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The world has been treated to tech bros squabbling over Stargate, the alleged $500 billion artificial intelligence infrastructure project led by OpenAI, while the grown-ups look on. The Stargate Project was made public on Tuesday during a White House briefing. The plan is to spend the money over the next four years building …

  1. Omnipresent Silver badge

    The money is coming from the saudis

    As I posted the link in the other story about the 500B (Half a trillion!). The saudis told frump they would be very happy to give him the 5-600 billion to help him build his AI infrastructure.

    The APNews reported it: https://apnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-us-investment-trump-6730a89f93b44ed8d705638f95700cbb

    The funding is coming from the saudis, just like when they bought twitter.

    1. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Yeah maybe

      It's turning into a pissing contest now. People throwing around greater and greater numbers with or without clear connections to where it's all going.

      Key thing - AP noted: "The readout did not elaborate on where those investments and trade could be placed."

      C.

      1. Omnipresent Silver badge

        Re: Yeah maybe

        There is historical precedent for this. The Saudis gave Jared Kushner a 2 Billion dollar "Loan" (wink, wink) that he never had to pay back, which they then leveraged into the twitter purchase with the help of Musk last time.

        There are so many ways this can go, it will never be able to be kept track of.

        Imagine the Saudis put up the collateral, while trump tells them he is all in on saudi oil, that he will sell back to europe. They borrow money from japan, invest it, pay it back with profit, there will be tax write offs and kick backs. Then Saudis have oil sales, and direct access to classified information... Just theorizing ... it can go a lot of ways.

        The Saudis just told Frumpy they would give him (half a trillion!) just to show up and say hi.

        1. Gary Stewart Silver badge

          Re: Yeah maybe

          And of course to manhandle their glowing orbs.

        2. MyffyW Silver badge
          Black Helicopters

          Re: Yeah maybe

          As long as a deal involving trading eggs from Sicily to Malta and cotton from Egypt is on the table I, for one, have every confidence in our new leadership.

          "What's good for E&M Enterprises is good for the country"

          1. graeme leggett Silver badge

            Re: Yeah maybe

            So there's no catch?

            1. Roj Blake Silver badge

              Re: Yeah maybe

              There are at least 22 of them.

              1. MachDiamond Silver badge

                Re: Yeah maybe

                "There are at least 22 of them."

                And they all interlock in odd ways.

      2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

        Re: did not elaborate on where those investments and trade could be placed

        TSMC?

      3. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

        Re: Yeah maybe

        I believe what we have here is a classic middle school1 cafeteria food fight.

        For instance, behold this jewel of adolescent wit:

        Altman followed up with an apparent shot at Musk this morning, writing, "just one more mean tweet and then maybe you'll love yourself...'"2

        Nyah. Nyah. Nyah.

        As I mentioned elsewhere, I'm all for embracing one's inner child but I can do without the outer tantrums.

        _______________

        1 Apologies to any non-US readers -- "middle school" here in the US of A is grades 6 through 8 with students ranging in age between 11 and 14.

        2 Elon Musk, Sam Altman feud after attacks on Trump Stargate project

  2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Joke

    SoftBank has well under $10B secured. I have that on good authority."

    May be Musk expected SoftBank to use a phrase that he is familiar with - "Funding Secured"

  3. wolfetone Silver badge
    Coat

    Musk has had it up to HERE with this bullshido!

    At least I think that's what he was saying the other night.

    1. parlei

      No, that's him indicating how deep into nazi crap he is: way over his head

      1. wolfetone Silver badge

        Behave, he just wanted to take the fourth reich.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          ... Muskrat just wants to prove he's the Reichest man in the world ...

      2. Paul Crawford Silver badge

        https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/seven-completely-innocent-gestures-that-can-easily-look-like-a-nazi-salute-20250123254183

  4. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Flame

    <loud swearing noises>

    The US is awash in hungry children and declining educational standards, but let's throw $500B down the endless money pit of AI. Of course, that's only 1/3 the estimated cost of the F-35 program, which just shows where our national values lie.

    1. Wang Cores

      Re: <loud swearing noises>

      Ostensibly it's all private money, but private money being able to approach 1/3 the entire military budget for one aircraft type that's supposed to be the standard fighter-bomber across the entire military is an obscenity in itself on top of it.

