Nearly 10 years after Data and Goliath, Bruce Schneier says: Privacy’s still screwed It has been nearly a decade since famed cryptographer and privacy expert Bruce Schneier released the book Data and Goliath: The Hidden Battles to Collect Your Data and Control Your World - an examination of how government agencies and tech giants exploit personal data. Today, his predictions feel eerily accurate. At stake, he …
The problem there is that the marketing department is chock full of people who are paid professionals, trained in the art of the snow job, pulling the wool other every sensory organ and polishing turds. All of which can be as easily turned against the CFO scrutinising at the products marketing like to use as it can the buyers of the products their company sells.
Agreed. It would take a skeptic at board level who's prepared to ask questions like "I just bought one of our cars and now I'm seeing lots of adverts for it which are obviously irrelevant. Can you explain to me why you think this isn't a waste of the advertising budget which we give you?".
* Or any other expensive and hence rarely purchased product.
The problem, sir, is that we get a tremendous amount of data about potential customers of our products. Before you bought one, you showed interest in it, so you would have been a great person to advertise to*. But we don't get everything there is to know in real time. If we had access to everyone's purchasing records, we could advertise even more efficiently. We would like you to authorize this extra funding for access to a database of payment information** so we can prevent that little bit of waste. But know that, even though we do occasionally show advertisements to people who have already bought, this is all needed to focus on the ones who are most likely to buy.
* Probably advertising to someone who already likes the product isn't the most helpful advertisement as compared to people who don't know that they would like it, but they can say it.
** Not actually all of people's payment data, but they can always ask for more funding and access later. Once they get the funding, they have to buy the data so it shows up in the budget, but the rest of the funding, explained as needing to use that data, can go to bonuses. Improving advertising targeting can be left for later or never. Since they did pay for the data, companies that specialize in getting it come to the conclusion that there is a market for this data, so they collect more.
If we had access to everyone's purchasing records, we could advertise even more efficiently.
To which the skeptic at board level replies "but the car took 12 weeks to be built from me putting in my order. What do you mean you need access to all my purchasing data. You already have access to our car orders database. The problem is that you have handed over our advertising budget to a third party that doesn't care if the customer buys a car or not as they already have our money."
You don't understand, sir. Production doesn't pre-build the custom cars because, if you decide not to buy, that would be wasted. Take the delay up with them. For our part, the payment information is to find people who have recently bought any car, not just our cars. That's why we need to add that to our advertising model and why we can't get the information from our purchase records system, though now you mention it, we will now send copies of our internal orders system to our advertising partners*. But you can help us improve efficiency even more. Sign here.
* Those who bid highest for it, anyway.
I suspect that Bruce Schneier is correct about a lot of this. Big corp will collect our data, collate and sell it to whomsoever they can for the foreseeable future. Neither can I see the Trump administration proposing strict laws to curb access to personal data while DOGE is trying to get that very same access in Treasury systems.
Big Brother icon for obvious reasons.
PS - I worked at BT when Schneier was hired by a manager in the Security team. When eventually Schneier left an email was sent round to the Security department thanking him for all his good works and wishing him well in the future. When the manager who had hired him (at reputedly enormous expense) 'left', nothing. I only found out six months later when I tried to contact him (OK, I admit I had been putting it off as I found him to be 'difficult', one might even consider him to have been "manglement").
Actually, the Trump administration is using menaces trying to kill privacy protections in Europe Union too. That's why the data hoarding molochs are all behind him now.
Hope EU responds barring again ALL data transfers to USA - as it did when Privacy Shield/Safe Harbor were ruled invalid. Especially now that is clear US won't put adequate safeguards on the use of such data at all.
Bu there are Europeans too that are lobbying against GDPR, especially now many believe AI is the Philosopher's Stone and will create gold out of data. It was terrifying reading yesterday Mario Draghi complaining about GDPR compliance costs for small businesses - it's always in the interests of poor small businesses, when they ask to kill rules protecting citizens' rights, not the big data hoarder, eh?
"Mario Draghi complaining about GDPR compliance costs for small businesses - it's always in the interests of poor small businesses"
He's not wrong. Just have some little guy roll his own customer facing web site (for example) and see what happens when he trips over some esoteric little privacy rule. Better to turn your IT/Sales systems over to Alphabet/Oracle/Amazon/Meta. We have an army of attorneys on our compliance staff to keep you out of hot water.
