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The premium price of AI PCs and a lack of killer applications are leading to some confusion among customers who want to upgrade their aging estates ahead of Windows 10 support ending. So says a senior Gartner analyst who asked The Register recently if we are also hearing that businesses are still "delaying" signing off …

  1. LVPC

    >> "Businesses want to move to AI PCs but not pay a premium as there are no compelling business cases,"

    Obviously not true that businesses "want to move to AI PCs" or they'd be doing so. Same as Windows 11 is still in the dumps, because it doesn't do anything new that they need.

    For myself, can't wait until 10 is no longer updated - no more attempts to sneak copilot on board. I'm just going to image the system drive next year and let my 3-month-old game machine/work pc sail on uninterrupted by evil "updates" that aren't. Same as 11 isn't an update I'm willing to waste more time on after 2 really buggy experiences.

    Businesses will buy the extended support for 10 just to avoid the pain of upgrading, because if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    1. Guy de Loimbard Silver badge

      Exactly what I was thinking.

      Where's the evidence of Businesses want to move to AI PCs ? Just because Gartner says so?

      Seems like someone's trying to be relevant and it's not.

      There's no rush to have AI anything as far as I can see in my experience to date.

      I won't be rushing to get an AI phone either, as it sounds about as useful as a 3D TV does right now.

      1. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

        They just want the stickers for their collection

        FOMO? Higher ups think everybody else is doing it and so they don't want to be left out?

        "Yes, of course we're doing AI. Look around, we're all using 'AI PC's!"

      2. zimzam

        Gartner Maths

        "Businesses want to upgrade" + "Manufacturers are only making AI PCs" = "Businesses want AI PCs".

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Gartner Maths

          "customers want online banking" = "banks closing branches" + "customers having to do online banking"

          "customers wanting smart meters" = 'business removing non-metered options" + "customers having to use smart meters".

          btw, didn't work out with 3D tvs and 'blockchain everything', but hey, if you don't succeed, repack your turd and try again.

          1. MyffyW Silver badge

            Re: Gartner Maths

            Vendor: Keep polishing

            Customer: But it's going all over the cloth, and it's on our hands, and it smells of .... eh ..well you know, sh1t

            Analyst Company: Keep polishing

            Customer: Sod this, I'm installing Debian

      3. CJatCTi

        It's the same with the car industry busy making expensive models that customers don't want then being surprised when the punters won't part with the cash and they are left with stock nobody wants.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          "A car with 2 doors, 3 cylinders, 4 seats, and 5 speeds was enough for all the roads in 1984... And it still is in 2024." If they sold one like this today I'd buy it. At least some of the car add-ons since then have been a value add. Like it or lump it, there's a strong use case for:

          Fuel injection

          Automatic transmission

          Power windows

          AC

          Bluetooth radio

          Automatic emergency braking

          Lane keeping

          Maybe even limited self driving

          What's the use case for AI addons? Ooh, I get to hear my colleague cuss at the "automatic meeting summary email" feature? I wonder where those records got sent.

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Shouldn't that read "Businesses can't be arsed if they move to AI PCs or not, but if it's free they're not going to turn it down"?

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        This is only the case if a 5-15% uplift in the price of and AI PC over a non-AI one counts as free.

        In the future, vendors may jack the price of non-AI PCs to try to make the AI upgrade appear "free".

        1. LVPC

          Replace the NPU with more general purpose cores and I'll pay the non-AI "premium."

          1. ICL1900-G3 Silver badge

            To be honest, my 12 year old running Debian does all I need, as does my 14 year old running Mint. Sure, that's just me, but I bet there are an awful lot in the same position.

            1. MyffyW Silver badge

              Too true - when I first got my own x86 PC it was patently much more functional than PCs from 10 years previously. But these days a box from the previous decade will do everything I need. Why would I pay a premium to upgrade? I have no desire to do all the Generative AI bullshit, but even if I did I could always spin something up in the cloud and prove it there first.

