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A previously undisclosed group of FBI agents who investigate UFOs, or "unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs)," as the government calls them, are worried they may not survive an impending Trump-led political purge. This according to Politico, which spoke to various sources. One of those folks is Ryan Graves, a former Navy …

  1. beast666 Silver badge

    UFO crazies BTFOed!

    Winning.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      This weirdo again, nothing better to do?

      1. LBJsPNS Bronze badge

        Hey now, if you were in Mom's basement with no intellectual stimulation and no GF, you'd likely resort to odd and socially unacceptable ways of getting erect too.

        1. IGotOut Silver badge

          Got to find it first.

          1. amajadedcynicaloldfart Bronze badge

            @ I Got Out

            That's easy. It's on top of his neck.

      2. Tilda Rice

        >This weirdo again, nothing better to do?

        You must be joking, the majority of multi posters are juveniles who post anti Trump/Musk stuff every hour of every day.

        And yet, this guy is the weirdo? hahaha give me strength.

    2. Casca Silver badge
  2. Jan 0
    Holmes

    Crazies?

    It looks like crazies all the way down for the next 4 years.

    1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Re: Crazies?

      It looks like crazies all the way down for the next 4 years.

      Yep, with so many now unemployed and probably unemployable, it looks like they'll have the next 4 years blocked out to protest. Like the 'USAID' mob. Amusingly, Bill Gates has been on the news complaining that USAID won't be giving him as much money any more. Poor guy. Less amusingly is the news that USAID also shuffled money across to the 'EcoHealth Alliance' of Wuhan and Covid fame. Looks like they really were an Umbrella Corporation.

      ..building cases against Trump supporters who attempted to violently overturn the results

      Phrasing? the supporters were attempting to be violent? But if the witch hunt has been ended, and the political protestors pardoned, then.. unless they can be reassigned to other work, like, I dunno, investigating theft, fraud or embezzlement by the Bidens, USAID staff or recipients, then there's no work for them and redundancy usually follows.

      1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

        Re: Crazies?

        "investigating theft, fraud or embezzlement by the Bidens"

        Already happened, and by a Republican committee in case you feel inclined to play the partisan card. Complete and utter waste of time as nothing was found against Joe Biden. As for Hunter, who the f@ck cares, except for the partisan hacks of course.

        1. blu3b3rry
          Coat

          Re: Crazies?

          But didn't you know? The Orange One was appointed by god to reveal all of this, or something. Including that pizza chain nonce thing.

          I guess captain cheeto knows all about sexual offences.

        2. Casca Silver badge

          Re: Crazies?

          Its JE. The only more right wing is Beast666 here. Weird that he didnt get in some Ukraine hate like he normaly does

        3. Tilda Rice

          Re: Crazies?

          >As for Hunter, who the f@ck cares, except for the partisan hacks of course.

          Oh please. Biden pardons his own son and nobody is supposed to care. You really think Burimsa were paying Hunter for this "expertise"?

          Imagine Trump pardons his own son on something, the lefites would be multiple posting hundreds of times an hour for months on end telling us all how terrible it all is.

          1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

            Re: Crazies?

            ...imagine Trump not only pardons his son to protect him from a potentially democrat-biased prosecution but also pardons a bunch of lawfully convicted violent criminals. Oh, wait

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Crazies?

              "pardons a bunch of lawfully convicted violent criminals"

              You should look at the pardon history of Biden, Obama and Clinton.

              Bill Clinton pardoned Susan Rosenberg who was involved in the Brink's robbery (3 dead), the 1983 bombing of the capitol building and was caught with some 750lbs of explosive in her car.

              Biden commuted the sentence for a guy who murdered 2 FBI agents and a drug dealer who murdered a mother and her 8 year old son.

              A drug dealer who had his life sentence commuted by Obama went on to shoot someone, who thankfully survived, after release.

              There is also an issue as to the lawfulness of some jan 6th convictions where the enron clause has been used.

          2. JLV Silver badge

            Re: Crazies?

            You know, this would be a tad more convincing if Trump wasn't the first POTUS to muse on the possibility of self-pardon, back in 2020.

            Also, maybe Biden was out of line, but Trump 1.0 was pretty above the norms for nepotism, was it not?

            1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

              Re: Crazies?

              Also, maybe Biden was out of line, but Trump 1.0 was pretty above the norms for nepotism, was it not?

              Trump hired some family & friends that helped run his business empire. Burisma hired a crackhead that just happened to be a Biden. Nothing to see there, moving swiftly on.. And of course Biden lied about letting justice take its course and handed out a get out of jail free card. Along with the rest of the Biden crime family and cronies.

              1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
                Facepalm

                Re: Crazies?

