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  1. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
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    Anybody remember Sun Microsystems?

    I'm being facetious, we all do.

    Also remember their ad motto? "We are the dot in dotcom".

    Yeah... about that...

    1. Jay 2

      Rather ironically my own PSU magic smoke story is when we had some Ultra 10 workstations shipped from the US and my boss switched one on... And that day we all learnt to check the voltage selector!

      1. DJV Silver badge

        Ultra 10

        I was "gifted" one of those as part payment for some website work around 2004. I tried updating the Solaris install to the latest version and found it ran like treacle. So, I ended up trying out Gentoo Linux on it as, at the time, that was one of the few distros that would run on Sparc. After several false starts, I managed to get it running as a LAMP server which helped in my embryonic, self-employed website building business.

    2. trindflo Silver badge

      Ah. Another person who got to watch a Sun go nova. The one I saw wasn't a power supply problem, it just decided one day that its time had come.

    3. William Towle
      Coat

      Dying SPARCs?

      Also remember their ad motto? "We are the dot in dotcom".

      Yeah... about that...

      To be fair, they were for a period. But now, full stop.

  2. Aldnus

    Blown Cap

    The blown cap was just a noise reducer in the across the mains rail to filter unwanted noise is my guess, of course it would work, Luckily it wast an internalfuse that went. that would have been a lot more fun to sort!!!!!!!!!

    1. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

      Re: Blown Cap

      I would still use a 250V (or higher) rated capacitor in that role. Luckily one of Murphy's Laws didn't kick in (A $500 component will blow to protect a $0.05 fuse).

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        Re: Blown Cap

        From what I understand, for that application you should use X2 capacitors on the mains side that should be rated to at least the peak value of the voltage, which will be ~1.4 times the RMS voltage value (which is what we see with the mains voltage).

        So for 220V, it should be rated to at least 310V. For Japan on 110V, then a lower value would suffice.

        In the UK. I' pretty sure I see capacitors rated to 450V as the mains side noise suppressors, to give a bit more headroom.

        1. Not Yb Silver badge

          Re: Blown Cap

          These days a bunch of power supplies are designed to take whatever comes in and deal with it. Years ago I had a razor that was rated at "10V DC - 220V AC" (not a typo). Could plug it into almost anything with voltage on it and shave.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "built to survive minor accidents"

    We don't do that anymore. It's too expensive, plus our bright young engineers don't have the expertise to predict what might happen if a capacitor is blown.

    In my experience, if your electronic thingamajig gives you a puff of smoke, it's done.

    And forget repairing. We've lost that as well.

    Ah, progress . . .

    1. OhForF' Silver badge

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      I don't think bright young engineers are to blame. The penny pushers have figured out building things to survive is bad for business because it stops replacement sales - thus engineers were instructed to build in predetermined breaking points.

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        When it's brown, it's cooked. When it's black and smoking, it's buggered...

        1. Bebu sa Ware
          Windows

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          When it's brown, it's cooked. When it's black and smoking†, it's buggered...

          Taken in a different domain of interpretation not exactly PC but nonetheless not too far from the truth.

          Third electrical case is when the components is supplied with a voltage a couple of orders magnitude outside spec which causes the "surprised" component to fly off the circuit board at something approaching escape velocity due the instantaneous vaporization of its leads.

          Having prised such a tortured component from the case's lid I was a little surprised that it was still functional if amputated.

          † depends on what it's been smoking I imagine.

          1. Contrex

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            When I was young I worked in an electronics factory on Quality Control, inspecting and testing finished circuit boards one of the fun things we did was to unsolder a certain electrolytic capacitor, scrape off the red blob on the casing that identified the positive terminal, use a red varnish pen to make a blob by the negative terminal, and solder it back on the board, reversed. Then slip it into a colleague's queue of boards to be checked. The drill was, first inspect for wrongly placed or missing components, then put the board on a test jig and apply power. Usually the cap would let go after a minute or so with a loud POP and a cloud of smoke, but one made a sound like a pistol shot and flung its innards about 20 feet. Very stupid, almost certainly gross misconduct, mostly tolerated by the management, but if someone had lost an eye then ther perp might be for the high jump (if they could be identified; the whole prank idea arose because an example of that capacitor was supplied to us wrongly marked). It was interesting to see the 'Swiss roll' interior of an electrolytic capacitor all unfurled.

            1. Rtbcomp

              Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

              "It was interesting to see the 'Swiss roll' interior of an electrolytic capacitor all unfurled."

              Many moons ago I connected the cathode bypass capacitor the wrong way round on an amplifier I was building. There was a pop and the room looked like it was experiencing a snowstorm for the next 5 minutes.

              1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

                Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                And you never forget the smell...

                1. munnoch Silver badge

                  Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                  A bit like rice krispie cake I thought....

                  We had a Physics teacher who ran an after school electronics club who decided to teach us what happens when you wire up an electrolytic backwards. It took several minutes of reverse over-voltage before it agreed to let go with a loud pop and a few bits of shrapnel. We had all been made to hide under the lab benches just in case.

                  1. Ian Johnston Silver badge

                    Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                    I used to run robot building days in schools, the mornings of which were spent soldering the circuits boards together. I remember one physics teacher who got very twitchy when I told his sixth formers that a reverse-wired tantalum bead capacitor made a popular improvised detonator in terrorist circles.

                    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

                      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                      "who got very twitchy when I told his sixth formers that a reverse-wired tantalum bead capacitor made a popular improvised detonator in terrorist circles."

                      Damn Tantalum caps don't even need to be reversed for that to happen.

                      1. Anna Logg

                        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                        The worst being the ones that make it through production test with polarity reversed, then fail in the field.

                  2. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

                    Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                    When I was in high school, I used to wire up random components on a "suicide cord" (basically a plug terminating in bare wires), plug them into the wall socket, and enjoy the fireworks.

                    Yes, remarkably, I have all my fingers, toes, eyes, etc. I never even burned the house down, though I think I blew a few fuses (this was in an era before breaker panels were standard).

                    Youth and stupidity are a strong and dangerous combination.