              When there is a killer app, maybe I'll get an AI PC. Though there is a non-zero chance I'll be drawing my pension before that.

        2. Blogitus Maximus
          Terminator

          The question is, will the 15% markup translate into 15% productivity uplift and thus an excuse to fire 15% of the staff, increase fat-cat bonuses by 15% and move at least 15% of the profits to an offshore account thus avoiding 100% of the tax.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It's just marketing to sell boxes right now. There is a desperate need now to make some 'killer feature' that will have punters (business and private) lining up to buy new hardware. And right AI is that McGuffin. Phone design has peaked out for the tech we have right now, PC design peaked about 10yr ago when processors got to a certain level of power.

      Really, in terms of software or software processing here isn't anything left to get to, everything is powerful enough, fast enough, does everything you need. changes of OS are just to give comopanies like MS eomthig to sell. lets be honest laregely they could still be slinging an updated version of XP and 99% of people would be happy.

      Until they have laptops with lightweight, roll out 72" screens, etc there is nothing left I will want in a new laptop/PC unless the kit I have is broken.

      AI isn't a selling point to me, if I want to use AI I already can on my 5yr old laptop with a descrete GPU chip but the exec board have drunk the coolaid and think AI is going to be the thing (because they are grasping for anything) to let them continue the 15% profit growth shareholders demand.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        " Phone design has peaked out for the tech we have right now, PC design peaked about 10yr ago when processors got to a certain level of power."

        power being the operative word. There's a lot of milage in reducing the energy consumption on both the above items

        Things don't have to do MORE eveyr generation, quite often doing the same work with LESS is a good thing too

    4. big_D Silver badge

      Yes and no... We are planning to move to Windows 11, even if we have put it off for as long as possible. Insurance and industry compliance mean that we will have to upgrade most of our PCs to Windows 11 (a few PCs running legacy software and isolated from the office network, let alone the Internet, will have to remain, but everything network connected needs to be upgraded).

      We are currently looking at what needs replacing (basically anything pre-2018) and checking whether the rest need RAM upgrades, before rolling out Windows 11. The most critical thing for pushing the upgrades is Microsoft Teams...

      AI is low down on the list of things we need in the replacement PCs at the moment. The worst is, Intel released the "AI" PCs at the end of last year, but they were trumped by "Copilot + PCs" a couple of months later, which pretty much means most of the "AI" PCs from Intel and AMD in the channel were pretty much obsolete by the time they were released. Then Intel rushed its Lunar Lake to market and that appears to have problems. The new AMD Ryzen "Copilot+ in all but name" PCs look interesting, but struggle in many corporate environments, because they aren't Intel (the same for Snapdragon).

      Then the question is, if they could make such a huge leap forward in a matter of months, what is coming next year? And can Intel get Lunar Lake working smoothly (several reviews I've seen have complained about stability and power (battery life) issues with certain PCs, some of it could be resolved during the review period with BIOS/UEFI and driver updates, but it still isn't a good look for Intel.

      Also saying that Lunar Lake is a one-off and the next version won't be as integrated as Lunar Lake (and will therefore possibly suffer efficiency and speed penalties) doesn't exactly instill confidence.

      Intel really has done everything it can to scare users away from their AI processors in the last year or so...

  2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "there are no compelling business cases,"

    No killer apps. But if there were, what would they be killing?

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      The electricity supply?

    2. Mentat74
      Trollface

      Kittens ?

      (We all know A.I. image generation is only there to make p0rn...)

      1. el_oscuro
        Pirate

        Well they also make Iron Maiden videos.

        https://youtu.be/gKFm1gXVoaA

        But old fashioned humans make better ones.

        https://youtu.be/vA1oUEBIx94

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      re. No killer apps. But if there were, what would they be killing?

      jobs

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: re. No killer apps. But if there were, what would they be killing?

        It's going to kill off jobs whether it works or not. Board has already decided

    4. big_D Silver badge

      The need for the user in the first place...