Ever wonder who might be behind all these tangles webs of IT/Data privacy regulations?
My guess would be that the little guy who's selling products to real customers is less likely to trip up over GDPR. The little guy who's a data aggregator like the one in the states who got pwned and now deserves to be sued to oblivion along with his progeny to the 10th generation - he deserves to be not just tripped up by grabbed by one of those leg-breaking man-traps.
If you are a little guy selling something on the 'net and you are just collecting what's needed (basic payment/shipping etc. info to process your orders) and you keep it only for the legally required time, I'm quite sure you are not going to have any problem with GDPR compliance.
There are no "esoteric little privacy rule". If you have a small shop just ask for the data you need to fulfill the orders, keep them safe, and delete them when the mandatory period has elapsed - it's enough.
If you start to track users, collect unneeded data. resell the data you own and so on, then, sure, it becomes far, far more complex and riskier.
"Better to turn your IT/Sales systems over to Alphabet/Oracle/Amazon/Meta"
That's how you get into trouble - because now you are collecting a lot of PII you don't have any need for.
"Ever wonder who might be behind all these tangles webs of IT/Data privacy regulations?"
Not Facebook & C. - who are actully fighting a lot the limitations GDPR puts on "free PII usage". If Draghi is lobbying for someone, he should disclose it.
> Not Facebook & C. - who are actully fighting a lot the limitations GDPR puts on "free PII usage". If Draghi is lobbying for someone, he should disclose it.
GDPR does not put limitations on PII usage, it does however put limitations on "personal data" usage. Personal data, as referred to by the GDPR, covers a larger set of information than the USA term "PII" (which the GDPR makes no reference to).
and see what happens when he trips over some esoteric little privacy rule.
What happens?
A roll-your-own is unlikely to breach data protection rules because they're probably not collecting much data - and PCI-DSS is offloaded to the payment provider in a separate iframe, so their system never touches it. If they spam their customers (or do something stupid like buying an email list to spam prospects with unsolicited ads) then they deserve what they get.
Which, realistically... will be nothing, or next to nothing - the ICO will come down on you with all the force of a warm snuggly blanket.
Of course SaaS providers have done very well by terrifying people into believing that it's impossible for a small player to comply on their own. And the irony is the number of people who stuff a cookie banner plugin onto their wordpress site where not only is it not needed, but which is most likely phoning home and actively harming their user's privacy (yay, you've just breached GDPR!).
The perception here is a very long way from reality. I host a number of small sites - none have a cookie banner because I don't set any non-functional/essential cookies (login cookies are covered in the Privacy Policy). Yet I have been told "All websites must have a cookie banner" and that "I'm breaching GDPR" (even though cookie banners spawned as malicious compliance from the - completely different - ePrivacy Directive). Much to my annoyance, my employer's public-facing website has a cookie banner, despite... being a static page that sets no cookies...
Elon Musk controlling, editing, deleting ANYTHING AT ALL in government payment systems.............
..............your pension, that recent purchase order, that recent government contract................all toast!!!
......oh....and you are guilty of corruption.....defrauding the government by cashing your pension check.......................
......more "improvements" to come.........................
You do realize that DOGE is simply examining data and making recommendations to the Executive Branch, right? Elon himself has no power to do anything other than examine, report, and recommend.
The noise level on the left is deafening.
Thousands of IRS employees literally have acces to all of our filed info (and often, unfiled, as in bank account data) every single day. People are concerned about Elon and his team, yet for decades, nameless, faceless, Gumment drones have had the exact same access. Sheesh.
None of this gets to the core matter of how to truly secure our data from those who would seek to harvest it for nefarious purposes.
No. Musk and his minions are there to set up backdoors into these US government systems so the data and logic can be manipulated by external entities.
Also, your "gummet drones" have gone through security checks. Elon's kidz have zero qualifications, other than hackers.
Indeed. See: https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/06/federal_court_leashes_doges_tresury_access/
"It was reported earlier that Elez, at least, had gained sysadmin-level access to Treasury systems, as a DOGE operative, and had already pushed code direct into production there to make it easier to block payments."
SysAdmin access is way more powerful than read-only. I don not know whether Elez' code was a 'back door'.
