarter of a century now - and that fact alone is quite enough to make Trump pathetically anxious to please him.

      1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Unhappy

        "fact alone is quite enough to make Trump pathetically anxious to please him."

        Putin's seems like an old belt-and-braces kind of guy to me.

        Sure he's confident he manipulate this pathetically eager to please man-child but it's always nice to have some nice solid evidence in case he starts twigging that his pal isn't quite the bosom buddy the FOCF thinks he is. Preferably something obviously illegal.

        And with the FOCF's looong history of shady businesses investment that could be literally anything.

        I do agree though, if you wonder what the old fool is going to do next ask yourself "What's the thing that will benefit Putin the most"?

      2. Jedit Silver badge
        Stop

        "There's no "kompromat". He doesn't need it."

        Trump's links to Russia go back to 1989, when he went to the Soviet Union as a bankrupt and came back with his pockets jingling to post adverts about how great Russia is. He wasn't pathetically eager to please a wealthy Putin then; he was bought and sold like the traitor he is.

        1. nautica Silver badge
          Headmaster

          "...he was bought and sold like the traitor he is."

          Quickly now...enter the word "quisling" into your device's searchbar...

  5. steviebuk Silver badge

    as we saw

    In his first term "I expect loyalty" thats why he's firing them all. Anyone that goes against him. He wants to be able to do what ever he wants and allow Russian to slowly take over. This is the way you do it.

    Orange man is a cunt.

    1. sarusa Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: as we saw

      This. Literally the only job responsibility any member of the Angry Toddler's government has is lovingly tonguing his bunghole. If you can't do that, you're out. It is certainly not doing your job competently, since he's installed the most incompetent people he can find. Bunghole tonguebath or GTFO.

      1. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: as we saw

        Its what he said to Comey when he had his 1 on 1 meeting with him. Which Comey wasn't expecting as there is supposed to be separation. "I expect loyalty". Luckily Comey in directly said no.

      2. Extreme Aged Parent

        Re: as we saw

        In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king!

    2. Rafael #872397 Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: as we saw

      "Always, we’re going to let go of people we don’t like, or people we don’t think can do the job, or people who may have loyalties to somebody else," Trump said on Air Force One, adding, "he noticed I have tiny unmanly hands".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: as we saw

        ... and hired a VP who wears eye liner. It looks good on him, don't you agree?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: as we saw

          He's so pretty despite his rotund butt that sticks out a bit (same as Elon). I can't wait to see him in a fitting red bikini, when he finally comes out of the crossdressing closet, legs closely shaved and all ... one can only hope ...

      2. UnknownUnknown Silver badge

        Re: as we saw

        Indortjnahekybhhat’s nogbwhatvyne law says on Cederal Dismissal. Hence his dismantling of IG’s and the agencies protecting federal employees as well as trying to remove protections for them.

        Trump doing what the British, Mexican’s, Kaiser, Japanese, Nazi’s, CCCP, North Koreans, VietCong couldn’t.

      3. PC Paul

        Re: as we saw

        "or people who may have loyalties to someone else"... other than the almighty Putin.

        God forbid they get someone loyal to America in one of those senior posts!

  6. Cruachan Silver badge

    I'm assuming that FOX News' leading expert on cyber security is about to be appointed, it certainly won't be anyone qualified for the job unless they are also a Trump loyalist.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      " it certainly won't be anyone qualified for the job unless they are also a Trump loyalist."

      These two things may be mutually exclusive

      1. EricM Silver badge

        Re: These two things may be mutually exclusive

        "FOX News" and "leading expert on", er..., basically anything... also

        Probably they'll send in another Cosplay-oriented character without any factual qualification to augment the many billionaires in the cabinet.

        Worked "just great" for Homeland Security.

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Trump loyalist is the sole qualification for the job. TFA describes Haugh as "non-partisan"; that's why he got fired.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Trump only wants yes men

        That's why he's so much worse this time than last time, because last time he had qualified people around him who were willing to tell him that stuff like putting tariffs on the whole world would be a disaster. There were plenty of reports about him wanting to do terrible things like shooting non violent protestors in DC in the legs but the people around him talked him down by telling him what he wanted to do was illegal or would make people hate him etc. This time he's doing all the illegal stuff they made him back off from before, which is why he is getting slapped down in court more often than any president ever has.