      1. Like a badger

        Re: <loud swearing noises>

        The F35 is merely keeping up with Augustine's Law.

        https://www.csis.org/analysis/updating-augustines-law-fighter-aircraft-cost-growth-age-ai-and-autonomy

      2. Rafael #872397
        Flame

        Re: Ostensibly it's all private money

        Unless you count all bailouts, subsidies, loans, high-priced gubmint contracts, stimulus, incentives, tax breaks created by armies of lawyers, defaults on payments, etc., it is all private money.

        1. rg287 Silver badge

          Re: Ostensibly it's all private money

          Weird how tight finances are until the banking sector needs bailing out. Then they can magically find $14Tn (yes, with a T) from down the back of the sofa (read: the Fed printed it. Because printing is actually fine within certain parameters).

          But that money can't be found for anything useful, like schools or infrastructure.

          Which is not to say that letting the entire banking sector collapse would not have been a disaster for everyone. Of course it needed bailing out. But it did force the hand of economists to say out loud that dirty little secret "Money is not a finite resource. It's an artificial construct. Central banks do not work the same as household finances. When politicians claim "there is no money", they're either economically innumerate or are using that as an excuse for their personal political position - they could actually fund better services if they wanted".

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

            Re: Ostensibly it's all private money

            Weird how tight finances are until the banking sector needs bailing out. Then they can magically find $14Tn (yes, with a T) from down the back of the sofa (read: the Fed printed it. Because printing is actually fine within certain parameters).

            But that money can't be found for anything useful, like schools or infrastructure.

            rg287,

            Banking is all about confidence. If you lend the banks a couple of trillion dollars of just printed money - then they literally can't go bust. However you can then recall those loans 2 years later - the banks were literally forced to take that money in the UK and US, whether they wanted it or not - then you have literally spent no money. In fact those forced loans to the banks made a small profit, as they all had to pay interest on them. The loans were paid back and the money was destroyed (un-printed?) again.

            This was purely an excercise in confidence building and had almost no effect on the economy - other than stopping a catastrophic banking collapse and possibly lowering interest rates somewhat.

            Other money was printed and used to nationalise, or partially nationalise, banks - which is different - but again they were then slowly sold back to the markets and the money un-printed. So again minimal economic effect. No spending has actually happened in the real economy.

            Other money was printed and used to buy government debt. That actually created inflation - as government spent more than it otherwise could have. Which was good, because at the time we had a severe risk of deflation - so inflation was useful. However when the same trick was tried during the pandemic, we overdid it a bit - or at least didn't reverse the QE fast enough, and got 10% inflation in one year. That is the economic constraint. You can't print money to spend on schools and hospitals without using up real goods, services and labour from the real economy. In a depression that's actually good - causing inflation where you have none (or worse negative) is a good thing. But do it in an economy not in depression and you get inflation.

            Printing money to stop banks imploding, which they don't spend, and then taking that money back doesn't really cause inflation - so you can do it anytime you want. Basically it's different - because it's not being used in the real economy to compete for goods, services and wages.

            Also remember, the banks were not "bailed-out". They were given loans at interest (higher than base rates) if they were solvent, or they were nationalised at very low market prices and then sold back for a profit later. All these measures cost the banks (or their shareholders) money and made profit for the governments. I don't think we're due to fully sell RBS until next year though. The government even made a profit on Northern Rock - which was nationalised after it went bust. Or, as I rather suspect, was made bust by the Bank of England in a misguided attempt to teach the banks a lesson (moral hazard), even though it was technically solvent. Whereas RBS were nationalised and given loans even though I'm willing to bet they weren't solvent - but winding them up would have been a disaster so it wasn't done.

            1. rg287 Silver badge

              Re: Ostensibly it's all private money

              You make many fair points, but omit key details.

              Banking is about confidence, as is the economy in general. If you start-stop projects like HS2 (for instance), or Sizewell, or whatever it might be, then industry lacks confidence to invest in plant, staff or apprentices. The government is in a unique position to give confidence and stability to industry, given their ability to borrow over 10/20/50+ year time horizons - yet opts not to. They like to "make the private sector take the risks", but this simply results in the private sector charging more to cover their risk. Several billion of the "overspend" on Hinckley Point is "cost of capital" because the Tories insisted that the funding be private - meaning EDF were borrowing commercially at much higher interest rates than the government could have financed at. The difference being borne by you and me in increased energy bills.