                    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

                      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                      I remember glass germanium diodes lit up when give enough voltage and current in the wrong direction. For a short while. I'm not sure if LEDs actually existed back then or not. Maybe I invented them :-)

                      1. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

                        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                        "Maybe I invented them :-)"

                        I think the Russians invented them.

                  3. Martin an gof Silver badge

                    Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                    In my first "proper" job, I had been changing some PP3s in items of test equipment.

                    Finding a couple that were utterly flat, and barely raised a tickle on the tongue-test*, just for the "art" of it, I plugged them together to make a kind of monolith on my desk.

                    Ten minutes later as I was in the middle of something else entirely, there was the most almighty <bang>. The batteries didn't fly too far, but that day I discovered that PP3s are constructed from six smaller cells in series. The one which had exploded had six clear plastic cells stacked one on top of the other containing a liquid-soaked fibrous material, some of which was now on my desk, the one which hadn't (but which I opened up to see), had six cylindrical cells (like AAA batteries but a lot skinnier) stacked next to each other.

                    M.

                    *of course, while the tongue-test is great for 6V (e.g. PJ996) and 7.2/8.4/9V batteries (e.g. rechargeable and primary PP3s), it's not so good for 1.5V batteries which "barely raise a tickle". In other words, the fact that I felt anything at all from these PP3s should have warned me that there was some power left...

                    1. Sam not the Viking Silver badge

                      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                      In the 1960's, I repaired a portable radio. It had valves. And a 90-volt battery......

                      I learned a lot from that radio.

              2. 42656e4d203239 Silver badge
                Mushroom

                Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                One late '80s switched mode PSU, in a computer, had an internal cable that could be plugged in either way around (it had symmetrical colours on the cabling as well so no hints as to which way was which; you just had to be careful).

                One way everything was great, the other you got two bigish electrolytics pretending to be shotgun shells and filling the room with their guts.

                How do I know? well the hardware engineers were repairing said PSU and, for whatever reason, got the cable the wrong way around. BIg badaboom. Us software chapies rush next door to see what is happening and, once the HW chaps got their hearing back, they explained. Much mirth.

                /me waves to anyone who was there... good times apart from the light and variableness of the cashflow!

                1. David Hicklin Silver badge

                  Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                  All this talk about blown up capacitors has me twitching to head to my hobby workshop and dig some out for a bit of fun..................

              3. Boothy

                Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

                Back in the 90s I worked in an electronics lab (well, a couple of brick rooms). We built and repaired custom electrical and electronic systems (think custom control systems for industrial systems).

                We had a bad batch of electrolytic capacitors at one point, and they would randomly pop during burn in testing!

                We ended up making a case and lid for the test bench, to literally keep the lid on.

          2. trindflo Silver badge

            Surprised component

            Technician thought he had broken the test rig because there were no signs of power. Unplugged the board being tested and checked: nope, the test rig was fine. Connected everything back up, and still seems like no power.

            After sitting back and thoughtfully stroking his chin the top of the line driver that was plugged in backwards audibly ricocheted off the 30 foot (9 meter) ceiling. Then the lights all came back on the test rig.

            He said he hadn't missed getting an electronic caste mark by more than a couple of seconds.

        2. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          "When it's brown, it's cooked. When it's black and smoking, it's buggered..."

          Sounds like it could have been one of Lester's post-pub nosh mantras.

          RIP and still missed...

          1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            Definitely my style of cooking... you've seen the evidence in El Reg passim.

            RIP Lester.

      2. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

        "Bad for Business"

        Yet, back when things were built to last and to be repairable, manufacturers somehow managed to prosper.

        1. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

          Re: "Bad for Business"

          Because things were relatively more expensive back in the day.

          You'd be looking at paying £150-200 for a 20" TV in 1970, (£3,000 to £4000 today).

          1. Like a badger

            Re: "Bad for Business"

            And things were repairable largely because manufacturing was basic. If I look inside my Quad amplifier from the early 1980s, it's all visible, accessible, spaciously laid out, and almost every component is identifiable and pretty standard. If I knew what I was doing (which I don't) then any component could be replaced. But the reason it was like that was because it was made essentially by hand. These days components are smaller, circuit boards are far denser and generally assembled by machine, there's more custom components, and a lot more thought into making things more compact because people want things smaller and cheaper, and or they want more functionality. Compare my Quad to a modern Sony amplifier, and the internals of the Sony are more like a computer, with large ICs machine soldered to the boards, often multiple boards sandwiched on top of each other, miniaturised components everywhere.

            In real terms, stuff has become cheaper and for the most part more capable. To go back to the hoped for nirvana of repairable kit would mean winding back the clock on manufacturing and up front costs rising significantly - and still most stuff wouldn't be repaired.

            1. MachDiamond Silver badge

              Re: "Bad for Business"

              "and a lot more thought into making things more compact because people want things smaller and cheaper,"

              Cheaper, yes. Smaller? Not really. Some of the big chunky receivers could have been made smaller, but they looked awesome with big meters and dials and controls on them. I don't want a paper thin laptop. I'm fine with one that's 2cm thick and has enough battery to play 4k pron all day long. Or cat videos. Whatever. I'm I sharing too much?

            2. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

              Re: "Bad for Business"

              You're 1980's Quad amplifier probably needs the capacitors replacing. I don't know how good the capacitors Quad originally used were, although for the price, they ought to have been pretty good.

              I've done a couple of NAD amps for my own use (and yes, I know these were built down to a price), and yes, all the components can be changed, but be careful of lifting the board tracks.

              Even though the amps worked, looking at the board there was evidence of capacitor leakage all over the place (and no, I'm not looking at a silastic potting compound). And unlike modern electrolytic capacitors that have deliberate scored weaknesses in the end of the can to blow out to prevent explosion, these were leaking around the legs all over the board!

              1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge
                Headmaster

                Re: "Bad for Business"

                Damn. Stupid grammar errors! I wish I would read these more carefully before hitting "Submit".

          2. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

            Re: "Bad for Business"

            You'd be looking at paying £150-200 for a 20" TV in 1970,

            Closer to £400 for a colour one, IIRC. It's one reason why so many people rented (poor reliability being the other main one).