        It is hilarious seeing his people talk up his tariffs and how great they are, but if you look at their record prior to last summer not one of them had anything but negative things to say about tariffs. They know they have to be yes men cheerleaders to keep their job. Which is the reason he chooses wholly unqualified people for all his appointments (save a few exceptions like Marco Rubio, who will probably be one of the first tossed off the bus) since it makes them feel extra loyalty to him for giving them the job they never could have got on their own merits.

  7. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

    Breaking

    The USA

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Dear Donald....

    Dear Donald, you do realise you're setting-up the USA for another 9/11, don't you?

    Perhaps that's the plan? New 9/11. Declare martial law. Forget to ever un-declare it. Play golf with Putin until one or both of you drops dead.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Dear Donald....

      First rule of the dictators playbook - cripple the intelligence agencies, military and security apparatus you rely on by installing drunks/morons/unqualified tv personalities into all the command roles.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Dear Donald....

      Donal J. Trump IS 9/11 incarnate ... and COVID ... all in one, for the convenience of armageddon, doomsday, the apocalypse.

      He's the spawn of Putin (aka satan), the locust plague, frogs, gnats, the death of all firstborns.

      DJT is the Orange Offal Orifice Succubus in Cheese, demonic child of dancing roof-demons, a plague to humanity that causes epilepsy in children.

      Stock up on toilet paper, *NOW* ... before it is too late!!!!

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Dear Donald....

        "Stock up on toilet paper, *NOW* ... before it is too late!!!!"

        Are you an American who just found out most US toilet paper is made from Canadian softwood?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Dear Donald....

          Yeah, Canada's been abusing us with its softwood for ages, very unfair. It's like when it confiscated all inbound flight airplanes on 9/11, very selfish. We can't have that anymore.

          That's why we need huge import tariffs on Canadian goods, and bads, to stop them from shipping fentanyl toilet paper across the border, fentanyl electric power, fentanyl oil and gas, fentanyl auto parts, and fentanyl maple syrup.

          As we very smartly MAGA our way into the glorious past, yes, it will be hard in the beginning, we will use hardwood chips for toilet paper, hardwood and sandpaper for the tough bits, with our very large hands, and none of the wet wipes that clog our very modern 100-year-old sewage systems with combined overflows.

          Canada must be grateful to US for all of this, wear three-piece-suits, bend over in all directions, and obliterate its fentanyl trans woke first nations climate change woman equity nonsense, or else ... we'll do without its cushiony soft TP, like we did during COVID.

          Yes, we're going forward back to prohibition at once, prohibition of comfortable ass cleaning! (Hegseth won't mind)

          1. KarMann Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: Dear Donald....

            That's why we need huge import tariffs on Canadian goods, and bads, to stop them from shipping fentanyl toilet paper across the border, fentanyl electric power, fentanyl oil and gas, fentanyl auto parts, and fentanyl maple syrup.
            You left out the fentanyl fentanyl.

            1. Cris E

              Re: Dear Donald....

              That comes from Mexico.

          2. MuleD

            Re: Dear Donald....

            Don't forget those Fentanyl smuggling Canadian Geese. I have been suspicious of them for YEARS, with their beady little eyes and overly large bodies. Their ability to fly long distances in that suspicious vee formation. Have you ever noticed that the Right side of the vee is always longer than the left. Probably in a subtle nod to the MAGA right, letting them know their true allegiance. --Mule

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: fentanyl maple syrup

            Hey now! We don't need no steekin' drugs in maple syrup!

            It's perfectly addictive all on its own...

  9. Rol

    Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

    I hope you Americans are now rethinking the God given mission to impose your flavour of democracy on the rest of the world?

    It is demonstrably broken. Hopefully, for your sakes and ours, not beyond repair.

    Perhaps the democrats could launch a total rethink of how something so fragile, yet so fundamental to a prosperous and fair world could be protected. It could be the one thing they take into the next election, if there is ever to be one, and present it to the voting public that this is what we will do once elected. Never again will an enemy of democracy ever be allowed to manoeuvre their man into power where they can then start dismantling the very core of what our once great nation stood for.

    Unfortunately, for now, it looks like room for a hammer and sickle might just be found on the Stars and Stripes. Let's just hope it will eventually wash out.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

      >I hope you Americans are now rethinking the God given mission to impose your flavour of democracy on the rest of the world?

      Now it's Canada's turn to rule. Your politicians will have to pretend to speak French and you will all play hockey.

      1. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
        Unhappy

        Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

        But, but, but...

