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Microsoft is widening the rollout of the Recall Preview to include Dev Channel Windows Insiders running AMD and Intel-based Copilot+ PCs. The update arrived with build 26120.2510 of Windows 11 and means more Insiders – not just those with Arm-compatible Qualcomm Snapdragon-powered Copilot+ PCs – will be able to join in the …

  1. navarac Silver badge

    We knew this was coming....

    It'll be all over the place soon. No thank you Microsoft. We don't need this, thanks very much.

    (Trying to be polite - YMMV) !!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: We knew this was coming....

      It is all you MS uses a little Crimble present from Big Brother. Don't like it? You know what to do....

      If you stay with MS and all this shite not only gets installed without your approval, and activated then you deserve all that you get and it won't be nice.

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  2. b0llchit Silver badge
    Black Helicopters

    Bad ideas must be good for someone

    Why do they keep pushing this obviously extremely intrusive and Bad IdeaTM? There must be some hidden agenda at play here.

    No sane person would ever want to add yet another level of intrusion, which will end up in Microsoft's machine learning inbox and definitely will be accessed by any and all Three Letter Agencies (and equivalents) all over the world.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Bad ideas must be good for someone

      Don't forget large corporations that want to spy on employees without the expense of third party logging tools.

      1. Richard 12 Silver badge

        Re: Bad ideas must be good for someone

        If they talk to any lawyers, they will run away screaming.

        Legal discovery would include all the snapshots.

    2. Snake Silver badge

      Re: Bad ideas must be good for someone

      Thr "hidden agenda" is to sell PC's. The industry isn't worried about types like us; Microsoft is trying to create a need for the 'AI PC's" that World+dog are out to push to get the computer industry out of the sales doldrums. Since the entire industry is betting its sour hopes on a hype, Microsoft needs to be there to try to create a desirable usage paradigm that will get people & businesses to open their wallets.

      1. Sceptic Tank Silver badge
        Childcatcher

        desirable usage paradigm

        Is the corp speak generator still running?

        1. Snake Silver badge
          Holmes

          Re: corp speak generator

          Hey, I'm only talking to truth, don't shoot the messenger.

          The hype cycle is to sell product. The industry is trying to create a "need" to sell the hype, and to have everyone buy it they have to buy into it - the great unwashed need to believe the hype in order to get their (naive) pockets open.

          Welcome to late stage capitalism. You're gonna just love it here! [/s]

    3. Wade Burchette

      Re: Bad ideas must be good for someone

      I am convinced that Microsoft has a fetish for AI right now because they know in their history they have missed on some big moneymaking ideas. For example: Windows Phone was a knee-jerk reaction to iPhone and Android; it failed badly. Zune was a knee-jerk reaction to iPod; it failed badly. Bing is a knee-jerk reaction to Google; it is still struggling against Google both in market share and performance.

      Microsoft doesn't want to be left behind again. So they are doubling down -- actually quadrupling down -- on what the know-nothing know-it-all's say is the next BIG thing. While AI will have its uses, for the vast majority of people it will be useless.

      I have decided to once a week to offer a polite suggestion through Microsoft's feedback hub telling them how we, the users of Windows, do not want Co-pilot or anything AI in any form. I even told them that I am willing to pay to make it go away. Maybe if we organize a polite "AI GO AWAY" spamming campaign on the feedback hub, Microsoft will finally get it through their thick skull how unwanted this is. (It must be polite, otherwise it goes straight to the trash bin.)

    4. Tron Silver badge

      Re: Bad ideas must be good for someone

      There is a reason it is being rolled out at the same time as end to end encryption. Snapping endless pics of the screen is the obvious workaround for government agencies.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Old trick to stop

    I wonder if the old trick of zapping the folder it wants to write to, to create a file with the same name and no extension and to then set that files ACL so it cannot be touched by anything would work ?

  4. Mentat74
    Stop

    So more and more PC's...

    Are getting infected with spyware ?

    How long before someone creates a nice simple tool to remove all that crap ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So more and more PC's...

      > format c:\

      works a treat (sometimes)

      1. captain veg Silver badge

        Re: So more and more PC's...