        2. JulieM Silver badge

          Re: "Bad for Business"

          Yes, but that was back in the days when senior management only paid themselves tens of times as much as normal employees.

          Once senior management decided they needed to pay themselves hundreds of times as much as normal employees to set themselves apart, that's when the rot set in.

        3. Terry 6 Silver badge

          Re: "Bad for Business"

          Prospering is no longer considered acceptable though.In the last few decades it's become the expectation that companies will maximise (short term) profitability to keep the share value high, trigger executive bonuses and ensure that the venture capitalist investors are happy

          1. MachDiamond Silver badge

            Re: "Bad for Business"

            "ensure that the venture capitalist investors are happy"

            The VC's want the IPO as soon as possible whereupon they can cash out at 500% of the original investment and move on to the next cow to milk.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: "Bad for Business"

              To quote an old UserFriendly:

              "You call 100% ownership a 'simple equity position'?"

              "Sure. We take the equity, you assume the position. Simple."

          2. David Hicklin Silver badge

            Re: "Bad for Business"

            Not only that but they all seem to live in a world where exponential growth can continue into infinity despite living on a very finite planet.

            1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

              Re: "Bad for Business"

              They're high on a Lightyear Buzz: "To infinity ... and beyond!"

        4. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: "Bad for Business"

          "Yet, back when things were built to last and to be repairable, manufacturers somehow managed to prosper."

          They'd even paste a copy of the schematic inside the case.

      3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        "thus engineers were instructed to build in predetermined breaking points"

        It seems we're back to the bad old days of the 1970s. Back then you could buy a fridge and the freezer compartment door would be just about well enough engineered to outlast delivery to the customer. Oddly enough I have a freezer built to those standards today. The only difference now is that you can order spares off the internet.

        1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

          Refrigerator's Freezer Door

          The freezer door latch on my mum's Westinghouse refrigerator lasted until I was in college. (I, and the refrigerator, are the same age.) When we couldn't get replacement parts, my mum had the repairman attach a magnetic cupboard door latch. That lasted until mum died, and possibly beyond. We had no other troubles with the 'fridge.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Refrigerator's Freezer Door

            A refrigerator was one of the first purchases my parents made after they bought their first house in 1962. It was still working when we cleared out my late mother's flat in 2006. Similarly when I bought my first house around 1984 the fridge-freezer lasted into the 2000s. Since then, on the other hand, I seem to get through them at about seven year intervals. They don't make them like they used to.

            1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

              Re: Refrigerator's Freezer Door

              Is it just the refrigerant leaking out? The old ones full of CFCs seemed to last forever. The newer non-CFC ones seem to need re-gassing after 5-8 years or so.

            2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

              Re: Refrigerator's Freezer Door

              Early 60s, fine. 70s was obsolescence engineering.

            3. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
              Mushroom

              Re: Refrigerator's Freezer Door

              No, they don't

              Recently had the compressor motor fail. New fridge time, I thought. But it turns out, the compressor motor was fine. They are now 3 phase motors (more efficient) and it was the 3 phase driver PCB that had gone. They all use the same PCB, $150 on eBay. I discovered this after paying $500 for the guy to comemout and replace it. Considering how much time he spent underneath the thing, I think it was fair. Plus, I learned something. Refrig still running fine a year later. I suspect it was a transient on the power line due to a lightning strike or a car hitting a pole.

          2. The Organ Grinder's Monkey

            Re: Refrigerator's Freezer Door

            I have my late mother's fridge stored in the garage. Had to drag it into the kitchen for a couple of weeks recently when the 10 year old fridge freezer died suddenly & completely.

            My mums fridge is a Prestcold, (manufactured by The Pressed Steel Company, one of those names that implies solid, traditional build) & was bought new in 1956/7 & which was in continuous use until her death in 2021. It looks a bit scabby but I can't bring myself to bin it. Anything that reliable deserves not to have its life cut artificially short. Beginning to worry now about how to make sure it still has a home after I'm gone...

      4. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        "The penny pushers have figured out building things to survive is bad for business because it stops replacement sales"

        Yes, but, replacements are only available for about 6 months after the thing has be EOL'd. I've got several small appliances where the selector switch has broken and nobody has them anymore. The problem is that the devices are built to last at least as long as the warranty plus a little margin so there's no point in having spares for sale during that time.

        1. OhForF' Silver badge

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          They don't want to sell replacement parts for you to get the appliance to work much longer than the warranty period. You're supposed to replace the appliance to increase their profit.

    2. Mentat74
      Coat

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      It all depends on "Who let the magic smoke out"...

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        > Who let the magic smoke out

        Oh, I thought it was the Sisterhood of Karn who did that.

    3. JulieM Silver badge

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      No -- our bright, young engineers absolutely have the expertise to predict what might happen if a capacitor is blown. It's part of an FMEA -- Failure Modes and Effects Analysis, an integral part of the engineering process.

      It's the beancounters who ruined everything, by insisting to cut every possible corner. An engineer almost certainly designed the product to be better than what was eventually offered for sale, but was not allowed to implement it in full because someone in a senior management position needed a new set of tyres for one of their cars.

      1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
        Unhappy

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        An engineer almost certainly designed the product to be better than what was eventually offered for sale

        Look at the PCB in cheap Chinese wall-wart supplies. You'll almost certainly find the holes & silkscreen markings for the interference-suppression components, but no such components fitted. After all, they don't affect normal operation and are 'only' required for the certification process, leaving them out for production saves a significant number of pennies (or fen I suppose) on each unit. Never mind that they can screw up radio for all the neighbours...

        1. Martin an gof Silver badge

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          holes & silkscreen markings for the interference-suppression components, but no such components fitted

          Which takes me back to the story about the original batch of Raspberry Pi from China. They failed EMC testing because someone at the factory took it upon themselves to swap the ethernet connector "with magnetics" for one without, presumably cheaper to purchase and therefore increased margin on manufacture, though the Pi people were very circumspect in their non-allocation of blame.

          Manufacturing hiccup.

          M.

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        > It's the beancounters who ruined everything, by insisting to cut every possible corner.