        I don't like maple syrup!

        You keep your syrup and we promise not to impose Vegemite on you!

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

          Canada can't ally with Australia. Cobra chickens + emus would wipe out humanity

          1. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

            Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

            And beavers X platypus -> venomous amphibious egg-laying rodents that can cut down trees. Yes! Dominion over the entire Pacific is at hand!

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

          Hmmmmm! Vegemite + maple-syrup ... an orgasm for the taste buds!

          1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

            Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

            But still not a patch on Marmite - original and best!

            1. UnknownUnknown Silver badge

              Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

              <Retching Sounds> … for both.

              1. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

                Re: Let's make American democracy a little more robust next time around. Please!!!

                A year ago, I would have agreed with you. All of a sudden, I find I really love Marmite. Weird.

  10. nautica Silver badge
    Big Brother

    "When a clown moves into the palace, he doesn’t become the king; instead the palace becomes a circus."--Turkish proverb

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Apparently a new British proverb.

      (Didn't downvote...)

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        That was a very interesting link. Thank you for that.

    2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
      Unhappy

      "instead the palace becomes a circus."

      Given the origins of the Johnson clown clan exceptionally appropriate

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: "instead the palace becomes a circus."

        Likewise John Major, the boy who ran away from the circus to become a politician and Prime Minister ;-)

    3. nautica Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Posterity--and due credit--must be served...

      Here's how that quotation should be stated, anywhere and everywhere [many thanks for bringing this to the attention of all of us, Dan 55]--

      "When a clown moves into the palace, he doesn’t become the king; instead the palace becomes a circus."--Elizabeth Bangs

      (With deepest and most sincere apologies to Elizabeth Bangs)

      Great job, Elizabeth...

  11. rgjnk Silver badge
    Alert

    What did they really expect?

    Americans built a system of checks & balances that turned out to be easily subverted, and mostly relied on trust that a head of state with a lot of the powers of an old style absolute monarch wouldn't do bad things.

    Turns out if you build a naive system with insufficient controls that sooner or later people will take advantage of it.

    And given what we've seen as themes in American literature & cinema over many many years not only did they already understand exactly what could happen to their Government, but they also understand it has scope to get much much worse.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: What did they really expect?

      It was a typo that has taken 200 years to be corrected. The correct meaning is:

      "Americans built a system of cheques & ..."

      1. snowpages

        Re: What did they really expect?

        That's probably why they spell "cheque" as "check". Saves any confusion :)

    2. veti Silver badge

      Re: What did they really expect?

      The exploit (bug) isn't in the constitution, but in democracy: that a single charismatic leader can always subvert it. Same thing happened in Germany in the 1930s, and in India in the 2000s, and their constitutions were very different.

      The exploit is, if one person has enough popular support - doesn't have to be overwhelming, doesn't even have to be a majority, just highly motivated - then the people who are supposed to enforce the checks on their power won't dare to do it. That's what happened in all three of those cases. Makes no difference who those people are, or what specific form the checks take, the principle is the same.

      1. Graham Cobb

        Re: What did they really expect?

        Except that, in this case, Trump really isn't that charismatic.

        In the past, it has needed the leader to be charismatic, but the US experiment - with a two-party system that can't be broken, an electoral college system that means only a tiny minority of states count for anything, and a head-of-state with much too much power - has failed to cope with the destruction of serious journalism and the dominance of social media populists.

        I hope someone is taking notes for the period of reconstruction after the global structure from the last 100 years collapses and is eventually rebuilt (after 1000 years of a new Reich?).

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: What did they really expect?

          Yes, I never understood how people were saying that Trump is charismatic. He seems like the worst kind of golf club bore and he doesn’t even drink. Between the Houthis, Iranians, North Koreans and any country that trades with the US, you might think someone might have come up with a more permanent solution to “White House Apprentice, Season 2”.

          1. RockBurner

            Re: What did they really expect?

            ".. and he doesn’t even drink.."

            Wait, what??

            You mean he's actually SOBER when he drools out the gibberish that has littered every public appearance he's made for the past 10 years??

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: What did they really expect?

              Fentanyl ?

        2. Xalran Silver badge

          Re: What did they really expect?

          Initially it wasn't a two-party system... and It wasn't meant to be...

          With 4 or 5 contenders against him Nero (aka the Orange Clown) probably wouldn't have been elected a second time.

      2. kmorwath

        Re: What did they really expect?