              In the case of the 2008 crash, it is not entirely fair to say no real money entered the economy, given that quite some billions definitely entered the hands of private shareholders of banks like RBS, and have remained there (RBS currently trades at ~150p, it was bailed out at 499p/share. The difference - more than £10Bn - is in private hands).

              To conflate the 2022/23 inflation spike (10%) with Covid spending is quite misleading. Direct spending into the economy (via furlough, etc) certainly drove some inflation. However, we also saw energy prices rising in 2021 (with the likes of RHE going bust) due to global supply chain issues, which was down to external factors outside the control of UKGov or the BoE (with even north sea gas being traded in $USD). Mr Putin then invaded Ukraine in 2022 sending energy prices skyrocketing. Energy pricing underpins the entire economy (from keeping the lights on, to cost of manufacture, cost of haulage, etc), so these external factors were bound to drive at least 5% inflation on their own. You can't increase the price of diesel by 20% and not see inflation.

              One might argue that the government should have taken action - but energy demand is relatively inelastic. The only person building a new heated swimming pool was Mr Sunak. If energy prices spike, inflation spikes. Fact of life (although it would have spiked less if Cameron hadn't "cut all the green crap" and we were less reliant on gas). But at least half - if not more - of our 10% inflation was down to energy pricing. We also saw some inflation due to busted supply chains (and a certain tanker in the Suez), which was to be expected. But this leads me onto the next point...

              That is the economic constraint. You can't print money to spend on schools and hospitals without using up real goods, services and labour from the real economy.

              This is true, but presumes that goods/services/labour exist at a fixed quantity of supply. In the first instance, we have unemployment, and significant underemployment, with a lot of disguised unemployment to boot. So we can definitely find some labour without triggering NAIRU. Moreover, the resource limit of the economy is movable. For instance, quarries have reopened mothballed railheads to ship aggregate for HS2 and Hinckley Point/Sizewell. This increases the supply of goods and the "resource limit" in the economy. A load of stone that would have required 70 trucks and drivers is now moved by a single locomotive/driver, and imposes no additional traffic on local (often rural roads), nor contributes to potholes. Where a quarry's output might once have been bottlenecked by the daily HGV movements they could accommodate (or the amount of driver labour that was available), they can now scale production to meet demand in a non-inflationary manner. I have been sat in Buxton having lunch and witnessed more than 30 aggregate trucks come past the cafe in an hour. In some cases, single loads are useful (delivering to roadside dumps for resurfacing works), but in many cases are a woefully inefficient way of getting material from a quarry to a batching plant or similar. We have allowed this to happen through decades of underinvestment in non-road transport infrastructure, but could shift a lot more material a lot cheaper for a relatively small capital investment.

              This is a key takeaway - that sustained and reliable investment (even if it comes from deficit spending) can improve the infrastructure in a way which increases production and/or reduces unit cost. Particularly when delivered through a rolling programme which allows skills to be developed and retained, leading to lower unit costs, rather than start-stop individual projects. These economies are what we saw during the great growth of the 1960s, with massive rail freight, but also investment in motorways and dual carriageways reducing delivery times, allowing road hauliers to use larger HGVs to navigate the UK's road network and making more efficient use of driver hours. The builders of those motorways were contracted almost on a rolling basis - there was always a next-job to move onto. They weren't asked to do a 20mile section, then idled for 18months whilst government hmm'd and haw'd over whether it made sense to do the next bit.

              Put simply, we certainly could deficit-spend on schools or hospitals if we improved our infrastructure to provide the resources required.

              To stick with the transit angle (since this is the area the UK and US have signficiantly underinvested for past decades, and has high latent demand), if we improved buses/trams/trains to the point that we encourage modal-shift from car usage for journeys like urban commuting, this would see a reduction in both fuel usage (insulates the economy against oil prices/OPEC) and also car sales (predominantly of imported marques, whether from Germany, France, Slovakia or Japan). Clearly, deficit spending on buses from Dennis, Plaxton, Wrightbus or Mellor is better for our balance of trade than importing lots of cars on credit (but private credit, so the govt don't care!) from VAG and BMW. We improve urban mobility because buses carry a lot more people than cars per sqm of road space and are accessible to non-drivers.