        Its not a new thing either. Going back to the 1990's we had some touch control table lamps, one came from John Lewis and 2 other identical but cheaper ones from ASDA (stop laughing at the back there).

        The JL one is still going but the ASDA ones fried the triac inside them each time a bulb failed as it was specced right on the edge whilst the JL one was over engineering but cost more. Got quite proficient at replacing the blown devices with uprated ones.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          Same with some Beko washing machines. They have 1A Schottky diode in the PSU that is constantly carrying just under 1A. After a while it cooks and dies O/C, doing no other damage but the PSU won't start. Simple solution is to replace it with a 2A one, cost about 50p + some solder, but I would guess that many of those machines are now lying in tips, unnecessarily.

        2. Terry 6 Silver badge

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          I can top that, I reckon.

          I had a really nice little camera, back in the early 80s. I'd had it about two years.

          Dad took it on holiday and broke it, no big deal. He paid for a new one. The only place that still sold them was Dixons- badged with their name, but apparently the same.

          It never worked properly ( didn't tell dad, he'd have been heart broken). But the film wouldn't wind on properly, it just slipped and moved on half a frame. On looking inside it, what the bastards had done was replace the thin metal gear that moved the film for a nasty plastic and slightly thicker one- which the film just slid over.

        3. pirxhh

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          Quite a number of German-engineered, decidedly not cheap, HomeMatic wireless actors (for blinds, lights, dimers etc.) have under-specced capacitors. It's a known bug and I became quite good at replacing these electrolytics with better ones (higher voltage and temperature rating); they're 17 cents each retail. The actuators cost around 40 Euros.

          It's not just a single model but multiple, and the problem is known for years. I'm not sure if the successors (Homematic IP) have the same issue as for new additions to my home control I prefer Zigbee components (better radio range due to the mesh routing).

    4. ChrisC Silver badge

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      Depends what sort of systems you're designing - in the world of commercial/industrial electronics, where stuff might be expected to keep on working for a decade or more with little or no maintenance, there's still a fair bit of emphasis placed on trying to predict ways in which things could break and designing ways to mitigate against them. And that's on top of any of the fault protection stuff we HAVE to design into the products in order to simply achieve compliance with whatever standards are applicable.

    5. Already?

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      Naim Audio (UK based hifi manufacturer) build a mix of relatively high volume production line audio - Muso, Unity, Nova - and primarily hand built black box gear - pre-amps, power amps, PSUs, streamers. Their claim is that they will service any bit of equipment that they’ve sold since they began in 1973, and recommend the low volume black box gear is serviced every ~10 years. Servicing is usually replacing caps and updating other items that have a shelf life.

      And on a different tack Mend It Mark on YT does a sterling job of coaxing failed electronic gear back to life by methodically tracing faults and replacing failed components. Definitely a YT rabbit hole worth disappearing down.

      1. Andy Taylor

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        Mend-it Mark is a repair genius. Also check out his "banned" video which resulted in a copyright strike because he had the temerity to accurately describe the innards of a £25k amplifier as no better than a student project,

        I've told this story before, but back in 2012 whilst working on a Fruit Store opening in Germany, we learned the hard way that TVs designed for the US market don't routinely come with universal power supplies. A step-down transformer had been shipped with the TV but was missed out. I was impressed that the TV lasted several hours before failing. I don't remember it going bang either.

        We had an identical TV couriered from another Fruit Store on the other side of the country to ensure we had the complete window display working for opening day.

        1. CountCadaver Silver badge

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          https://youtu.be/gJYIhLQJtTs?feature=shared

          Louis Rossmans take on tom Evans audio issuing a copyright strike is worth a watch lol

          1. Judge Dead.

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            Mark was remarkably well mannered in exploring that mess...

            A typical "oh dear", and a chuckle was as harsh as it got...

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

        Oh yes, Naim will service anything they made.

        Except The AV1

        The tuners

        The older CD players

        The multi-room stuff

        The older streamers

        The amps were very easily serviceable. But who put the 40v capacitors in the XPS which killed them if your mains was slightly above 240v but within tolerance for 230v? If you were lucky they just dried out and stopped your CD player working. If unlucky they unloaded the electrolyte everywhere. And stopped your CD player working.

        The amp needing servicing every 10 years was the 250 because another cap choice, the 10p axial on its power supply board would go high ESR and turn it into an RF oscillator.

        I miss servicing these.

        1. Already?

          Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

          My understanding is that PSUs & power amps are the bigger beneficiaries of a good service as caps tend to dry out over time causing a gradual degradation in sound, and when they come back with renewed internals they sound like new. I don’t know, never owned any of their kit long enough to need a service but instead have chopped boxes in as p/x during a steady upgrade process. Ask me in 2018 when my amp becomes due.

          The underlying point using Naim as an example is that cutting corners to encourage component failure might be an attractive business model in some cases; in this case going the other way gives owners a little bit of security buying their black boxes knowing that they have a good 10 years' use in them and beyond that can effectively be renewed so it’s either a sound long-term purchase, or builds in decent residual values.

          Anyway. Speaking of hand-built - I recently lost my job building custom hand-made clocks. I’m gutted, especially considering all the extra hours I put in.

          (c) Mr Keaveny on his CGR show the other week :)

          1. Already?

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            2028. Whoops.

          2. Tron Silver badge

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            If you are buying an 80s computer to play with, it is worth paying the extra for one that has been 'recapped' rather than just wiped over with a damp cloth.

          3. nonpc

            Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

            Could you get discounts on seconds?

    6. TooOldForThisSh*t

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      Back somewhere in the early 80's my now fully grown software developer son managed to create a large mushroom cloud of smoke from my almost new Texas Instruments TI/99A. No clue how, but I will have to ask him next time we talk.

    7. chivo243 Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      Puff, you let the magic smoke is out, impossible to get it back in again.

    8. Andy A
      Mushroom

      Re: "built to survive minor accidents"

      In the late 90s, I supported a certain large metro system. One Easter, a large Power Event took out lots of kit. Being the customer's own power supply, the resulting repairs were officially "User Error", and so did not have to hit the SLA.