  3. Khaptain Silver badge

    "Businesses want to move to AI PCs but not pay a premium as there are no compelling business cases"

    So they have a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and are surprised that business had other things to worry about.

  4. katrinab Silver badge
    Meh

    To the average person, "AI" means ChatGPT, and ChatGPT will work just fine[1] on their existing computer. So what are they actually selling?

    [1] OK, maybe not just fine, but the problems have nothing to do with client-side hardware and I think people will understand that.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

    See title.

    How does it differ from a regular PC, and what capability is it being sold as having beyond that of a non-AI PC?

    Why is there an assertion that consumers want these things if in the same sentence the speaker concedes that they see no value in it?

    1. alain williams Silver badge

      Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

      An AI PC is one that is compliant with the current marketing bullshit.

      For most people their current PC is plenty powerful enough to do what they want, so why go to the bother and cost of replacing it. That is good for users but bad for vendors hence the marketing nonsense. This is nothing new.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

        > An AI PC is one that is compliant with the current marketing bullshit.

        I've got a "TURBO" badge leftover from the 90's if that helps?

        1. Bebu sa Ware
          Windows

          Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

          "I've got a "TURBO" badge leftover from the 90's if that helps?"

          I once had a 286 PC with a turbo button which lit a led when in turbo mode.

          On tracing the wiring I found the only function the turbo switch implemented was to light the led. (A resister from the 5V supply to the led.)

          I don't imagine extra functions promised on an AI PC will be any more in evidence than with my turbo switch.

          A fraudulent go smarter switch v. a fraudulent go faster switch.

          1. martinusher Silver badge

            Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

            The purpose of the "TURBO" button was to change the clock speed. The original PC processor ran at 4.7MHz and a lot of early programs relied on this to manage timing. Processors stared to run at a scorching 8Mhz or even faster so this button was supposed to bump the clock speed up. It was called 'TURBO' because the Big Thing in cars in the 1980s was Turbochargers.

            By the time you got your PC processors ran at whatever speed they ran at . Cases were still being churned out with Turbo buttons, though, so I guess you got one. (It probably had a case lock on it, one of those that used a tubular key.)

            1. Alan Brown Silver badge

              Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

              Where a turbo switch was fitted it was usually to DEturbo the PC for those programs which wouldn't run on faster machines

      2. Ropewash

        Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

        "An AI PC is one that is compliant with the current marketing bullshit."

        I honesty see this as the latest 'Made for Windows Vista' moment. When do they roll out the freight trucks with adverts on the trailer?

        1. ITMA Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

          No no no.

          The ads wikll be plaastered on the sides of council shit carts where they belong.

    2. katrinab Silver badge
      Meh

      Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

      It has a Tensor Processing Unit, or possibly a GPU that can do CUDA or ROCm.

      1. Bebu sa Ware
        Windows

        Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

        "It has a Tensor Processing Unit, or possibly a GPU that can do CUDA or ROCm."

        In that case I imagine the CPU's embedded graphics hardware might eventually acquire GPU cores.

        Rather embarrassed to admit I reached old age without realising why I couldn't run my Xeon workstation without a graphics adaptor. ;)

        I always thought embedded graphics meant a separate adaptor soldered onto the board.

        1. katrinab Silver badge

          Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

          If you are going back about 30 years ago, then it did mean a separate adaptor soldered onto the board.

        2. collinsl Silver badge

          Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

          In that case I imagine the CPU's embedded graphics hardware might eventually acquire GPU cores.

          Already has some otherwise you'd not get any graphics output :-)

    3. Mentat74
      Joke

      Re: What in the heck even IS an AI PC?

      It's a PC blessed by Ed O'Neill...

  6. PCScreenOnly

    Businesses - really

    A lot of business buy decent machines that had a lot of useful features on that mean they can run W11. If I look at some Lenovo's, I am not sure about a T460, T470 / x240 and later definately can and they are quite old now - though still great devices. (some think the T460 can get to TPM 2.0 via a firmware update from what i read)

    Why would they upgrade ? It is not as if there are great leaps and bounds in processors or RAM once you get 16GB and an SSD. OK, SATA vs NME may add more of an improvement, but from rust to ssd is the big one.