              Well regulated/publicly owned transit in turn reduces individual expenditure on travel (see BeeNetwork) - instead of a couple needing a car each, they can manage with one, and feel secure in relying more on public transit for many journeys. This leaves them greater disposable income, which will generally be spent in the local community - dining, entertainment, home improvements, etc.

              So whilst the Chancellor cannot simply "make it rain". They could certainly be much bolder in their strategic investments and infrastructure plans. Committing to HS2 (and stepping back and letting the engineers get on with it) for instance would allow industry to train and retain apprentices/skills. By releasing capacity from the legacy network, it allows an increase in local rails and rail freight, which then drives modal shift. This sees travel spend migrate to a more domestic cycle, directly supporting local jobs and workers - instead of being siphoned off into the bank accounts of foreign multinationals.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Ostensibly it's all private money

                Private money is the obverse of public debt - its really the same money but with a different name (e.g. the higher the debt the richer the billionnaires).

                This is why moves to slash government debt cause recession/depression and "austerity" always fails to improve the economy.

    2. Cris E

      Re: <loud swearing noises>

      I don't know how the F35 fits in here, but the AI stuff is what we're doing instead of education. Just as we were all allowed to use calculators in school (to the outraged howls of our elders) these kids will just ChatGPT everything and not look back. It'll be fine once you relax and accept your future. Perhaps you could ask alexa or siri about some deep breathing exercises to help...

      / s of course

      1. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge
        Terminator

        Re: <loud swearing noises>

        Once AI is everywhere, you don't need no education...

        You don't need humans either...

      2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

        Re: Calculators

        For getting things done a calculator is a big step up from log tables. The down side is it provides plenty of opportunities to not explain why (commutativity, what multiplication is, how it connects with areas and volumes, ...). Calculators also allow stepping over an introduction to algorithms which would have come with long multiplication and division. Some schools still include deductive reasoning as a part of education. Others like to emphasize appeal to authority: "Because the calculator said so."

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: Calculators

          As every schoolboy knows a calculator enables you to display 80085

      3. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: <loud swearing noises>

        "Just as we were all allowed to use calculators in school (to the outraged howls of our elders) "

        I'm old enough that calculators were not used in math class, but we were required to have them in science classes since the emphasis there was science and not arithmetic. It is important to be able to do simple arithmetic in your head and set up and solve a simple equation on paper. I could make a mint working a till and counting back people's change in a way that rips them off blind. The basic training for that was working a till way back when they weren't electronic and you'd put in the money received and it would tell you the change. Doing estimates quickly is also a very good skill. It lets you bracket what the answer should be so if you drop a decimal and it rolls off under the bench, you aren't making a large mistake. I love he joke in "The Rolling Stones" where the whole family is tasked to work out a rocket burn/orbit and the daughter is so far off that the ship is going FTL. She thought the numbers looked a bit large.

    3. Rafael #872397
      Holmes

      Re: declining educational standards

      I don't think the current government mindset (or many, many, many, many, many, many, many others) really wants more educated citizens. They may start to... think.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: declining educational standards

        They certainly don't want more educated citizens, but their paymasters do want ever more consumers so at some point they have to realise that AI doesn't buy anything and start reversing the trend of jobs -> AI

    4. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: <loud swearing noises>

      Ellison said that investing $500bn in AI could improve healthcare. I just asked ChatGPT and it said investing $500bn in public healthcare would have more widespread benefits than investing $500bn in AI. So even ChatGPT is cleverer than your average tech CEO.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: <loud swearing noises>

        I think Ellison would take exception to being called "average".

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: <loud swearing noises>

        "Ellison said that investing $500bn in AI could improve healthcare. I just asked ChatGPT and it said investing $500bn in public healthcare would have more widespread benefits than investing $500bn in AI. So even ChatGPT is cleverer than your average tech CEO."

        You don't even need AI to sort that out. There could could also be a massive savings if a woman couldn't sue a hospital for undue and unjust pain during childbirth. It's happened more than once and juries can be happy to hand out loads of dosh. It's a shame gramps died at 87, let's sue the tobacco companies since he died of lung cancer after smoking all of his life........$10mn.

        Just asking AI will lead to more farm animals that get herded from pasture to barn to the abattoir. So much of solving a problem is knowing how to analyze the problem in the first place. How one sets up the problem, etc. If you lose that, you have no idea if an answer you are handed is worth anything.