      I headed out 20 miles to a site where the PSU for the network kit had died. I ordered a fresh one to be couriered in an sat down to twiddle my thumbs.

      "What about the print server?" someone asked. Without a network it stood no chance of working, but I took a look anyway. It was dead. These things normally had an external power supply. Surprisingly it was not the usual welded-shut type, but had a screw at each corner. I opened it up and it revealed a glass cartridge fuse. The wire inside had not just melted. The inside of the glass was a mirror. I visited their stores and found an exact replacement. The box powered up! The only time the fuse blew so as to protect the equipment I've ever seen.

  4. hugo tyson
    Flame

    HP/UX go pop

    In the 1990s we had one of the first HP/UX machines in Europe at work.

    It had a smart auto-switching power supply so no need to worry about 110V/220V/240V settings.

    Work was a country house in a village, taking a lot of power, being full of computers and industrial printers, and often suffered brownouts and power cuts; after a cut the IT guys walked round turning things back on nice and slowly so as not to make a surge - 5" rotating disc storage for one thing.

    Every brownout, the HP/UX machine went pop: it happily switched to 110V mode from 240, but was far too slow at switching back to 240V mode....

    Eventually they sent the machine back with a boring fixed voltage PSU and all was happy....

    1. Pete 2 Silver badge

      Whats in a name?

      > one of the first HP/UX machines

      A company that could have had a very different operating system if it had been called Packard Hewlett

      1. breakfast Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Whats in a name?

        I fear products under the PH brand would have attracted some acidic commentary.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: Whats in a name?

          That's a base comment.

          1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
            Trollface

            Re: Whats in a name?

            And no word of an alkali...

            1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
              Coat

              Re: Whats in a name?

              Lit mus verify that.

        2. Herby

          Re: Whats in a name?

          About "I fear products under the PH brand would have attracted some acidic commentary.". This is the EXACT reason the company was named "HP". I heard it from Bill Hewlett himself.

          Of course now it is just "HP" and the founders names aren't even mentioned.

    2. ChrisC Silver badge

      Re: HP/UX go pop

      Ugh, I detested those things when I was at uni - all the other Unix-based systems we had ran about as reliably as you'd expect from a Unix-based system, whereas those HP/UX boxes seemed to want to lock-up if you so much as looked at them funny. And don't get me started on the ergonomic disaster that passed for their mouse - now I think about it, perhaps the instability of the OS makes sense, in that it protected you from being able to spend too much time suffering the effects of the mouse before being forced into taking a much needed break...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: HP/UX go pop

        Some years ago we had a break-in in our office. The thieves stole all the Sun gear, but left the HP stuff to wedge the doors open...

    3. Martin an gof Silver badge

      Re: HP/UX go pop

      Work was a country house in a village

      Computer Concepts of Artisan, Impression, Laser Direct fame?

      I still use Xara Designer Pro. Or will do once I have something running Windows again (though maybe it's time to give it another go under Wine).

      M.

  5. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    100V

    Japanese hardware runs on 100V, not 110V.

    Just to save everyone from another smoke event.

    Yes, some devices rated for 100V will work fine on 110V.

    1. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

      Re: 100V

      And depending where you are it might be 50 or 60 Hz. Most appliances don't care, but I have had one record player that really preferred 50 Hz, unless you wanted everything sped up by 20%.

      1. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

        Re: 100V

        Many years ago the power was off to my village for an extended period and National Grid set up a generator to provide us with power for a few weeks. For some reason it was running at 60Hz instead of 50Hz. The only problem I encountered was the clock on the VHS machine (for this was, as I say, many years ago) started to run fast as it must have been driven by mains frequency.

        If I wanted to program the timer to record something while I was out I had to do some maths to work out what time the clock would be showing at the start and end of the show so I could set the timer accordingly.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: 100V

          "Many years ago"

          October 1987?

        2. Evil Auditor Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: 100V

          Most people failed to correctly and reliably program a VHS recorder even without a speeding clock.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: 100V

          When I was in university, the uni ran our dorm off of a generator for a couple days. (Can't remember why.) My roommate's alarm clock went off, so we both stumbled out of bed, dog tired, and started getting ready for the day. Eventually noticed it was dark outside, and checked watches - the alarm clock didn't like running off a generator, and was running at double speed. It was 2 AM!

      2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: 100V

        I may not be recalling this quite correctly but commercial US tape recorders imported & used in UK recording studios in 1960's had that or similar issue producing a wah-wah sound due to the windings in the motor coils set up for 60Hz, especially when transferring\playing back tapes on other devices.

        Exploited by The Beatles IIRC in some of their studio work.

        1. abend0c4 Silver badge

          Re: 100V

          My reel-to-reel recorder had a removable sleeve on the capstan to adjust for frequency as well as a tapped transformer to adjust for voltage.

          1. C R Mudgeon

            Re: 100V

            Mine has a capstan sleeve too -- not to compensate for line frequency differences, but to select between 1 7/8 and 3 3/4 inches per second.

            1. BenDwire Silver badge

              Re: 100V

              Akai GX4000 perchance? I've got one of those somewhere, but I expect it'll need lots of capacitors before it ever turns a reel again.

      3. munnoch Silver badge

        Re: 100V

        When I first got there in the 90's most appliances came in an East and a West version according to the frequency they were intended to work on. Lots of warnings on the box about how you'd cause a rift in the space-time continuum if you plugged it into the wrong kind of electricity....

        Now in the era of inverter and VVVF drives I don't imagine there is much left that cares.

    2. phuzz Silver badge

      Re: 100V

      The European and UK standard for voltage is equally loose, to allow older 220V (Euro) and 240V (UK) devices to be used on the same supply, which is now harmonised at 230V

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

        Re: 100V

        Well they say that... but a nominal 230v allows both 240v and 220v to be in spec. So UK mains tends to be 240-250v, and DE mains is generally 220v (though I just measured it at 236v).

        Resistive devices: irons, kettles, cookers, and indeed soldering irons, are quite aware of the issue when you use a 240v part on 220v. The tea takes bloody ages.

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: 100V

          Always pictured a euro-Sir Humphrey.

