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Three companies in the US are teaming up to address the burgeoning energy needs of datacenters by using coal mine methane piped to on-site fuel cells at locations that are already hotspots for building bit barns. Diversified Energy, FuelCell Energy, and TESIAC, an investment biz focused on infrastructure, are forming a …

  1. UnknownUnknown

    It’s not as bad as what environment rapers wanted to do to old coal seams in Warwickshire, UK. Fortunately thrown out as grotesque.

    Underground Coal Gasification - yes it’s a thing !!!

    The process involves drilling deep into the ground and setting fire to the coal and extracting the resultant gas.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-23693775.amp

    1. UnknownUnknown

      Thanks for the down-vote right wing Troll- bot I have acquired.

      Either that or you are the ghost of David Koch.

      1. David Hicklin Silver badge

        I did not downvote you but they like me are probably confused how burning the coal creates usable gas - unless there is some weird chemical concoction taking place when igniting coal in what I assume will be an oxygen deprived environment

        They have also probably seen the documentaries on abandoned towns (usually America) where underground coal seams have caught fire.

        1. blackcat Silver badge

          The heat boils off the volatile compounds from the coal. You can do the same with wood and even old tyres. With very little oxygen you get all sorts of wonderful hydrocarbon concoctions. This was the main source of gas for many decades prior to the widespread adoption of natural gas. 'Town gas' was mostly hydrogen with enough carbon monoxide to make it really rather dangerous.

          If you want to see some serious environmental harm watch this video!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9w6pXmU8zY

          As for setting fire to coal seams... just look at Centralia!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia%2C_Pennsylvania

        2. UnknownUnknown

          The ‘burn area’ was adjacent to Draycote Reservoir…..

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Reforming

    AFAIK, reforming converts methane (+ water) into hydrogen and carbon monoxide. The CO is then reacted with more water to make extra hydrogen plus carbon dioxide. So if you start with a given amount of methane you end up with the same amount of carbon dioxide whether you burn it or reform it. Any "improvement" is related to the efficiency of getting the energy in/out of these processes (burning methane vs reforming it and using the hydrogen). I guess it must be better because there's more opportunity for smoke and mirrors....

  3. Dr Dan Holdsworth
    Boffin

    Sell the waste heat

    Any operation like this results in lots of waste heat. Heat at about 70 C is just right for being piped into district heating systems (the insulated polypipe needed for such schemes lasts a really long time as long as the input heat is below 80 C), and as such you can reclaim some of the cost of the bitbarn power by selling the waste heat at a discounted rate to suburban householders.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Sell the waste heat

      Heating West Virginia to 80c all summer might be a solution. There are many proponents of sterilization of the area around Washington

  4. timrowledge

    Strange how increasing the electricity supply for EVs is completely impossible but doing so for AI is no problem

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