    There is no killer PC app that needs to do AI

    Bit like phones, no real point in upgrading these days as they are always so similar to the last generation or the competition's phone there is no killer reason - better camera, can handle a microSD, better screen

    1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Businesses - really

      Lenovo's "AI" model laptop is named the "T2000", has voice I/O, and speaks English with a noticable German accent!

      1. Blogitus Maximus

        Re: Businesses - really

        Schnell, schnell, Kartoffelkopf!

        1. collinsl Silver badge

          Re: Businesses - really

          Natürlich ist Hans nass, er steht unter dem Wasserfall

  7. drand

    Must be bad

    For vendors to be unable to offload this shit onto businesses with a track record of wasting money on shiny tat end-users don't actually need, these AI PCs must really be something else.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Must be bad

      This isn't your father's snake oil! It's different! We swear!

  8. PCScreenOnly

    leaving Windows for a *nix

    Is a great idea, but if you have some apps that you use a lot, it can restrict you or make you wonder how to do it

    I want Sky Sports / Virgin Media. So unless I fudge a ChromeOS onto a machine to be able to install apps,it is not going to work. It was a faff to do, and as it is, I cannot remember if Sky Sports actually ran or not.

    I want Onedrive and to download all the data to my local machine (for backup reasons). I can fudge that with a couple of 3rd party apps for linux, but that does not run Sky Sports, but the Chrome OS I cannot see where it may even download the files from OneDrive too.

    So for me, to have a device that does sky/vrigin and onedrive is a challenge. I currently have a PC in the front room with this, which I use a lot when I am watching some sport in the quiet while other programmes are on that we watch together, and the one in the outbuilding is the only way to get sky/virgin on that TV. Don't fancy getting linux running to do Onedrive elements and then buying a table of some sort for the Sky. As it is I am not sure if there is a 15" tablet which is what my laptop screens are.

    1. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

      Re: leaving Windows for a *nix

      "I want Sky Sports / Virgin Media."

      Sky Now TV box is what you are looking for, I believe. Then it won't matter what OS is on your home computer.

  9. Inventor of the Marmite Laser Silver badge

    "Of the 1.5 billion PCs in use today, 30 percent are four years old or more."

    All those PCs can happily run Linux.

    1. Irongut Silver badge

      Most of them should be able to run WIn 11 too, assuming they don't have Michael Dell's name on the front.

    2. Alumoi Silver badge

      And Windows 11 if Microosft would remove that stupid hardware requirement.

      But noooo, we must tend to our hardware milkcow... erm, sorry, partners.

    3. Yankee Doodle Doofus Bronze badge

      I would be very interested to see those numbers broken down by market segment/user type. My org has over 90 percent (out of around 300-400 machines) that are at least 4 years old. I'm guessing home users as a group are also well over that 30% number.

    4. David Hicklin Silver badge

      So they are expecting some 450 million PC's to go to landfill in the name of Windows 11 and AI?

      What are they drinking!

  10. Irongut Silver badge

    A PC I built in mid-2019 is perfectly compatible with Win 11.

    How is it PCs built and sold by Dell in 2020 and 2021 are not? And, why isn't Michael Dell embarassed by this?

    1. sammystag

      Was it meant to be or is it planned obsolescence? The hardware requirements seem rather fishy to me. Not sure it takes a hardware upgrade to move the start menu to the middle of the task bar.

      1. Groo The Wanderer

        It was Dell unloading a backlog of no-longer-current hardware on a public that is too uneducated to know that they're being ripped off.

    2. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

      As is one built in 2011, if only Microsoft would allow it.

  11. TrevorH

    AI is to PC what 3D is to TV

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Reminds me of the fat-thin client 1990's

    Aside from the dearth of available business applications that can take advantage of local processing capability, what's the business case to spend at this level?

    Core business apps are - and will continue to be - in the cloud, the corporate data centre or on the internet.