        Hmm. Haven't tried it, but presumably you end up with a bricked PC. Which might be more productive that Windows 11, but less useful than inserting a bootable medium containing something like Linux Mint and rebooting (and doing whatever is required by your firmware to get the machine to boot off the medium).

        -A.

  5. captain veg Silver badge

    er, what?

    'Microsoft said: "With the AI capabilities of Copilot+ PCs, it's now possible to quickly find and get back to apps, website, image, or document just by describing its content."'

    Some kind of grammar failure there. Was it written by a human?

    -A.

    1. Sceptic Tank Silver badge
      Windows

      Re: er, what?

      Sirius Leigh? So there are people out there who will ask Coke & Pie Lot: "Please help me: I was using an application earlier to solve mathematical problems. Can you bring it back for me?" And CoPilot brings the Calculator app to the foreground. Handy stuff, this, man!

  6. tiago.pelicari

    Are they gonna recall the Recall?

    I wounder how performance and storage size are going to be with that running.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Are they gonna recall the Recall?

      Well you'll need a the latest and greatest pc apparently, so that answers that question.

      1. Christopher Reeve's Horse

        Re: Are they gonna recall the Recall?

        I'm personally waiting for Total Recall. Or maybe this is all just a dream?

  7. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge
    Stop

    Yeah nah

    I'm all good thanks

  8. Groo The Wanderer

    I do NOT want "Windows Recall" anywhere NEAR my systems. Combined with the MANDATORY secure id key public key half of the cipher, the NSA and any other authority in the US now has the technical capability to surreptitiously monitor any and all PCs in North America that have WIndows 11 installed, in any size, shape, or form, save for Windows Server, where the secure key infrastructure remains optional.

    That is a LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE IDENTIFIER FOR THE OWNER OF ANY SCREENSHOTS THEY CHOOSE TO UPLOAD FROM YOUR SYSTEM. And the odds are in the corporate world, your boss and the security goons now have the same capability to monitor and prove what you are actually DOING with your time at work.

    Welcome to 1984, people. The USA thinks its a guideline, not a warning. Stupid @$)@& fools...

    This morning in the wee hours of 2024-12-09, I opted to nuke my Windows 11 Pro boot partition and its games, and reformat it for use under Ubuntu 24.04. I then did the ever popular magic "sudo update-grub" to remove the no-longer-existing Windows boot EFI entry from the boot manager.

    I'm already losing games from Rockstar because I lost access to an old email account - why not scrap the 10% that don't run properly under Steam with Linux while I'm at it? I also lose my GOG games, but there were only 7 I had installed, and I hadn't actually played any of them in ages, just configured them and set them up - over and over as I shuffled systems around and redid drive locations and game libraries over the past years since building the initial core of what has become my current box through judicious upgrades the whole life of its existence.

    But I digress.

    Bye-bye, Bill, Satya, any and all things Microsoft...

    My only regret is Ubuntu is hosted on US soil, and clearly the NSA have more hooks out there than we ever dreamed... but I certainly wouldn't want to try to shoehorn the NVidia tensor stack onto a Debian box that doesn't support that type of stuff by default...

    1. Groo The Wanderer

      Turns out that a) I forgot about my Microsoft X-Box controller, which I wouldn't trade for anything except a replacement with same, and b) it turns out the Halo collection runs just fine with Proton Experimental... I never did get around to playing it, despite owning it for at least a couple of years. I've only ever finished few enough games to count them on my fingers, and that gets cut in half if you don't want to count the Quake II mission packs as separate games.

    2. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck

      It strikes me that the public SSH key generated and made available for a node as soon as sshd is enabled serves much the same identification purposes.... but it's not quite so easy to infect the whole Linux ecosystem to upload screenshots, is it?

  9. Sceptic Tank Silver badge
    Big Brother

    It looks like you are typing a Bash command. I would like to help.

    How long before this toxic effluent starts bleeding into the Linux ecosystem? If it happened with systemd it can happen again.

  10. blu3b3rry
    Devil

    So although we have software-breaking issues in Outlook and Windows 11....

    It's fine guys, don't mind that basic software functionality is broken. Look at the new AI-powered shiny you didn't need!

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