back to article Chinese boffins find way to use diamonds as super-dense and durable storage medium

Researchers at China's University of Science and Technology published research this week in which they detail how they achieved record-breaking storage density of 1.85 terabytes per cubic centimeter by encoding information in diamonds. To put it in context, advanced hard disk drives can achieve around one terabyte per cubic …

  1. ocelot

    I think 1978 should be 1878 for Muybridge's capture of a moving horse.

    1. Bebu sa Ware
      Coat

      Last century, last century...

      "I think 1978 should be 1878 for Muybridge's capture of a moving horse."

      Yes. I suspect a lot of wagers were lost at the time. ;)

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Horse_in_Motion

  2. Paul Herber Silver badge
    Alien

    I hope the diamonds that were used for testing were checked before use. What if The Ancients had already used that diamond to store Ultimate Truths, or some aliens using it to store the original design plans for the universe. These plans have to kept somewhere.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      I think you'll find the plans for the universe on display in the basement inside a locked filing cabinet with a sign on the door saying, "beware of the leopard".

      1. Spherical Cow Silver badge

        Dammit, I didn't realise your comment was already on 42 likes until after I clicked Like. Sorry for the like.

    2. Eclectic Man Silver badge

      I wonder ...

      ... what would happen if a miner dug up a Diamond or Zircon that had been cut by some entity millions of years ago? Cut gemstones are some of the few things that humans have created that really could last millions of years, and pass through a geological subduction zone and out again without much damage.

  3. Richard 12 Silver badge

    Diamond WORMs

    And Turquoise daze.

    It doesn't sound like it's possible to re-write, anyway.

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Diamond WORMs

      Well played, sir!

  4. Lord Elpuss Silver badge
    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      ...and wasn't IBM dabbling with this sort of technology decades ago? Not diamond, but some form of crystal IIRC. I guess they never got it to work in any sort of useful way.

      1. trindflo Silver badge

        Are you thinking of magnetic bubble memory by Texas Instruments? They got it working, but like many things at TI, the engineers lost interest once it was working. It was only marginally margketed and never made it into production to any degree.

        1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          No, but this might be what I was thinking of.

  5. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Coat

    Wow

    Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal ?

    1. Jedit Silver badge
      Devil

      "Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal?"

      Imagine accidentally making an engagement ring containing your pr0n collection...

      1. Rich 11

        Re: "Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal?"

        That would either be very bad or very good for your relationship.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal?"

          very good if you want a 'Solo One' type relationship. My name is Han, Han Pr0nsolo.

      2. I am David Jones Silver badge
        Angel

        Re: "Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal?"

        I was thinking more along the lines of a marriage proposal with the small print stored on the diamond.

        “By wearing this ring, the holder (henceforce “WIFEY’) agrees to …..”

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "Is that a USB key, or a marriage proposal?"

        Could be a new trend in rings... Give a ring to someone, and then say"You are my pr0n collection".

    2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Wow

      Prenup

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Diamonds are highly stable by nature"

    But easy to chip. We used pairs of diamond dies (industrial diamonds cut as flat-topped pyramids, rather like Tudor gen-sones) for IR spectroscopy of short* lengths of fibre. They needed careful alignment before applying pressure. A colleague had a slight accident which spalled of a substantial proportion off of one of them.

    * Short in most people's terms, fairly long in ours.

    1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

      Like all crystals, diamonds have fracture planes. They are very hard in some ways, but can shear.

      "While diamonds are exceptionally hard, they are not immune to damage. One key vulnerability lies in their crystal structure. Diamonds can split along specific planes of weakness, which is why diamond cutters meticulously study the gem's structure to maximize its brilliance while minimizing the risk of fractures."

      From: https://www.jamesandsons.com/blog/can-a-diamond-chip-or-break#:~:text=Diamonds%20can%20split%20along%20specific,upon%20encountering%20a%20strong%20impact.

      They are also not usable to cut steel or iron as they get hot and you get iron carbonates forming where the diamond reacts with atmospheric oxygen and the iron. See: https://cadem.com/why-diamond-tools-cannot-cut-steel/

      Still, very impressive density of information storage achieved

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        I think it was in the course of organising a replacement for the damaged die that my colleague was on the phone to the states - a rare thing in those days - talking to what he took to be a very small company producing such a specialized piece of laboratory kit. Given that USians aren't renowned for appreciating irony let alone Belfast humour making a joke about supposing he worked for de Beers in his other job wasn't a good idea.