Schneier wrote an excellent blog post on the subject: DOGE as a National Cyberattack
"Also, your "gummet drones" have gone through security checks."
Take a look at who does those security checks. And who has repeatedly "lost" Standard Form 86 data. I expect that foreign intelligence services can easily get this information at the other end of the dark web pipeline. And now know who can most easily be recruited.
From the blog post
"Sen. Ron Wyden...the attackers gained privileges that allow them to modify core programs..Treasury Department computers..payments...and alter audit logs"
You do realize that what you're writing is in fact bu***hit?
Either you're ignorant of the facts or you're ok with them.
For all you US Citizens
"All your data belong to Leon"
"making recommendations to the Executive Branch"
And how many previous presidents (and other high office holders) have had their buddies from industry whispering quietly in their ear? And even giving them a private peek at the governments inner workings?
I used to work for an outfit that was putting a proposal together to do a major IRS automation project. I wasn't involved but a few friends were. The talk was that we were going to bid the project at a loss. Because access to taxpayer data would more than make up for the red ink. Fortunately (for the US taxpayers) we lost the bid. But I can't help thinking that the winners, being in the same business as us, didn't differ ethically by too much.
Talking to the President is one thing, which has been done since the US became a country. It's normal. People lobby for access all the time.
What is not normal is allowing an unelected staffer like Elon independent access to and oversight to all government departments, bypassing their cabinet members who should be in charge of the departments. (The fact that cabinet members in the US aren't elected is also an issue but it's a longstanding one).
Or to more completely characterise them..
The white male formerly undocumented African with 12 kids by different partners who seems to have come-and-go access to the Oval Office.
I wonder how the MAGAots would feel if that was a black women instead?
I doubt they'd be so relaxed about it.
< "The talk was that we were going to bid the project at a loss. Because access to taxpayer data would more than make up for the red ink..."
Assuming this was "the talk" at your former company, and not a story that you just invented, I'd wager it was just people spreading fun rumors with no evidence to entertain themselves while waiting for the clock to hit 5pm.
The other option is that you once worked for some extremely dumb criminals. I guess this is possible, but like I said, I'd put my money on option A.
This is all a natural consequence of the school of thought popularised by Ronald Reagan: Government is not the solution to the problem: government is the problem.
What Trump & Musk are doing is simply following on this line of thought. If government is the problem, then it must be destroyed.
Almost half of the electorate agrees with this, Trump boasted he would do it and Musk has form when it comes to hobbling organisations.
What comes to mind is, does America need to split in two? One America that values government and one America that has practically no government at all.
Otherwise the current America ends up with a government that works as well as Twitter. It is easier to destroy than it is to create.
What everyone is missing is that this is a classic misdirection !!!
Trump is hobbling the function of the government by sacking as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
This will delay & stop so many needed functions of government that Trump will be able to do anything he wants.
All depts that provide oversight and protections to the people of the US of A are being targeted.
If you are sacking thousands of people per day and giving no time to plan for the loss of people, govt depts will simply stop working !!!
Trump attacks from within, via executive order ... Musk attacks from without via DOGE which has an ill-defined remit that Musk can 'expand' as needed.
Trumps idea of moving the US of A 'back' to its most profitable image also means moving the US of A back to a time of minimal protections for all ... apart from the select few with ALL the money/power.
Trump has one aim ... monitize the Presidency and 'this time' remove ALL the impediments to him getting rich by ANY means !!!
:)
< "Trump has one aim ... monitize the Presidency..."
This is definitely a primary aim, but he has others. He wants to be added to Mt. Rushmore and be written about in history books as the best President ever, for instance. Some of these aims will be easier to achieve than others, obviously.
Only 47 more months to go... I hope we can survive that long.
He will get the ... 'Nobble Peace' Prize ... which is as close as he will get !!!
You cannot 'wheeler-deal' the long standing 'Middle East' problem ... BUT Pres 47 does not do empathy so people do not count.
Ditto for Ukraine ... you so called 'broker peace' without involving Ukraine in the actual negotiations ... yet again people do not count.
Note how the TWO solutions are actually the same thing ... impose a 'solution' from on high because Trump is better than 'you' and therefore you do not get to be involved ... sub-plot is that Trump 'gets' something out of the deal, again Gaza/Ukraine get NO SAY in what that gain is !!!