        It doesn't need a charismatic leader. It jus needs enough people ready to bent and serve one - usually in their own interestes, or at least is what they think.

        Check and balances works well against one person or a few ones (see Nixon). They do not work if they can take over the Parliament, the higher courts, and nobody really stands - inculding the citizen who have voted the crooks in the beginning.

        1. Cruachan Silver badge

          Re: What did they really expect?

          "It doesn't need a charismatic leader. It jus needs enough people ready to bent and serve one - usually in their own interestes, or at least is what they think."

          That's what is happening, if congress and the senate actually had a spine he wouldn't be getting away with it. Mitch McConnell seems to have belatedly realised what a monster he's created but it might be too late. Likewise the Roberts Supreme Court.

      3. Peter2 Silver badge

        Re: What did they really expect?

        The exploit is, if one person has enough popular support - doesn't have to be overwhelming, doesn't even have to be a majority, just highly motivated - then the people who are supposed to enforce the checks on their power won't dare to do it. That's what happened in all three of those cases. Makes no difference who those people are, or what specific form the checks take, the principle is the same.

        It matters if the check on their power is not giving them the power in the first place.

        Trump couldn't fire military officers in the UK because they answer to the King, not to the PM. Hence if he told the King "I want you to fire those officers because they aren't loyal to me" then he'd find that he'd be told "Yes, that's how it's supposed to work because they are sworn to the King, not the PM" and there would be nothing that he could do about it.

        That's what an effective safeguard looks like, which is absent in the US system because they copied our government with the difference being that you elect a king. Which came about because most of the revolutionaries in the US knew how unstable democracies without a monarchy are, and wanted to solve the problem by having an elected king. Which obviously hasn't worked out the way that they wanted; it's been the source of the problem.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: What did they really expect?

          I think the chain of appointment goes up to the government. The government can reduce force i.e. fire people, doubtless in a variety of ways, and they can equally appoint patsies into top positions.

          The only safeguard is that Chuckie Wingnut can fire the government and appoint another. The armed forces clearly do not report to the deposed government.

          Perhaps Chuckie can directly call on the armed forces to depose a government that doesn't want to go quietly into the night.

          "I do solemnly swear ... that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice"

          The President can be a domestic enemy, and he could issue orders or commit acts against the UCMJ.

          I'm sure there have been more than a few discussions amongst the officer class about what line he has to cross before the military can, or is obligated to, act. The military is always the last backstop against failure of civilian government.

          1. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

            Re: What did they really expect?

            A USAF officer was fired when no-one in the chain of command above him could answer the question: "How do I know that the missile launch order I just received came from a sane President?"

        2. ChrisBedford

          Re: What did they really expect?

          "absent in the US system because they copied our government with the difference being that you elect a king"

          Indeed. Those naive Founding Fathers probably thought that by replacing the House of Lords with an Senate they were putting enough of a "check and balance" in place, but then they completely f^&*(ed up by arbitrarily allocating two senators per State irrespective of population - clearly a massively UNbalanced system

          1. YetAnotherLocksmith

            Re: What did they really expect?

            In their defence, it lasted long beyond their lifetimes, and became the most powerful nation in the world for a good while.

            They just had no idea that social media would come along like this - though perhaps they should have, given how much influence Alexander Hamilton had with just a few hundred letters! Once those "letters" could be posted free from anywhere in the world, arrive in milliseconds, and be generated by a team of enemies, in full colour, 24/7... And presented to millions! Oh, and without any return address to tip off the reader that the letter was actually written by an enemy of the state...

            And so, here we are. Drones and memes.

            1. Arthur Daily

              Re: What did they really expect?

              On hold until a reasonable press release - is released.

              But lets look at the basics. We are often told 'Generals' who are supposed to be safe hands - are really political climber sorts. If you looks at recent Judges decisions, 'Safe Hands' is becoming toxic, but only because clear conflicts of interest of family or LLC's are rarely fully disclosed. So a Lt may be a better choice. Pretty sure Trump's 'near miss' and NSA holding up the blame allocation process is another factor. One does not know if free and fair elections fall's under NSA responsibilities, but adding 4? million illegal SSN's and a lot voting sure looks shady. Did Trump ask 'Tell me what you know' and got back static? If the NSA bigwigs are conflicted, for Biden directives, and wont spill the beans, it is a fair cop that they have to go.