  7. Peter Galbavy

    So, 2TB micro SD cards are how much volume? I am not sure what's novel here - or is it the WORM nature of the feat?

    1. ChrisC Silver badge

      Using the bounding box dimensions for a MicroSD card (15x11x1mm) gives a volume of 0.165 cm3, so with 2TB per card now, that gives 12.1TB/cm3...

      ..which, quite frankly, is insane. I mean, even being able to shovel 2TB of data onto something the size of a fingernail still blows my mind, but the thought of being able to store 12TB in the space taken up by a sugar cube or a D6, when it really wasn't all *that* long ago being able to store even 1GB on a 3.5" hard drive was every bit as mind blowing at the time, really does make me stop and think about just how far we've come in such a short period of time, and what sort of similar mind blowing technological advances are yet to come over the next few decades.

      1. ThatOne Silver badge
        Devil

        > think about just how far we've come in such a short period of time

        That's because Windows is ever-expanding. This staggering storage medium increase is the result of the race to leave the user a little bit of free space to store some files of his/her own...

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          "leave the user a little bit of free space to store some files of his/her own"

          I'm not sure that's allowed any more. Surely the correct version would be "leave the user a little bit of free space in which to donate some files to be used in whatever way the vendor wishes".

          1. Col_Panek
            Linux

            I have four generously sized Linux partitions on my 256 GB SSD, and the other half of it is data space.

            1. DrkShadow

              Four distros with 32GB each? Not so bad. My /usr is 18GB -- but /usr/portage is taking up 41GB(!).

              I've run some portable linux on similarly sized USB keys (32GB) with Devuan installs. It's convenient, these days 32GB is cheap, etc.

      2. Spamfast
        Coat

        And since we have all this space the software can be even more bloated and inefficient than every before!

        And we can store enough drivel & porn to keep us occupied for millenia.

        Bring back core storage, Hollerith cards and punched tape for backup I say.

        (I also miss pen plotters, especially when they catapulted a leaky pen across the drawing office. "Incoming!")

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Pen plotters. Mesmerising to watch.

          1. Goat Boy

            "Pen plotters. Mesmerising to watch."

            Agree 100%.

            When I left the tools and started in the CAD office we had a HP Draftmaster 2. Because the PC sending the data would lock up until the plot was complete I could stand and stare transfixed as it did its thing.

            I'm sure there was some logic in the way it'd organise the process but I couldn't figure it out. It'd do a section of text, leave an individual letter patially formed, swan off to a far corner and do some geometry there then get back and finish off the letter and the rest of the text after it. Utterly bonkers. Miss that noisy bastard.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "or a D6"

        I wonder if a D6 containing data would still be a fair die? Or would it be loaded?

        Also, imagine a future (lower-tech) civilization using our most advanced data storage devices as D6, having no idea about the valuable information they contain.

    2. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Most of an SD card is packaging and connectors. The actual chip or chips in the SD card, the actual silcon storing the data, are much smaller. And yes the total volume might be comparable, but see how long the data on an SD card lasts while storing it at 200C. See how long the card itself lasts.

      [Edit: my bad; the silcon itself having less volume does reinforce your point about density, but I stand by my longevity statement.]

      1. JamesTGrant Bronze badge

        Not sure I’m ever likely to complain about any tech I’m using if it ceases to be useful after being stored at 200degC

        I don’t think I’d work properly if I was stored at 200degC

  8. Mo64

    As described in the 60s sci-fi book series The Runestaff by Michael Moorcock

    1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

      And the Sci-Fi movie, Zardoz, starring John Alderton and Sean Connery, IIRC. The entire life experiences of people were held in a Diamond matrix.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        and by S. Lem in Return from the Stars

  9. thosrtanner

    This bit: "High-speed readout is demonstrated with a fidelity of over 99 percent, according to the boffins." doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. How many parity diamonds are you going to need to get something a bit more usable?

    1. vtcodger Silver badge

      How many parity bits?

      "How many parity bits are you going to need ..."