:)
Nothing said "Fu**ing delusional" quite like this.
Because nothing says "I'm better than Jimmy Carter" (who did win it) quite like the forced eviction of a people from their own land into third party states that are being strong-armed into taking them*
The $500Bn in oil sitting under their territory is of course completely unknown to him.
*And who have a long history of not liking Palestinians in large numbers. IE Tenants from Hell.
As a USian are you not aware of mid-term elections?
24 months of continuing grocery prices, including the increase in the price of nearly everything in a can or tin, along with some shortages in the crop picking sectors due to staff being "checked in" to one of the USG's high security "hotels" for such folk, should make for an interesting reality check
Just remind people. If they voted for the FOCF, or a third-party candidate, this is exactly what you voted for.
Chaos, disorder and a total focus on making the lives of billionaires even better than they are along with a general "F**k you" to everyone else.
A white, petulant, spiteful, ignorant and stupid man-child with a nice speaking voice over an intelligent woman of colour who is a functioning human being.
I hope the Democrats get their s**t together and use the next 22 months to do all the stuff they didn't feel they could do when Harris took over. Maybe she won't be the Leader in 2027, maybe she will.
Meanwhile it's true MAGA has all 3 branches of the Government and can do whatever it likes.
Provided of course every one of them tows the party line. That majority isn't very big after all. Quite weak in fact compared to say Keir Starmer's Labour Party with 174.
Provided those special elections go their way, like getting "School" Gaetz back into the House for example.
Provided of course Kay Granger of Tarrant County Texas (now living full time in an assisted-living facility) is still viewed as a functioning congress person. Even if her constituents can't get a word out of her on the floor of the House. Maybe MAGA is bigger than having someone provide you with actual representation on local issues?
We'll see.
< "As a USian are you not aware of mid-term elections?"
Sure, but I don't see how their existence shortens the amount of time we will be dealing with Trump's madness, as I'm also aware of the horrible incompetence of the officials in the Democratic Party. We have a situation where it's the stupid and evil vs. the stupid and useless. The Democrats have no effective messaging and would rather blame certain blocks of voters than look inward to see how they might be part of the problem.
< "Just remind people... this is exactly what you voted for."
Most did it gleefully, and would do it again. I will be a little surprised if the Dems don't win back the House and the Senate in 2 years, but I don't see them winning a filibuster-proof or veto-proof majority. Much of the Republican base will believe whatever lies they are told about why inflation is out of control, and the culture war is more important to them than details of economic policy (few voters on the left or the right really understand even basic economics, sadly). No, there will be no mass exodus of voters going from team red to team blue. Instead the Democrats likely mid-term gains in congress will come from Republican voters who came out in 2024 getting complacent and staying home in 2026, combined with an opposite effect on turnout on the Democrat side, and there aren't enough "purple" seats in congress to shift the balance far enough left to really be able to oppose Trump.
I really hope that Trump will only have 2 years where advancing his stupid and criminal agenda is as easy as it is now, but he will still do plenty of damage in the second half of his term, regardless of which party has a slim lead in congress. The only thing that may stop him would be one too many cheeseburgers, and then we'd still be stuck with Vance, so I stand by the "47 months to go" comment.
Sorry, but that boat has sailed a long time ago !
You can cut yourself off by not using (anti)social media or not using a smartphone (or anything with the word 'smart' in it.).
But in the end governments will put all your private data they've collected on you in "the cloud" so you're screwed anyway.
Me neither, but we should choose our battles and pick a strategy that has a chance to win. Our main problem right now is neither big corps nor governments; it's indifference. Going dark ourselves isn't going to win the war, not even if we do it in a really clever fashion.
What we really need is arguments that can break through to the average person who uses Facebook, reuses passwords, clicks "accept all" without reading, and thinks that privacy laws are useless at best, annoying at worst.
<......"But in the end governments will put all your private data they've collected on you in "the cloud" so you're screwed anyway".....>
I don't see that as a good reason to simply throw your hands in the air and give up, leading to you openly allowing them acces to everything. Whilst it is almost certainly impossible to keep a great deal of the personal information that they seek from falling into their control, there is a lot that can be done to make it more difficult and to prevent them getting all of it (and to a great extent, done without causing yourself any great hardship or inconvenience).