  12. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Donald Jr

    I'm waiting for him to be put in charge of something - he's of course not qualified for anything but being Donald Jr

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Donald Jr

      I expect he'll be appointed governor of Orangeland (formerly Greenland). He's practiced parting his buttcheeks for quite some time now (and human-centipede salad tossing) so he'll be good and ready when the time comes ...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Donald Jr

        " He's practiced parting his buttcheeks for quite some time now (and human-centipede salad tossing) so he'll be good and ready when the time comes ..."

        It seems you have a Freudian penchant for some unusual practices.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Donald Jr

          Commonly unusual yes, but SOP in loyalist bungholocracies. Caliper-toting-Loomer's boundless enjoyment for example, as zealous comptroller of fleshy bentover asscracks, feels grindingly palpable in today's oval orifice!

  13. xyz Silver badge

    Trump...

    Liz Truss in drag.

    1. veti Silver badge

      Re: Trump...

      If only.

      If Trump had the charisma of Liz Truss, we wouldn't be in this position.

      1. HuBo Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: Trump...

        Woho! Hold your high horses a bit there stark naked chocolate Lady Godiva! As the Magnificent Incubus' Offal Orifice in Fake Orange Cosplay Cheese has abumindantely⁰ made clear over and over again, it's not his fault, at all, period, again!

        And do we need reminding you, again, that there were very fine people on both sides, that's right. Both the side of the DOGE brownshirt nazi wankers with unfortunate sofa mishaps shoved deeply up their butts, and the side of the best anti-vax madministration ever that gives you free measles and avian flu just by looking at it or shaking Hegseth's hand, and also the side of intelligent design creationist tea party crossdressers who live with dinosaurs and are not witches, and the side of spawn-of-Satan™ Vladimir rectum Putin to whom we ALL owe a huge debt of gratitude, and fashionable three-piece-suits, for being such a wonderful role-model of economic success, fairplay, and open-mindedness -- we couldn't have done it without you Vlad, and chihuahuas, again!

        All this agitated mess of folks who don't want to make millions right now as we regress the stock market to where it was 4 years ago, erasing the dumb stuff that the previous heretics have done, as maybe they wait for us to go forward farther into the past to also erase Obama and Clinton, to 1993 then, that takes just one word to tell you who's fault it is: the_very_scary_illegal_trans_woke_tunnel-burrowed_fentanyl_climate-changing_pet_dog-and-cat_voodoo_BBQ_migrant_cybersecurity_tourist_academics_of_the_Joe_Biden_sleepy_theoretical_conspiracy_cabal_and_women's_shower_sanctuary_abstraction,_constantly_changing_sex_to_pole-vault_the_border_wall,_and_also_Greta_Thunberg, again!

        There. I hope bright antiworlds now float over your head, as they do ours, again!

        ⁰⁻abumindantely: noun; what happens when abumdantly meets abuminately

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's like the Stalin Purges of the 1930's

    but without the empathy.

    1. Cynical Pie

      Re: It's like the Stalin Purges of the 1930's

      or the competence...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It's like the Stalin Purges of the 1930's

      El Salvador is warmer in the spring.

  15. nautica Silver badge
    Big Brother

    Eric Hoffer had MISTER Trump--and his brain-dead followers--figured out a very long time ago...

    “Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life.”

    “Rudeness is the weak man’s imitation of strength.”

    “Should Americans begin to hate foreigners wholeheartedly, it will be an indication that they have lost confidence in their own way of life.”

    “The hardest thing to cope with is not selfishness or vanity or deceitfulness, but sheer stupidity.”

    “You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.”

    “An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head.”

    “For many people, an excuse is better than an achievement because an achievement, no matter how great, leaves you having to prove yourself again in the future; but an excuse can last for life."

    ...And you'd better take very serious note of this one--

    “Never forget that one of the most gifted, best educated nations in the world, of its own free will, surrendered its fate into the hands of a maniac."

    1. Mitoo Bobsworth Silver badge

      Re: Eric Hoffer had MISTER Trump--and his brain-dead followers--figured out a very long time ago...

      I increasingly entertain the idea that Science theorises about intelligent beings on other planets mainly because they've given up looking on Earth in general, and the USA in particular.

      1. nautica Silver badge
        Boffin

        And, as Calvin said to Hobbes...

        “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” -– Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes" ©1989 Bill Watterson)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Eric Hoffer had MISTER Trump--and his brain-dead followers--figured out a very long time ago...