      I think Hamming discussed that in "Numerical Methods for Scientists and Engineers" back in the early 1960s. My copy went missing about five moves ago in the early 1990s. I don't recall the details very well, but I think the answer might be surprisingly few check bits are needed for error correction even after allowing for the check bits sometimes being wrong.

      Someone around here probably knows the answer off the top of their head. Maybe we'll hear from them.

    2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      All mass storage has lots of errors, thats why Solomon Reed etc was invented and is used everywhere.

      Take cds which are similar to diamonds, the actual data stored is only have the available bits due to error correction and encoding limitations.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I wish I was a ring

    Upon my lovers hand

    Then every time she

    wipes her arse

    I could upload to the promised land

  11. Brave Coward

    'Looks better on your beloved's finger than a Blu-ray, too'

    ... especially considering what a hard drive it has been to convince him/her to marry you!

  12. Gene Cash Silver badge

    As usual, there's an XKCD for that

    A couple, actually:

    https://xkcd.com/691/

    https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/

  13. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    The problem with storage media with life of longer than a few decades is that even if the hardware to read it is still available the file formats will be long deprecated.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Yes, came here to exactly that. "millions of years of allegedly maintenance-free storage." Yeah? What about the r/w kit?

      1. James 51

        When I worked in an outsoircing office foe a US firm I was told we had floppy disks of every programme released (this was back in the 90s). I asked about reading them. Was told it was a legal thing, we had to have the disks, we didn't have to habe the hardware to read them.

    2. vtcodger Silver badge

      I think straight ASCII text and ALGOL math notation might be good for more than a few decades. Probably Unicode as well. We can, after all, read many 2000 year old and older documents. The problem for the most part isn't the content, but deterioration of the media. Heck, in High School I was forced to spend an unconscionable amount of time reading Ceasar's commentaries on the Gallic War in the original Latin. In retrospect, Spanish would have been more useful.

      But you're right, Microsoft er. al. will undoubtedly do their damndest to deprecate anything simple that actually works. They seem to be rather better at that sort of thing than at quality control.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Blu-ray discs, which have similar storage density, can last longer.

    and the re-writeable CDs, remember those? They were sold as lasting "100 years!!!"

  15. Pete 2 Silver badge

    I'll stick with SSDs

    > 1.85 terabytes per cubic centimeter

    Diamond weight / size is measured in Carats. With one carat being 200mg (one six-hundredth of a cheeseburger, for anyone who still uses old-fashioned units). Diamond has a density of about 3.5gm / cm³. So we are talking about a rock of 17.5 carats, around $1.5mn

  16. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    Diamonds as storage?

    Please don't. It will just give Customs and Border Patrol an excuse to confiscate jewlery on the pretense that it could be used for smuggling intelligence info or kiddie porn. The way they seize cash now. Because of a remote probablity of drug trafficking, despite the absence of probable cause.

  17. Wang Cores

    A better plotline for Diamonds Are Forever?

    "Bond," M chirps in 007's earpiece, "Ms. Moorefanny's family specializes in data storage. The plans are on the ring in her father's tomb."

    "I've never been a fan of a cold opening." Bond murmurs.

  18. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    Finally we can archive in a safe and secure manner for time indefinite all the content on social media. This data will prove invaluable for future generations.

  19. Sceptic Tank Silver badge
    Pirate

    An even harder drive.

    So if it's difficult to delete things from GitHub, can you imagine the world of hurt you'll be in if you accidentally wrote you API keys / private keys to a Diamond™ DriveⓇ and it's good for millions of years?

    And I cannot think of a more effective encouragement for somebody to steal your data: Palooka breaks into your house, finds a box of diamonds sitting on the desk. Off goes terabytes of data in one fell swoop.

    And you've encrypted all your precious secret data gems on your Crystal Carbon™ device using the latest DES tool available. 10 years from now quantum computing is the norm and it takes a fraction of a nanosecond to decipher everything you have.

  20. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

    I'm no expert on diamonds, but I'm guessing a 1 cubic CM diamond would be a little bit more expensive than an SSD with similar capacity...

  21. CR

    Altered carbon...

    ...someone?

POST COMMENT House rules

Not a member of The Register? Create a new account here.

  • Enter your comment

  • Add an icon

Anonymous cowards cannot choose their icon

Other stories you might like