Those who seek to wield power and control always rely on the defeatists attitude to gain that power.
Schneier: Government needs to pass a comprehensive privacy law and regulate mass surveillance.
Sadly, as one can observe over the past days since January 20, 2025, government, like laws, constitutions, or mere norms are just momentary agreements we have between ourselves as putatively self-governing republics.
When, to paraphrase Aleister Crowley, "Your and whose army? Shall be the whole of the law," then all bets are off.
'When, to paraphrase Aleister Crowley, "Your and whose army? Shall be the whole of the law," '
I haven't heard that nutter's name for ages.† I read one of his books as a teenager and thought the author demented.
Crowley's phrase paraphrased was: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."
If the world hadn't been blessed by his passing more than seventy years ago he could be the high priest of today's ruling cults.
† Good Omens probably has a nod in his direction.
Wasn't that Immanuel Kant? The paraphrased version sounds pretty much like a variation of it...
I do know that Wikipedia credits the paraphrased phrase to Crowley1 but it's one of those phrases, like "Good artists copy; great artists steal,2" which may have many credited authors or antecedents.
Sing a song of sixpence, apocryphal of wry3?
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2 Quote Origin: Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal
3 I wish I could remember from whom I stole that line.
In a word
Bollocks.
The US "Momentary" has lasted 250 years and other nations have had elected governments for nearly a 1000 years.
So your "momentary" agreements can (and have) lasted centuries.
It's taken decades of work by people like Leonard Leo (founder of the Federalist Society) to pack US courts with his SEL Catholic agenda, and Rupert Murdoch to drip-feed right wing lunacy into the brains of people, ably assisted by Regan's (whose election was a real landslide) de-regulation of the US News media*
Meanwhile ask your MAGA neighbours "How's the price of groceries?" and "Haven't those deportations gone a bit quiet?"
Understand this. Once I have convinced you to give up I have won.
It's time all democrats (small "d" including actual Republicans) learned to not give up. The FOCF's won by doing something the Democrat campaign team failed to do. They saw him talking to Rogan and sneered "He's talking to the bros." Within 20hrs his podcast had 1/3 of the audience of the live debate Harris/FOCF debate. 3 Hrs of the FOCF's unfiltered and unchallenged bu***hit. it wasn't the only one he did.
How the f**k did a person convicted of sexual assault and fined $83m because of it win an increased share of the woman's vote? How did a man who wanted to ban travel from 6 countries and called it a "Muslim ban" (and move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, as the right-wing hardliners in Isreal had wanted for decades) gain a bigger share of the Muslim vote?
I wonder did any mothers believe his bu***hit about "Your son goes to school and you get a daughter back" nonsense for real?
A possible approach is shown here
*The event that paved the way for Faux News and it's equally contemptible imitators, as depicted in the film "Vice." When a man who has threatened democracy tells you someone is a threat to democracy, believe him.
> In a word
> Bollocks.
I'll see that and raise you one. Ozymandias:
[...]And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away1.”
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There is a German TV-only movie, called "Datenpanne" (produced 1982, broadcasted 1983 by our public broadcasters), which shows a possible result.
"Thilo" returns from five year stint in Africa. Digital password check at airport shows a problem, that he is declared dead since he was unreachable, but they don't tell him that. They let him through since they smell a problem they don't want deal with. Throughout the rest of the movie he is fighting the fact that he is alive vs. the computer saying he is dead. Trying to get a reporter to tell his story fails, 'cause the computers do not allow spreading "false information". The movie ends with Thilo at his grave, digging out his coffin. Only to find computer printouts, aka dead data, in that coffin. The movie is open ended, no hint whether the computer error is ever corrected, or whether the reality gets "adjusted" to what the computers say...
We already have such cases, and it is only a matter of time until that movie becomes reality.
We could go back to Mark Twains "reports of my death exaggerated" and several others before him :D. Wasn't it common, for a while, to add a bell to a coffin which could be rang from inside?
Albeit we are in the pre-computer era, where you had to fight stubborn humans, not stubborn machines regarding that.
