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SpaceX is set to have another go at launching its monster Starship rocket today after the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) gave the venture the green light. The FAA has issued a license modification authorizing the test flight, which is scheduled to launch on March 3 from 2330 UTC. One of the license modifications …

  1. 45RPM Silver badge

    The FAA are hardly likely to turn him down now are they? The writing is on the wall, and the writing says “The Criminals are in charge. Cross us and we’ll leave a horse’s head in your bed”

    1. Lusty

      Now now, the sooner this testing is done the sooner we can pack him and his orange pet off to Mars.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge

        It doesn't even need to be to Mars, the upper atmosphere is good enough for me. I believe that can already be done.

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          " the upper atmosphere is good enough for me."

          Or a holiday in the Turks and Caicos? Mauritius? Darwin?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Oi, as a Darwin resident (OK, actually Humpty Doo but near enough), what have we done to deserve this?

            1. MachDiamond Silver badge

              "what have we done to deserve this?"

              Posted as an AC. Have a nice day.

        2. that one in the corner Silver badge

          The upper atmosphere? Don't you understand the danger that represents? Oh, sure, dense parts will burn up as they descend towards the ground, but anything that can, well, flutter as it drops is likely to land safely.

          If you haven't realised what this means, how The True Controller of The Satsuma will be left alive to terrorise the land, as we were warned:

          "and then it began to creep like a slimy red animal across the land, covering field and ditch and tree and hedgerow with living scarlet[1] feelers, crawling, crawling!"

          [1] as it unlatches from its host, all the colour it injected into the bulk will be drawn back inside itself, darkening its hue.

    2. Someone Else Silver badge

      And this surprises you how?

    3. Paul Herber Silver badge

      "horse’s head"

      Even Starship can't get to that nebula yet!

    4. Roj Blake Silver badge

      "Nice Federal Aviation Administration you've got here, it would be a shame if the place was trashed by DOGE."

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Mushroom

        What are the chances of Starship or booster falling on Mar-a-lago, when a certain avid golfer is in residence?

        And if it did happen, would it be an accident?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          i'd call it a blessing and convert to religion

        2. Peter2

          Very little chance while Trump is doing what Musk is told to do by Putin.

          If he stops, or Musk gets designated Vice President then the chances that bookies would refuse to give odds.

          1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
            Coat

            What about the odds on the likelihood of an occurrence like falling out of a window in a building in Moscow, at the Trump Tower in 5th Avenue?

          2. collinsl Silver badge

            Musk can never be VP as the Constitution lists the rules as the same as the President - notably for Musk he's not a natural-born US Citizen so fails rule #1

            This is so obviously unconstitutional that even the current Supreme Court would be forced to rule with any challenge to Musk being appointed, so I will assume they won't bother trying.

            That's for as long as the Constitution lasts, of course.

    5. Gary Stewart Silver badge

      I thought the FAA was being a little nit-picky on the last couple of launches however the end of the last launch attempt did give me pause. A proper balance is needed but I don't think the current administration has the slightest idea of what balance means.

      1. ecofeco Silver badge

        Nit picky?

        Safety rules, regulations and laws are written in blood and deaths.

        Surely you would not want to add yours and your loved ones to that list?

        1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

          That's not what they were being nit-picky about. It was mostly environmental (still important, especially in that area), and making sure that problems with previous launches, neither of which posed any danger to life or limb were properly addressed.

        2. Geoff Campbell Silver badge
          Mushroom

          Oh no!

          Won't somebody please think of the children!

          GJC

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        "I thought the FAA was being a little nit-picky on the last couple of launches however the end of the last launch attempt did give me pause."

        The FAA is mainly concerned with risk to uninvolved entities. If Elon wants to crash stuff into the sea, that's fine if it isn't likely to kill or cause property damage. Impacting aircraft routes is an issue since that impacts many other people.

    6. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      The delay in destroying the FAA does not depend on whether or not they issue SpaceX a license. SpaceX have already launched three times without a valid license. They got one slapped wrist for SN8 and a fine that will never be collected for the two Falcon launches. Next time I doubt there will be anyone to left issue a fine.