        If you have money to spend, would you be better replacing your diesel car with an EV or installing solar panels on the house (assumptions, of course). There's no obvious answer so you have to look at the numbers and also make sure you take everything into account. One way I learned recently and that was ROI. For a car, that's negative since it depreciates. On a solar, it could be a 10% annual return(10/yr) payback period, but that savings is also not taxable. If you put the same money in a long term deposit account, you may earn 3.5% and that would be taxable which lowers the net return. From a rough knowledge of having run the numbers loosely, a 10yr payback is probably an indicator that the system isn't sized properly. Since I didn't consider the tax angle, I'm needing to run the numbers for my situation again and see what it looks like.

    5. graeme leggett Silver badge

      Re: <loud swearing noises>

      the 1.5 trilion USD for F-35 program covers from now to 2088.

  5. JWLong Silver badge

    I think I'll wait

    Until someone comes out with something that is Intelligent!

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge

      Re: I think I'll wait

      Seven and a half million years later ...

      1. Dinanziame Silver badge
        Angel

        Re: I think I'll wait

        You're really not going to like it

      2. David Hicklin Silver badge

        Re: I think I'll wait

        The problem here is that AI is a solution looking for a problem, just as Deep Thought came up with the answer (42) but had to ask "but what is the question?"

    2. the spectacularly refined chap

      Re: I think I'll wait

      Until someone comes out with something that is Intelligent!

      I can buy a goldfish at my local pet shop. I'm sure there is somewhere similar near to you.

    3. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: I think I'll wait

      You will be waiting a long time. Politicians have spent decades not funding education. Would more evidence to you need that they do not want any kind of intelligence.

  6. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

    Why do I get the impression that this sort of spat is going to end up with OpenAI being the losers here, big time.

    Oh well, time to open the popcorn, I guess.

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Why? Trump likes them because they're spending money and he's taking credit for the investment. Musk isn't going to be throw up any roadblocks to something with this much money behind it.

      Musk is just being made to look like a clown. Trump probably likes it because he has reportedly been growing tired of Musk hanging around all the time, and is especially upset when people refer to him as "president Musk" lol! Trump likes it when people are fighting around him, because at heart he views the whole presidency as one big reality TV show.

      1. Cris E

        Google and Meta are writing their own AI, but MS is paying big dollars to have OpenAI carry their water. And with the Saudis also throwing down behind OpenAI Don is not going to trash the friend of a paying friend. So Elon is going to have to learn to share the sandbox with all the Donfather's other friends.

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        As I've said before, Mush has spend the last few months putting him in exactly the right place to take the blame as soon as it becomes necessary to have someone to take the blame. He just hasn't worked that out yet.

        1. UnknownUnknown Silver badge

          Esp. When slashing the Fed budget - and the job losses that entails inc Republican staffers - by USD$2Tn is orders of magnitude much harder than fucking a few thousand people off at Twitter.

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Its actually not hard to cut $2 trillion from the budget

            Do it the way that they cut trillions in taxes - by counting it over a decade rather than over a single budget year.

      3. Gary Stewart Silver badge

        "Musk is just being made to look like a clown."

        Just like Trump he is perfectly capable of and has on many occasions done that himself.

        1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

          Just like Trump he is perfectly capable of and has on many occasions done that himself

          Have either of them fallen off a bicycle yet? Any proper clown should be able to do a few pratfalls..

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "is about building useful things for the real world!" So what does AI have to do with that?

  8. beast666 Silver badge

    Expecting cope and seethe from the usual suspects that we previously thought unimaginable.

    1. sabroni Silver badge
      WTF?

      re: Expecting cope and seethe from the usual suspects that we previously thought unimaginable

      Go on, elighten us. What the fuck are you actually trying to say?

      I'm guessing "the libs will be upset by this" by tbh I'm clutching at straws.

      The usual suspects were unimaginable? Is that a typo?

      1. lglethal Silver badge
        Go

        Re: re: Expecting cope and seethe from the usual suspects that we previously thought unimaginable

        That's Chat GPT output right there.

        The words are all there, it looks like it should mean something, but the sentence itself is actually gibberish. Just convincing looking gibberish...

    2. Casca Silver badge

      You got that sentence from an AI?