Troubling indeed! ChatGPT's been known to love ending biographies with folks' untimely demises it seems, with Tony Polanco and Ben Olson as examples. The eminent Dr. Dabbs, of SFTW University, researched key aspects of that crucial topic in 2022, particularly the challenges related to administrative resurrection (in France no less -- explains everything! And it links to the Brazilian documentary mentioned by John Smith 19). FWIW, the more recent epidemic lasts since at least Forfar's Alan Hattel's case of 2020 in my estimation ... (could have missed some datapoints though).
Wasn't it common, for a while, to add a bell to a coffin which could be rang from inside?
For rich people worried about being buried alive, yes. There were perhaps one or two cases of people in a coma being declared dead incorrectly and then waking up in a mortuary waiting to be buried, plus stories of people being exhumed and scratch marks being found on the inside of their coffin lids (and I do stress they were stories), which got blown up into a morbid panic which could, like a lot of Victorian problems, be solved with technology!. "Just buy this bell and rope system (addons available for feeding tubes, escape hatches, ladders, flares, and rockets) for only £££££ and when you are buried we'll tie it to your wrist and if you wake up in your coffin the jerking will ring the bell and we'll dig you back out again!"
There's a lot more information about safety coffins in general on wikipedia here.
To my knowledge no one was ever saved by a safety coffin.
It may be (at best, circumstantial) evidence if and only if someone takes their phone with them every single time they leave their home, except when they're observed doing something nefarious.
I leave my home without my phone all the time, and so the only evidentiary value of that act is that I don't want to make or receive phone calls or text messages.
Cool to see the "This Machine Kills Fascists" sticker on Bruce's laptop, evoking Woody Guthrie's enduring and inspirational perspective, imho.
Let's show the fascists what a bunch of "IT hillbillies" can do!
... of Bruce with a laptop sporting the sticker "This Machine Kills Fascists".
Those machines are the descendants of the IBM tabulation technology Nazis acquired to track "undesirables". Today's technology is arguably millions of times more capable.
If you want to stay out from under corporate/government's magnifying glass, turn off your phone and computer and get your news from papers/magazines at the library*.
*But don't check them out with your library card. The whole librarian push back against the Patriot Act was just theater.
Nope. Might as well just tie your own hands behind your back Paul. The principle at play here is rather: "By any means necessary", which involves using the tools of one's adversaries against them whenever needed, NOT surrendering all options for defense. The Ukrainians (for example) have been doing very well at this against the cowardly yellow-bellied Russian invaders. It's just a shame that the distented rectum in chief sitting on the throne in the White outHouse wants to snatch defeat from the jaws of what can only be victory there, just to satisfy his buttkissing fantasy with failed-state loser war criminal Putin, imho! It's like his brains are being burrowed through by worms or suchlikes ...
"using the tools of one's adversaries against them whenever needed"
That works well if you are sitting outside the jurisdiction of your adversaries. Not so much if you are sitting inside. Or the borders move. Or the administration (and its agenda) changes.
Nope. It's just me, sitting here playing Solitaire on my computer. And using my phone for nothing more than ordering pizzas.
But I guess not.
>Apple is the exception. It doesn't make money spying on its users. It makes money selling them overpriced electronics.
Apple makes money by selling overpriced electronics AND spying on its used.
>Apple builds its systems that limit even its own ability to spy on its users,
Apple has total control over their hardware - even assuming their proprietary malware doesn't contain a backdoor or spyware (spoiler; it does), apple has the ability to push out an update adding it at any time (yes, they pretend you have the ability to refuse updates).
>which in turn limits its ability to turn our data over to governments when they demand it
Considering that Apple was part of the PRISM program, apple seems very willing to turn over information to governments, just as long as the correct procedure is followed (I believe the deal is that complete confidentiality is required and also a payment made).
The fact that individuals have to use large internet providers (Meta, Signal, Google) in order to obtain privacy (via E2EE) is surely:
(1) A real problem
(2) A single point of failure (for privacy)
I'm astounded (and puzzled) by the fact that Bruce ignores both points.
And I'm even more puzzled that Bruce has nothing to say about the use of private encryption schemes to allow groups of people to take control of their own privacy.
Yes....I've read all the stuff about "encryption is hard" and about "the risk of doing it yourself". But against those warnings I've also read tons of criticism of "surveillance capitalism".
Surely Bruce can help us here...........but obviously not in a fairly bland interview with ElReg!!!!
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