                Are you talking about the man who accused Obama of spending too much time playing golf instead of running the country and then went on to prove he could spend bigly more time on the golf course than Obama ever did?

                See, it's easy to play whataboutism :-)

  3. The Man Who Fell To Earth Silver badge
    Alien

    They'll never find us.

    They are too easliy distracted.

    Look! AI!

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: They'll never find us.

      Now remember, if they come poking around here, we've not seen "amanfrommars 1"

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: They'll never find us.

        Fortunately, no one can be told what amanfromMars1 is. You have to see it for yourself.

        1. LogicGate Silver badge

          Re: They'll never find us.

          They came,

          Looked for intelligent life,

          Found none,

          Left.

  4. blu3b3rry
    Coat

    The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

    Is clearly whatever the hell is stuck on top of the President's head. Does it have a certificate to prove it's of U.S. origin?

    1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
      IT Angle

      Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

      I want to know why he insists on using so much fake tan and making it obvious that he does too.

      Whats under there? and does it have a permit to be outside New York ?

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

        Probably scarring from skin cancer surgery. Otherwise with all the golf he plays he'd have a natural tan on his face and wouldn't need the garish orange makeup.

        1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

          Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

          One of the UK news sites had a picture of him walking over to the 747 to head over to Mar-a-lago. That's one heck of an expense every time he does that. Of course it's also a nice little earner for him as he charges the Secret Service for accommodation.

          He can play Golf somewhere in Washington DC instead. May be someone should point it out to the DOGE crew as a wasteful activity and they will put an end to it

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

            "747 to head over to Mar-a-lago"

            I'd be a little bit careful making such claims given the previous 'president' loved to go back to Delaware at any and all opportunity.

            1. DS999 Silver badge

              Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

              Unlike Trump, he didn't personally profit from the lodging his secret service detail used.

      2. Evil Auditor Silver badge

        Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

        and does it have a permit to be outside?

        FTFY. Mind you, there's a reason why labs that handle highly toxic substances are hermetically sealed.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

      > whatever the hell is stuck on top of the President's head.

      I'm not sure that is entirely accurate. Whatever is stuck on top of his neck would be closer.

      1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

        Re: The most obvious "unidentified anomalous phenomena"

        A brass neck at that

  5. Decay

    Did anyone else have the theme to the X-Files playing away in their head while reading this?

    1. codejunky Silver badge
      Alien

      @Decay

      "Did anyone else have the theme to the X-Files playing away in their head while reading this?"

      I was considering rewatching the show while reading this. Hated the retcons when they brought it back.

  6. sev.monster

    Okay so, alternative take... Why was a department supposedly tasked with investigating UAPs also investigating January 6th?

    Are they trying to say aliens did it? Is Trump an alien? Am I an alien? I don't know what to believe anymore.

    1. Rich 11

      I think the FBI does strange manpower management things like assigning investigators to successive investigations as they come up, rather than sticking each investigator into a stasis chamber until the only case they are allowed to work on is reopened. No doubt that chappie with the interest in Government Efficiency will have something to say about this bizarre state of affairs.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Also concerning is that they had all these people working on both of these things and yet they couldn't tell what the flying objects over new jersey were, have still not found the Jan 6th pipe bomber and have relied on an online group called sedition hunters to find the jan 6th protesters for them.

      Now if anyone posts pictures of antifa protesters everyone loses their minds and screams about how doxxing is bad.

    3. teknopaul

      Drones

      I imagine most unidentified flying objects these days are drones.

      Something fishy is going on in the US with these drones people see. Imho it's US big Corp in league with govt trying to catch up China on drone tech by setting up a certification program that oh look only Américan companies have completed. Because they didn't tell DJI is was about to happen.

      US is not the economic powerhouse it was: they have to cheat to stay competitive.

      1. phuzz Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Drones

        I imagine most unidentified flying objects these days are drones.

        From the recent flap in the US, it seems that most of them are stars, passenger aircraft, and street lights. Some of them may have been drones flown by people trying to video other drones.

        Back in the day, it was very plausible that someone who saw a UFO (or a ghost, or bigfoot) wouldn't have a camera, so the relative lack of pictures made sense. These days pretty much everyone has a video camera in their pocket all the time, and yet the number of pictures of UFOs, (and ghosts etc.) hasn't increased at all.

      2. StudeJeff

        Re: Drones

        A few drones, a lot of silly people seeing airplanes and blinking lights on radio towers and imagining things.

        1. Rich 11

          Re: Drones

          Let's not forget that these drone sightings took place in the same state that had such a healthy response to Orson Welles' 1938 radio theatre version of The War of the Worlds.

  7. HuBo Silver badge
    Alien

    Langmessernacht?