      Yeah, there sure is a sense of déjà vu in this 2ⁿᵈ coming of the Incubus Orange ... It's better prepared this time 'round, but I'm not 100% that the counter-prep has been commensurate. Some good amount of thinking should probably be focused on that (followed by action).

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Eric Hoffer had MISTER Trump--and his brain-dead followers--figured out a very long time ago...

      All true except: "“For many people, an excuse is better than an achievement because an achievement, no matter how great, leaves you having to prove yourself again in the future; but an excuse can last for life."

      It's just laziness, achieving something great is very hard work and usually well outside the comfort zone.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It’s going to be very bad guys

    Leave if you can.

    Or, shelter in place.

  17. CuberHubs

    Nonpartisan expert

    "But fired General Haugh, a nonpartisan national security expert, at the advice of a self-described 'pro-White nationalist.'"

    The orange guy is the only expert the US needs. The most stable genius. That a white nationalist loon made the recommendation is only because those are the only people who have access.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Nonpartisan expert

      "But fired General Haugh, a nonpartisan national security expert, at the advice of a self-described 'pro-White nationalist."

      1. Who says he is non-partisan and what is their affiliation or interest?

      2. Would it be ok if they were a pro-Black nationalist?

      3. True information is true regardless of source.

      PS I don't care what colour people are and they should be proud of who they are and their culture as long as they are not trying to force me to adopt it.

  18. nautica Silver badge
    Holmes

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

    “No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

    ― H.L. Mencken...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      And Tacitus (quoted in Year 1 (with Mencken) and Year 2 of Incubus Orange I). Something about senators "exalted by wealth and honors ... each in proportion to his readiness for servitude" precipitating the "descent from republic to dictatorship".

      What will it take to wake up from this groundhog day nightmare?!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "What will it take to wake up from this groundhog day nightmare?!"

        It takes the impossible. It takes the people to stop watching TV, to take an interest, to research and validate what they are told, discuss it and interrogate the leaders, Then villify and out any media pushing self-interests or one sided narratives. Alas the "people" prefer Love Island and the easy distractions presented to them so they will remain in the Matrix and be abused. Their ire or virtue directed at whatever the manipulators desire.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      100% true. I however, think this "moron" is better than the last moron. But I prefer the simpler; "Every nation gets the government it deserves."

      1. nautica Silver badge
        Happy

        "Just be glad you're not getting all the government you're paying for."--Will Rogers

  19. steviebuk Silver badge

    Putin

    is please with puppet orange tango man.

  20. ChrisBedford

    "He denied Loomer had anything to do with it."

    So, she definitely did have everything to do with it then.

  21. ZorgonsRevenge

    Everyone gets upset when they "Islamophobe" and "White nationalist" but what do those terms really mean?

    Islam is not only a religion but also a political movement, so to be against it is entirely legitimate. When leftists scream "Tory scum!" do they get vilified in the same way?

    Additionally the term "White nationalist" is no more offensive than saying BLM.. it's in group preferences, that every other race indulges in...so...what?

    1. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

      All religions aspire to be a political movement, to the extent that they seek to have their adherents confirm to an ideal of behaviour, be it socially or economically, revolutionary or conservative. So what are you saying? It's ok to judge people on their choice of religion, in general or Islam in particular? I disagree.

      There is no more moral equivalence to the political use of race between BLM and white nationalism than there is of socialism between, say, a card-carrying union member and Josef Stalin.

      You bring nothing but false equivalences and straw-man arguments. Get serious.

    2. Doctor Tarr

      Why are you calling out Islam as being a political movement? Religions want to influence policy just as the Christian Nationalists do with banning reproductive health and books which they see as against their faith.

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The Blob

    Trump may turn out to be bad or good on the whole, I don't know yet and nor does anyone else.

    But ... to think that the institutions of government are non-political and simply supporting the elected leaders is an extreme of naivety. Recently, they have become so partisan and so corrupt that no elected president can do anything than what the blob wants without first purging. In fact it was clear that the Democrats had become as one with the blob. The corruption was enormous and at the level where people were doing the exact opposite of what was in the interest of the American people because it provided them the most kick backs. The had sold their souls figuratively speaking, maybe literally.

  23. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
    FAIL

    Gonna be a LONG four years.

    Our idiot president is taking advice from an influencer whose self declared attributes are "big boobs and an Ashkenazi brain". No sign of the latter at this time. Of course, he's only paying attention to the former...

    It was a nice economy while it lasted.

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