      Musk has adopted Curtis Yarvin's plan for the future. There will be no more government, only corporations with unlimited power. Any functions of government that matter to corporations will be handled by corporations directly. Corporations currently benefit from government air traffic control. The last of the FAA will be de-funded when corporations say they can do business perfectly well without them.

      The IFT8 license might possibly be legit because it makes no difference to Musk one way or the other. Having it ready at this time may well have caused delays to licenses for ULA, RocketLab, Stoke, Firefly, etc because of where limited resources are deployed.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        "SpaceX have already launched three times without a valid license."

        That could implicate the government if an accident causes injury, death or property damage. Since Starship is part of a development contract to land astronauts on the moon, there's more of a reason for the government to enforce laws and regulations regarding Elon's reckless behavior.

        1. Ken Y-N
          Mushroom

          Too late

          there's more of a reason for the government to enforce laws and regulations regarding Elon's reckless behavior

          The Supreme Court has already ruled that the (shadow) president cannot be held guilty for crimes commited in office.

    7. StudeJeff

      That was the previous administration, that's why Biden issued all those pardons.

  2. imanidiot Silver badge

    "Flying to the Turks and Caicos tonight? Good luck"

    It's not just the Turks and Caicos. Basically any flight to or from any island in the Caribbean, Caymans, Antilles and Windward Isles will have problems if the flight goes Kaboom again. All great circle routes crossing the Atlantic lead north through the potential debris zone, as do basically all flights to the US unless they take a very south westerly detour over the Gulf of Mexico towards Texas before heading north.

  3. StudeJeff

    Amazing times

    Last June I was in Florida and watched a Crew Dragon take off for the ISS. It was night and from where I was standing on the banks of the Banana River I could see the ship take off, the stages separate, and then the booster land.

    It was incredible.

    I look forward to seeing a Starship doing the same thing one of these years. Both ships are magnificent accomplishments, unlike anything any government has accomplished.

    We live in amazing times.

    1. John Robson Silver badge

      Re: Amazing times

      "Both ships are magnificent accomplishments, unlike anything any government has accomplished."

      Apollo was pretty magnificent... it just got canned too early.

    2. Ian Johnston Silver badge

      Re: Amazing times

      Both ships are magnificent accomplishments, unlike anything any government has accomplished.

      Remind me who, exactly, paid for the launch you saw? Anyway the Space Shuttle was miles cooler than anything SpaceX has done.

    3. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Amazing times

      As far as I know Saturn V just went reliably from A to B. It never did the fireworks, admittedly.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Amazing times

        "As far as I know Saturn V just went reliably from A to B. It never did the fireworks, admittedly."

        It also worked on the first go. Took astronauts, their gear and an EV to the moon in one rocket.

        1. imanidiot Silver badge

          Re: Amazing times

          "on the first go", if you don't count the countless engines and test articles that went kaboom before they even assembled the first full Saturn V stack, or the several times that the vehicle came within a blonde whisker from disaster (pogo oscillations, a lightning strike, an oxygen tank exploding, to name but a few)

    4. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Amazing times

      Saturn V was staggering, stupendous, mind-blowing.

      2900 tonnes standing on a plume of hot gas, being balanced and steered by that gas, the mass diminishing as the thing accelerates 120 tonne payload to orbital velocity.

      Those thousands of tonnes of fuel being delivered to the motors at 15 tonnes per second by 55,000 BHP fuel pumps. There are lots of amazing facts like these about Saturn V which was developed in just four years during the 1960s by engineers using slide rules and delivered all its crewed missions to orbit without failure. Despite even being struck by lightning.

    5. rcxb Silver badge

      Re: Amazing times

      Both ships are magnificent accomplishments, unlike anything any government has accomplished.

      NASA doesn't build ships. They merely put out contracts for private companies to build them:

      https://apollo11space.com/meet-the-makers-the-private-contractors-that-powered-apollo/

      https://www.spaceline.org/united-states-manned-space-flight/space-shuttle-program-history/

  4. frankvw Bronze badge
    FAIL

    Harmonic what?

    SpaceX reckoned the premature end to the previous test was down to "harmonic response"

    Hmm. That sounds suspiciously like a page from the BOFH Excuse Calendar. Today's excuse: "Harmonic response". Yep, I can't see anything wrong with that one...

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I don't approve

    of the mass pollution for one mans greed. that goes for bozo too.

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