back to article Who is DDoSing you? Rivals, probably, or cheesed-off users

In addition to Chinese spies invading organizations' networks and ransomware crews locking up sensitive files, botnets blasting distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks can still cause a world of hurt — and website downtime — and it's quite likely your competitors are to blame. Cloudflare, in its most recent quarterly DDoS …

  1. Guy de Loimbard Silver badge
    WTF?

    You would think

    Actively DDoSing a competitor would be illegal, say, somehow against some sort of cyber crime legislation.

    If that's the case, why isn't anyone suing the living crap out of each other in this space?

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: You would think

      "why isn't anyone suing the living crap out of each other in this space?"

      It would need evidence. Suspicion is no evidence.

      1. ExtremeModerate

        Re: You would think

        So they're blaming competitors on a hunch with no proof whatsoever. Sounds reasonable.

  2. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    WTF?

    DDOS attacks are getting shorter ?

    I thought the point was denial of service. Ten minutes max of denial is nothing. Borkzilla's Azure does hours, or even days at the drop of a hat.

    Oh, and a disgruntled user ? So, somebody who goes on the Dark Web (because they're not advertising on Google, if I'm not mistaken), contacts some criminal hacker group and rents their service for ten minutes ?

    Those hackers must be selling pretty cheap. On the other hand, they haven't bought the equipment they've hacked, so it likely doesn't cost them much.

    1. Killfalcon

      Re: DDOS attacks are getting shorter ?

      I guess there can be lasting effects - stuff needing reboots, etc.

      That said, the point of a DDoS is what the attackers wanted to do. The classic is "DDoS on a player in an online game", which only needs to last long enough for the attacker to win the game (or make the target lose). Maybe it's cover for another attack. Maybe it's just testing for a response. Maybe the intent is just to have the target "randomly" go down - do that often enough and it'll make their service look unreliable, costing them customers without as much publicity as a complete take-down.

      Also, from what I've seen - some of them are just badly written web scrapers. Some %age of what cloudflare is calling a DDoS could well be people hunting for things to shovel into their LLM.

    2. ExtremeModerate

      Re: DDOS attacks are getting shorter ?

      A ten minute DDOS that likely won't do anything since mitigation is common everywhere now. Nothing about this take away makes any sense. Goes to show the people that they surveyed have no clue behind root causes which is obviously the point of the first D in the DDOS.

      1. Killfalcon

        Re: DDOS attacks are getting shorter ?

        Actually, you may have hit on it: it could be on average that's how long they take to give up when seeing the mitigation kick in.

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