          Minister: The council of Europe has decreed the same voltage across the EU. Thus will cost tres Grande-Euro!

          Humphrey: Mais non monsieur minister. They only wish to harmonize. We just need to change the spec from 220+/-5V and 240+/-5 to a harmonious 220+25/-5

          1. collinsl Silver badge

            Re: 100V

            IIRC they went with 230V +10%/-6%

            1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              Re: 100V

              A euro-compromise / compromise-european !

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: 100V

        Looks at UPS...241 at the moment

        I have seen it as high as 265 for a while once, wondered why the lighting was a bit bright

    3. gnasher729 Silver badge

      Re: 100V

      There were plenty of Macs that ran on anything from 100 to 270 volt. Particular design of the power supply “switching power supply” or something like that).

    4. munnoch Silver badge

      Re: 100V

      "Yes, some devices rated for 100V will work fine on 110V"

      An external hard drive with a built in power supply I brought back from Japan lasted a few days on 240V before giving up. The internals certainly _looked_ like an SMPS but something evidently wasn't up to the task.

    5. Spanners
      Linux

      Re: 100V

      Japanese hardware runs on 100V, not 110V.

      It depends on where in Japan you are.

  6. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    Dreamcast Economics & Limitations

    The Dreamcast was not worth the money to me as a new unit. In addition to the console cost, there was the subscription fee to use it online (it came with a modem). It had proprietary features, such as the GD-ROM, to ensure only officially-sanctioned programs were developed and released for it.

    When it became trailing-edge, I picked one up for £20. It (at least the one I got) let you change the menus and game languages between Japanese and English. It was a kick to hear Kasumi in "Dead or Alive" exclaim, "Uruse nai wa!" ("I will never forgive you!")

    1. Frumious Bandersnatch
      Headmaster

      Re: Dreamcast Economics & Limitations

      Minor pedantry alert... the Japanese is "yurusenai"...

      • Base verb "yurusu", 許す,
      • potential form, "yuruseru", 許せる
      • negating suffix "nai", 許せない

      The English translation is close enough to "I can't forgive you", so that's cool. An alternative translation might be "intolerable!"

      1. Frumious Bandersnatch

        Re: Dreamcast Economics & Limitations

        (basically it's a heart-felt response to something that up with she cannot put)

  7. GlenP Silver badge

    We once had an IBM terminal go pop first thing on a Monday morning, not a huge problem as we were generally moving over to emulation software on PCs so had spare terminals. We swapped the dead one out for a known good device, plugged it in, switched it on and it also went pop, this time accompanied by smoke!

    At that point we stopped plugging terminals in and instructed the arriving staff to not turn anything on until we said so. The in-house electrician confirmed that instead of live and neutral on the sockets we had two phases hence the overvoltage supply. He blamed the ancient wiring in the factory but I wasn't entirely convinced they hadn't made a change over the weekend that caused the problem.

    1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      Ch-Ch-Changes

      Things worked fine for you until after that fateful weekend. You're quite right to ask, "So, what changed?" and to reject the sparky's "old wiring" booshwah.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Ch-Ch-Changes

        To be fair, he did work at Amalgamated Time Machines Inc. and this sort of things is/was/will be always happening

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I worked in a building where the electricity board were working on the building's feed and managed to screw the phases, meaning that the normal 230v suddenly became 400v.

      Luckily we were just round the corner from Edgware Rd and it's host of electronic parts shops. We must have cleaned them out of fuses, both 'domestic' 5/10/13A and internal/board level

      Most kit survived the ordeal... we had backup generators and I guess part of that included protection from over voltage as well as under volts

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        A guy that worked for me for a time had something similar except it was more than 400V. This I know because it arced straight over the consumer unit and set fire to his flat.

  8. Sam not the Viking Silver badge
    Pint

    It's always worth checking

    UK phase-colours were Red/Yellow/Blue: A pub nearby had its 3-phase supply 'updated'. Unfortunately, the electrician connected 'red' and 'blue' as 'live' and 'neutral' thus exposing every device to 415 V..... The resulting damage was extensive and expensive. Every electrical appliance was replaced.

    Fortunately, business was able to continue by candlelight, hand-pumps and cash. ---->

    These days, phase colours are Brown/Black/Grey which are sufficiently indistinguishable to encourage checks on completion......

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: It's always worth checking

      Modern plant based insulation means that wiring can be specified by taste. Different phases are Strawberry, Pineapple, Chocolate.

      It leads to extreme care that circuits are de-energised before licking them.

    2. Herby

      Re: It's always worth checking

      About phase colors and such...

      Here on our side of the pond, our "National Electric Code" (a 1+ inch book of letter size paper) specifies that the neutral wire be "white" or "neutral grey". The phase wires can be anything else (maybe not orange, but that is subject to opinion). The idea that a phase gets on the neutral wire isn't very common (or at least I hope so!).

      As for voltages, our center-tapped 240 supply (120-0-120 volts) can be lots of things, but at the moment it is about 247 volts according to the electricity meter on the side of the house.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    suggested the Dreamcast would dream no more.

    Ah ah, lol. Thanks for this good lol, El Reg !

  10. Piro

    Hm

    But the Dreamcast has an internal mains psu, with a figure of 8 input. The internal psu defines the voltage input, there is no wall wart.

    1. tony72

      Re: Hm

      What's the saying, "never let the truth get in the way of a good story"?

      To be charitable though, maybe it was supplied with a 240->120V converter, and the smoke incident occurred when they plugged it in directly to 240V instead of using that? Or maybe the teller got his consoles mixed up.

      1. goblinski Bronze badge

        Re: Hm

        "...maybe it was supplied with a 240->120V converter, and the smoke incident occurred when they plugged it in directly to 240V instead of using that?..."

        This ^^^

        PS: I am Spartacus !!!

    2. Noram

      Re: Hm

      The vagaries of time might have caused a mistake.

      From memory (I can't pull it out at the moment) the Saturn had an external supply, so it might well have been that rather than the Dreamcast.

      At some point I need to actually sort out the old consoles and see if any of them still work, although I'd need to get a voltage converter for the Saturn as IIRC it had a 110v supply and needed a 240 to 110 transformer (Japanese model with a multi region mod/cart from memory).