  9. IGotOut Silver badge
    FAIL

    Dear ChatGPT

    Given their current ages, when can we hope they all fucking die, hopefully alone and in pain while their offspring tear each other to pieces over the money, whilst ignoring their bloated rotten corpses.

    1. Ace2 Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Dear ChatGPT

      Ignored? I would be ok with the neglected housecats having a go at the leftovers.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Dear ChatGPT

        What did those poor cats ever do to you ?!?

  10. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    "Saudi Arabia says it wants to put $600 billion into the United States over the next four years, though where exactly was not disclosed."

    It's that Place over in Slice again, isn't it?

    1. Pete 2 Silver badge

      > where exactly was not disclosed

      trump's back pocket?

    2. m4r35n357 Silver badge

      Well it went great for UK Premiership Football, and it is about to do the same to F1. So look out America.

  11. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Ante up

    > I'm good for my $80 billion

    Basically just a game of billion dollar poker.

    See who folds first.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Ante up

      Yeah, he says it like it's not an obscene amount of money. How much do you need? $80B? Sure, we can do that. Just say if you need more.

  12. MalIlluminated

    Let the influence peddling commence!

  13. JugheadJones

    great news

    The fallout has started already , I knew it wouldn't take long, it could start like his first term did with 43% of senior white house positions being turned over, historically one of the highest. Let the diagreements begin!

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: great news

      And only a week ago I was reading that this time the transition team was a lot better prepared.

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Re: great news

        Did it say 'how' they were better prepared?

        It may include providing a handful of hyper egos to distract attention.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: great news

          They were better prepared than 8 years ago. That was a pretty low bar.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Fusion

    With this kind of money, we could *actually get* viable fusion energy.

    Sigh.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
      Devil

      Re: Fusion

      Who needs fusion? With $100 billion dollars, you could just convert your coal power stations to be dollar-bill-fired. OK, they emit a bit of CO2 - but it's paper-based, so renewable.

      I believe I've just invented perpetual motion. Can I have my Nobel Prize now please? I'll take it in cash. Kerching!

  15. itsborken

    Three card monty is back in vogue

    Of course, the three will take side bets.

  16. Winkypop Silver badge
    WTF?

    Faaaaark

    I grew up during the Apollo era. I was inspired and influenced by truly smart men and women who had amazing skills and vision. They didn’t need to brag, fight each other or prostitute themselves for publicity.

    This current crop of wankers are the complete opposite. May they flame out on final approach.

  17. Bebu sa Ware
    Facepalm

    Just a wee spat...

    down at the Cauliflower Trust although it's difficult to decide whether these clowns are pinching their lines from Brecht or Jarry but I guess from both with lashings of ham ad-libbing.

    "All the world's a stage...one man...the whining school-boy...Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel, Seeking the bubble reputation...Is second childishness and mere oblivion" (As You Like It. act ii scene vii)

  18. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

    I just thought of a problem AI can solve!

    What to do with all the gas, oil and coal Trump is going have dug up.

    1. Mike007 Silver badge

      Re: I just thought of a problem AI can solve!

      I asked ChatGPT if we had unlimited fossil fuels what would be the best way to utilise that resource.

      It gave 9 suggestions. None of them mentioned AI. Even ChatGPT knows there are better uses for such a resource.

  19. codejunky Silver badge

    Hmm

    Reading that it doesnt sound like anything was torched and a discussion of lots of private money being splurged on the latest fad. Trumps response sounded good though

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Hmm

      Hmm, TDS?

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This sums it up ...

    https://newsthump.com/2025/01/23/elon-musk-forced-to-sleep-on-sofa-after-lovers-tiff-over-stargate/

  21. rgjnk Bronze badge
    Devil

    Scumbag on scumbag violence

    In a fight between Musk and Altman I hope they both lose.

    The only reason they fight so much is because they're both narcissistic grifting scumbags lost in a cloud of their own self identified genius while trying to grab all the cash they can with an endless stream of hype.

    You might think that would make them brothers in arms but in reality they hate a recognisable rival like that at a truly visceral level.

    Sooner or later their egos will make them crash & burn and it'll be so much fun to watch.

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  22. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

    Ah, Satya

    Nadella: "And all this money is not about hyping AI, but is about building useful things for the real world!"

    In other words, the money is about hyping (fake) A.I.

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