    The purge is identical to 1934's "Night of the Long Knives", extrajudicial political removals, to consolidate power, and suppress potential opposition to increasingly forceful brownshirt activities.

    With Bessent giving them the keys to the loot at the Treasury's Bullion Depository, I fully expect its imminent pilfering, plunder, and pillage ... and subsequent replacement with worthless plastic toy Dogecoins.

    It's no wonder the association of convicted criminals in the oval orifice wants to shut down any and all outfits investigating such Unusual Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs)! (imho)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Langmessernacht?

      Raiding the Federal Reserve Bank with dump trucks while threatening to bomb schools (dismantle the Dept of Education) is so Die Hard with a Vengeance (1995). The "East German terrorist" lot in the White House is not very subtle with its plagiarism ;)

  8. normal1

    I saw something once, and think I got drugged.....

    Saw ball lightning change into an angel, and figured out the next day, I had been drugged.....

  9. codejunky Silver badge

    And?

    "Crucially, FBI agents and officials have been asked to fill out a Department of Justice survey detailing their involvement in the investigation into the January 6 attack. The concern is that the Trump administration will use this information to fire anyone deemed disloyal to the President."

    Is that a bad thing? Near a decade of the FBI inserting themselves into the presidential elections by attacking Trump even to the point of breaking the law up to raiding his home and leaking photos of an active investigation! And at the same time protecting Biden!

    Anyone assigned to the job because they are investigators probably didnt have a choice, but those who actively participated should be worried for their jobs. They are the corruption that needs to be removed.

    "This has already happened at the DOJ, where employees involved with criminal prosecutions of the President have been fired, along with those building cases against Trump supporters who attempted to violently overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election."

    And this is why the lawfare stepped up to 11, Trump would not just ignore it this time. These people started the conflict by going after private citizens in a show to stop Trump becoming president. Now they fear retaliation. Retaliation for what? Near a decade of attacks.

    Just imagine you were the target not Trump. The state designates you an enemy just because.

    1. Wincerind

      Re: And?

      So, investigating potential criminal activity is wrong???

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: And?

        It depends if your undercover assets encouraged, took part in, planned or in any other way caused people to do these potential criminal activities.

        Its not like the FBI or ATF has ever done anything similar in the past.......

      2. codejunky Silver badge

        Re: And?

        @Wincerind

        "So, investigating potential criminal activity is wrong???"

        Interestingly what you said has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. Feel free to try and relate it but I am fairly sure you will not succeed.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: And?

          It is this line in your statment that I think promped the question.

          "Anyone assigned to the job because they are investigators probably didnt have a choice, but those who actively participated should be worried for their jobs. They are the corruption that needs to be removed."

          It seems to imply that invesitgators assigned to the job should be considered corrupt if they then 'activley participated' which I take to mean they actually did their job to the best of their ability.

          which in turn makes "So, investigating potential criminal activity is wrong???" a legitimate question because the only other option an assigned investigator has in this scenario is to not investigate and be sacked for not doing their job...

          This may not have been you intended meaning but I have thus far failed to parse the sentence and come up with any other.

          1. codejunky Silver badge

            Re: And?

            @AC

            "It seems to imply that invesitgators assigned to the job should be considered corrupt if they then 'activley participated' which I take to mean they actually did their job to the best of their ability."

            By actively participated I mean those who joined the mission against Trump, not assigned to investigate a potential crime. We have seen time and time again the corruption against Trump and the FBI really should have learned after the Russia hoax they actively participated in even when they knew it was a lie. They took it so far that they broke the law just to try and get the guy!

            "This may not have been you intended meaning but I have thus far failed to parse the sentence and come up with any other."

            Hopefully that expresses my meaning better.

      3. StudeJeff

        Re: And ... "Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime"

        Too many people in the government follow the old dictum "Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime", that kind of behavior is even more odious in the United States than it was in Russia.

        And the people responsible should be held criminally liable. Doesn't matter if they work for the FBI, if they are a DA, a county sheriff, or whatever.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: And?

      What Trump should have done was pre-emptively pardoned everyone involved with Jan 6th before he left office. But if we recall correctly the likes of Biden, Schiff, Schumer and Raskin were bleating on TV about how the president must not make a 'gross abuse' of the pardon powers and that pre-emptive pardons are just an admission of guilt.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--tBJZkU-S4

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfTheTpBEk

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_8pfesInqI

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOiQWAm61fk

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: And?

      lawfare

      This is more like borefare. Get some new material. And stop being such a total felonizer.

  10. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    Why the FBI?

    Shouldn't someone like the FAA, US Air Force or US Space Force be in charge of figuring out what these things are? And only then, and if criminal or foreign intelligence is involved, call in the FBI.

    On the other hand, I get it. Everyone wants to partner with Scully.

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