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Rival HR technology unicorns are at each other's throats in a courtroom brawl over alleged corporate espionage. The People Center, also known as Rippling, on Monday sued rival workforce management firm Deel for alleged theft of trade secrets and corporate espionage. Both companies are Delaware corporations operating out of …

  1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

    Sounds like handbags at 15 paces to me!

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyORbG3I5Ys

  2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Slack logs of D.S.'s activity establish that he secretly viewed and downloaded information "

    For some values of secretly.

  3. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    A.V.A.

    • "In total, Slack logs of D.S.'s activity establish that he secretly viewed and downloaded information from Rippling Slack channels dedicated to prospective clients over 1,300 times between November 2024 and March 2025"

    I'm curious as to how Slack's client software could determine whether or not a Slack user was surrounded by people, was by themselves, and/or intended to use Slack "secretly". (Hint: it can't.)

    • Deel spokesperson: "We deny all legal wrongdoing and look forward to asserting our counterclaims."

    I see the Deel spokesperson does not deny illegal wrongdoing.

    This all looks like a case of asshole-versus-asshole.

    1. abend0c4 Silver badge

      Re: A.V.A.

      asshole-versus-asshole

      I'm absolutely shocked to find the noble record of the HR profession sullied by these allegations of furtiveness and self-interest.

      1. STOP_FORTH Silver badge

        Re: A.V.A.

        Arrest all the usual suspects!

        1. Sgt_Oddball

          Re: A.V.A.

          What? Even Keyser Söze?

          1. STOP_FORTH Silver badge

            Re: A.V.A.

            Wrong fillum!

    2. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: A.V.A.

      asshole-versus-asshole.

      YO!

  4. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Coat

    D S resides in Ireland and is in contempt of their High Court?

    I suspect DS might soon find himself incarcerated and in deep shit.

    I don't think the US Rent-a-Judge franchise is available in the Emerald Isle.

    Cunning plans aside this whole nonsense would make decent pitch for a new Blackadder series.

    The DS character could be portrayed as a more incompetent version of Johnny English.

    The whole #d-defectors bit is pure Baldrick.

    HR Unicorns? They would be fairly safe from capture as no sentient creature would venture within a city block of them let alone the necessary virgin which in any case is nowadays probably rarer.

  5. lglethal Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Wow - That is one dumb ass

    Doing a bunk from a court appointed solicitor is just Wow levels of stupid.

    I mean barricading yourself in the bathroom and deleting your phone is stupid, especially after being warned that this was a criminal offence. You're basically asking to have your butt thrown in jail. It's holding your hand up and saying "I'm Guilty, your Honour!"

    But actually fleeing the scene. Wow that's just a whole other level of stupid. I mean, clearly they know where you live! Where are you going to go?

    I guess Stupidtiy knows no bounds...

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Depends on Irish law

      If they needed his phone to prove his crime and now don't have it would that mean that they can only charge him with destruction of evidence / failure to obey a lawful order? Or can the court assume that there was compromising info on his phone as 'proven' by him going to such lengths to avoid complying with the order?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Wow - That is one dumb ass

      https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/03/19/i-had-a-breakdown-dublin-office-worker-accused-of-passing-trade-secrets-to-rival-firm-has-destroyed-phone-court-hears/

      He's not been well. As to the contempt of court, the judge has offered that if he owns up to what was on the phone, then he might not be held in contempt.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If the letter was sent to two executives and lawyers...

    ... how the alleged spy came to know about the "secret" channel?

    1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: If the letter was sent to two executives and lawyers...

      That's the whole basis of the allegations, that somone connected to the competitor's execs and/or lawyers passed the info on to their spy.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: If the letter was sent to two executives and lawyers...

        Ah, it was sent to the other company.... but about a channel private to Rippling - so it could be accessed only from an insider? (I never used Slack so I don't know how it works) In some jurisdiction such a letter would amount to a blackmail attempt, anyway.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If the letter was sent to two executives and lawyers...

      Also not a slack user, do not know, but does slack have a "list all channels" option?

  7. Howard Sway

    locked himself in a bathroom

    Was there a bath in this so-called bathroom? Then maybe he can beat the charges on a technicality by denying hiding in one, even if he does have to admit hiding in a toilet instead.

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: locked himself in a bathroom

      He might even get time off in loo.

      1. Ace2 Silver badge

        Re: locked himself in a bathroom

        Upvoted but with a groan

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Re: locked himself in a bathroom

      He should have fled with the phone and then taken a sightseeing sea trip...

      "The court has heard that Mrs Vardy's agent, Caroline Watt, lost her phone in the North Sea after it was hit by a wave before Mrs Rooney's team could see WhatsApp messages that could potentially help her case."

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61372222

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Deel or no Deel.

  9. goblinski Silver badge

    Love honeypots.

    I guess the email to Deel was not exactly "We have incriminating data and it sits in the #d-defectors channel" ?

  10. IGotOut Silver badge

    This sums up the companies nicely.

    "Both companies are Delaware corporations operating out of San Francisco, "

    Enough said.

    1. PRR Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: This sums up the companies nicely.

      > "Both companies are Delaware corporations operating out of San Francisco,"

      1) The coffeehouses are very much better in SF. Whiskey too (Delaware had Blue Laws not long ago, or still?) Better choice of sex workers, so I hear.

      2) Corporation and tax laws are very much better in Delaware. Delaware has a business court system of real experts who wrap complex cases by lunch. Around 1900 NJ was poaching corporations from NY, but Gov Woodrow Wilson put a stop to that. Then Delaware reformed incorporation from a legislative act to a simple form and fee. "More than 50% of all U.S. publicly traded companies and 63% of the Fortune 500 are incorporated in Delaware."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Delaware#Incorporation_in_Delaware

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