  11. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Sniff

    > reassembling the machine and returning it to the chap who'd been given custody of it

    ... who then asked why it smelled of washing powder

    1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: Sniff

      VENTILATION SYSTEM: You like scented air: it’s fresh and invigorating.

      1. Judge Dead.

        Re: Sniff

        Still waiting for the lemon soaked paper napkins here.

        .

  12. Bebu sa Ware
    Windows

    Arsène?

    Got it! Looped in by friend #1 (erstwhile custodian of the Sega.;)

    I was surprised that these beasties only had isolation transformers rather than supplying DC say 12V but that may have been before cheap switch mode wall warts. Given the unit got a decent dose of 220-240V AC and survived I suspect the internal PS was a switch mode or at least autoranging.

    As for Japan being synonymous with 100V AC mains, I once read elsewhere in this forum and confirmed by wikip the eastern JP is on 100V/50Hz and western JP 200V/60Hz. Moving house from Tokyo to Kyoto could be interesting. (Not that I suppose one could afford to live in either city.;)

    For the details of the North American 120/240V split phase system:

    https://theengineeringmindset.com/120-240v-split-phase-us-can/

    Sodding Rather peculiar IMHO but then what now isn't south of the 49th parallel?

    1. Sam not the Viking Silver badge

      Re: Arsène?

      I came across one of the split-phase converters on some old electrical plant. We had to break down a door in order to get access to the mains supply. Two-to-three phase converter with open terminals. It had been installed during WWII to restore supply after bomb damage.

      The customer, a utility, was upset because it had no metering so they'd had free electricity for nearly sixty years.

    2. PRR Silver badge
      WTF?

      Fifty-four forty or fight?

      > Rather peculiar IMHO....

      It is quite logical, step by step. Tom Edison had no good insulation, but found fewer dead workers around 100V machines, more around higher voltages. So lets use 100V! Works great for small loads in a small lab. Run a furlong to a real load, voltage sags. Well, crank the near end to 105V, 110V, whatever. Works good, now sell more customers. Saggy again. Start to run more wires. Wait! If you run just one more wire (3 instead of 2) across two generators in series, the sag/cost ratio is quite good. Not far short of 3-phase which sure was beyond the state of the art at that time. Oddly, 3 wire split works really well on AC also, gives 110V for lamps (domestic size 230V lamps were a later German invention) and also 230V for cooking and heating loads.

      Yes I have two classes of outlets and several sub-types (15A, 20A, 30A, 50A) but they do not interfit and only geeks like me have to know how to change a plug today.

      > .....but then what now isn't south of the 49th parallel?

      Canada Code is exactly the same as US code except a couple details they do better. It's still all split-phase 15A/20A black and white and bare.

  13. Luiz Abdala Silver badge
    Alert

    Multiple voltages.

    Back then, it was hard to find devices that took multiple voltages. If anybody today releases a device with that dinky cursed voltage switch in the back that needs a screwdriver, it deserves to burn in a 220V plug.

    HOWEVER, I remember mum had a GE vaccuum cleaner. Blue finish all around, 110V jobbie. Our home had 220V plugs, and mum had a ginourmous 20 pounds of a brick of a transformer on a tiny dish with wheels, that could take the 1200 watts of the vaccum device.

    Guess what the maid did... she fumbled the transformer wires and plugged it directly, the transformer went unused. It spun at twice the speed for 15 seconds, yours truly noticed, and flew towards the circuit breakers and unplugged the mains for the whole house. Being aged 10 back then, I already knew how the mains worked for undisclosed reasons...

    The General Electric device took the voltage well, didn't even smell that hard, and still worked perfectly. Oh yes, it was duly overbuilt.

    I would be surprised if your telly, your gadgets, and your PC power supply are not 80-250V and 50/60Hz devices these days.

    1. pirxhh

      Re: Multiple voltages.

      You might be surprised.

      I surely was when I lived in the US for half a year in 2019. I went to buy a monitor for my laptop, and most of the cheaper 22-24" jobbies at Best Buy were 115V only. Bought a HP that was both on sale and wide-range, so I could still use it after my return back to Europe. My nephew still uses it.

  14. ColinPa Silver badge

    AC/DC

    My father was in the Royal Navy as an electrical artificer. He was on a land ship in Plymouth. I remember him being called back from leave because they had had a power cut, and someone had connected an AC generator to the DC supply, and fried lots of their systems.

    The rating who did it had been proud that he had managed to get the connectors to work - despite it looking like they were incompatible! Until the big bang...

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: AC/DC

      "managed to get the connectors to work - despite it looking like they were incompatible"

      Just required the right size of hammer.

      1. collinsl Silver badge

        Re: AC/DC

        Just required the right size of hammer.

        Or judicious application of their size 9 steaming bats

    2. GlenP Silver badge

      Re: AC/DC

      Dad had a valve radio from his Merchant Navy days that had two plug switches on the back, one for voltage (everything from about 50v to 250v) and the other for AC/DC.

      1. Sam not the Viking Silver badge

        Re: AC/DC

        We had an attic full of old wartime radios of different voltages, AC/DC and frequencies. My experience on 'trying to get these things going' lead to my acute skill in fault-finding by electrical-odour. And fear of electric shocks.

        Even if you know something is 'dead', the first touch should be with the back of your fingers!

        1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Mushroom

          Re: AC/DC

          In my case it was working my way out of smoked filled rooms of a burning oil rig training exercise in full BA kit, by smacking the walls with the back of my hand, not the palm as if you came came into contact with damaged, exposed & more importantly still live electrical wiring your hand would clench on it.

          Icon - Yes we had burning barrels to enhance the experience.

  15. neilo

    Been there; done that...

    Years ago (1998), I was in Australia working on integrating some industrial equipment with some Japanese industrial equipment that communicated via ARCNet. The only ARCNet adapter was an ISA card, so when I had to go off to Japan to work on the final communications, the only option was to take my desktop PC. I powered it down, set the voltage from the 220V of Australia to the 110V of Japan, taped over the selector and flew out.

    A week later, I'm back in Sydney with all new source code and chips for the Japanese equipment. Excited to show what we achieved, I plugged everything in, and kerblam! PSU exploded.

    At least it was where I could easily source another 220V PSU.

  16. el_oscuro
    Mushroom

    Happened to me too

    I was in London to support the US in one of the old G-5 economic summits, and our job was to test all of the IT equipment we used. From computers, laptops, modems, power supplies, surge protectors, we had to test everything individually and as a complete set up.

    Of like Japan, the US has 110v electricity, and we had power transformers to step the 240V London power down. So I plugged a laptop into one of the transformers and booted it up without issues. Then I plugged in a surge protector to that same transformer and it literally exploded and caught fire. The laptop must have had an international switching power supply because when we checked the transformer, it was putting out almost 400v.

  17. Authentic Name
    Mushroom

    AT connector

    A friend rummaged behind his desk to plug his keyboard back in. It was then he discovered that his printer power brick*also* used the same connector, marked by a distinct "pop* and a waft of magic smoke..

  18. Grumpy Rob

    Malicious Compliance

    A loong time ago I was working on a project that used Allen-Bradley PLCs that we had to integrate with other software. We asked for a test PLC that ran on a 240V, but when it arrived it looked like it was configured with a 48V DC power supply. After a few acrimonious calls with an arrogant PM who insisted that he knew better we said Okey Dokey, and hooked it up to 240V - after hiding behind a desk :) PSU duly went bang, but only a disappointingly small amount of smoke. Shipped it back, and got a "real" 240V powered one, but no apology from the PM.

    Good news was that it gave us one of a number of excuses for "extension of time" - the customer was a Government organisation who, as usual, had faffed around for years writing a spec, asking for tenders, reviewing responses, blah blah blah. At that point the project was now time-critical, so they made us the whipping boy by making us promise to deliver in a ridiculously short time scale (sound familiar anyone?). Luckily they were just as hopeless at contract management as everything else, so we managed to get enough time to do a reasonable job.

  19. Mint Sauce
    Mushroom

    Sony Painstation

    I remember something similar, working for a company adjacent to the games industry in the 90's. Shiny new playstation, straight from Japan.

    Right let's plug it in and see what this baby can d.. *POP!*

    Good job they had more than one ;-)

    I also remember we were impressed with the Dreamcast as it looked like it had liquid cooling IIRC (was just a head pipe thing I think in the end)

  20. Andytug

    Auto voltage sensing PSUs can be fun too

    Back in the very early 2000s (I think) we had a bad batch of Fujitsu base units where the PSUs would randomly set themselves to 110V first thing in the morning. Which made for a rude awakening for the poor unfortunate on the opposite side of the desk as the usual 240V was applied to it at the press of the power button................the fuse went pop pretty loudly in a quiet office!

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No Speak-errr!

    Back as a student in the 1970's, I had a holiday job working in a hi-fi store. One day, we took delivery of a pair of Quad electrostatic speakers - very expensive and the hen's teeth speakers of the day. We stocked quite a bit of high-end kit, including Quad amps, but the cost of these meant they were only brought in to fulfil customer orders. The customer in question wasn't taking delivery for a few days and the store manager decided to put them on demo (with, AFAIR, a Quad 33/303 amp combo and a B&O turntable - the parallel arm one). He didn't trust any of us to be careful enough so he unpacked them, wired them in and switched on... BANG!!!!

    Each speakers had two connections: one for the amp signal and another for mains power. Somehow, our manager had wired them the wrong way round and 230V ac into the line socket was not conducive to speaker longevity. We never found out how he managed to get the connections wrong - as far as I know, the plugs should have been quite incompatible - but the speakers were hastily repacked and returned for replacement.

  22. aks

    Fried printer

    Back in the late 80s we'd got our software running on IBM mainframes, including in Japanese for screens, printers and pen-plotters. We were then tasked with making the software work on a semi-compatible Japanese mainframe. All went well until an office rearrangement when someone decided that the 100v plug on the dot-matrix printer should be replaced with a 230v one. I did finally find a uk company who repaired the blown components.

    Happy memories

  23. goblinski Bronze badge

    Well, up to the fifties Bulgaria was using 150v.

    The electrical system was built by a Belgian company in the very, very early 1900's, and at the time incandescent bulbs were supposedly not able to withstand north of 150 volts. Or so the Belgians claimed.

    Which locked everybody into 150 volts and some juicy monopolies came out of it.

    The country switched to 220v home and 380v 3-phase industrial in the 50s. For a while, people would use step down transformers at home:

    https://www.sandacite.bg/wp-content/uploads/balgarski-ponizhavasht-traqnsformator-1.jpg

    https://www.sandacite.bg/wp-content/uploads/balgarski-ponizhavasht-traqnsformator-2.jpg

    https://www.sandacite.bg/wp-content/uploads/balgarski-ponizhavasht-traqnsformator.jpg

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    DX Power Supplies

    The power supplies on the old Plessey / GEC / Siemens DX phone systems were interesting.

    Changing the main PSU units had to be done in a certain way. If you didn't you had the potential to be thrown across the room, as happened to me once.

    The shelf power supplies came in two variants, with one having the terminals the opposite way around to the other.

    It wasn't unknown for an engineer to wire the supply the wrong way, thus destroying the new supply and potentially damaging cards.

  25. Roger Mew

    The aim is not for most of the world as can be seen from "Voltage", 220V Gosh my 18 year old Granddaughter does not remember 220V Its been many years since 230V was standardized.

    R

  26. nonpc

    You didn't work at Newbury Labs, did you? We had a spate of large smoothing capacitors reversed on PSUs, so when one VDU started hissing while on soak test I was very cautious before putting my head in to the (switched off) monitor housing to see what was what. A colleague duly banged on the outside, causing peripheral damage to my head on its rather swift withdrawal. Luckily another colleague who had seen what was happening caught hold of my elbow before I lumped the miscreant, while wiping the tears from his eyes. When the red mist had faded I appreciated the skill and timing of the stunt, which of course I would have done myself given half the chance (apart from the fact that I was the team leader).

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