    No company is going to want to double or triple their client costs just to speed up Mike in Accounts' excel spreadsheet calculations.

    1. DJO Silver badge

      Re: Reminds me of the fat-thin client 1990's

      Well of course not, this is the first generation of NPUs and like many examples of first generation kit it is crap, or at least not of significant utility.

      Any sensible business will be waiting to see how it goes and hold off for the second generation of NPUs which might actually be useful.

      Anybody buying an "AI" computer now is going to have a redundant box quite rapidly.

      Windows 10 is 9 years old, not new but not really ancient, it could easily be extended for a few years until the "AI" stuff has stabilised to either the "next great thing" or another abandoned waste of time and money.

      1. katrinab Silver badge
        Meh

        Re: Reminds me of the fat-thin client 1990's

        On Apple, their Apple Neural Engine means things like Live Text, Subject Lift, Centre Stage.

        They are useful features, but not ground-breaking.

      2. Zoopy

        Re: Reminds me of the fat-thin client 1990's

        "Windows 10 is 9 years old, not new but not really ancient, it could easily be extended for a few years until..."

        I'd argue that Windows 10 could be extended indefinitely.

        For what most people want from an OS, Windows 10 needs nothing more than security updates and hardware drivers.

    2. katrinab Silver badge
      Megaphone

      Re: Reminds me of the fat-thin client 1990's

      Going from an Ivy Bridge i7-3770 to a Threadripper Pro 3945WX speeded up my Excel Spreadsheet calculations from about 100ms to 10ms.

      That was faster as in, I could notice the difference, things felt a bit smoother, similar to going to a higher refresh rate monitor, but 100ms doesn't feel "slow" in that respect, even if I go back to it from the Threadripper.

  13. nobody who matters Silver badge

    <......."....as there are no compelling business cases...........".......>

    Perhaps because what we currently have maquerading as AI appears to be pretty crap at most of the things they might wish to do with it?

  14. Groo The Wanderer

    I predict a lot of businesses just installing Ubuntu or RedHat on their existing hardware...

    1. James Anderson Silver badge

      Never going to happen. The whole corporate world is locked in to word excel and PowerPoint. Plus there is always at least one specialised app that’s only available on windows and perhaps a bespoke application written to twindows aAPIs that’s just too much trouble to port. MS has them by the short and curlies.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    8 years old and going just fine

    My desktop is 8 years old and was not particularly powerful when purchased. I don't do particularly resource intensive work, but I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of business pc users have no need for more computing power than I do.

    My old desktop is chugging along just fine. I have no need for an "AI PC" - the same is true for pretty much anybody else. We could all save ourselves a few pennies, and save some natural resources, by just ignoring all this marketing bullshit.

  16. mostly average
    Joke

    When the hype blows over

    Do you think these newfangled "AI" PCs can mine Bitcoin?

  17. DS999 Silver badge

    This is just normal market turnover

    Only the latest x86 CPUs have AI, and they've only introduced the mid to high end SKUs for those latest x86 CPUs so far. There are no sub $100 SKUs of Zen 5 or Arrow Lake yet. As they fill in those lines there will be cheaper CPUs and eventually a couple years from now even Celerons will have "AI".

    So of course the prices will fall. Because you'll get fewer cores or slower cores or whatever. The price you pay for the same thing you're buying today is going to stay pretty much the same, as it always does.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The only time I 'upgrade' to a newer PC is when my current Windoze computer either expires or gets Win rot so bad it has become almost useless.

    So far, zero benefit to the average PC user and net loss instead as the focus on performance on the desktop is being replaced by subscriptions to cloud services, Centralized computing is the new hotness!

  19. O'Reg Inalsin

    The advantage of an AI Office PC over an AI Office App w/o AI-Office-PC?

    because there are already killer practical AI apps out there, e.g., for transcribing meetings which correctly identifying the speakers and summarize, and these can already be used without an AI PC.

    So it's not that are no killer practical AI-related apps, it's a question of the margin of improvement when using AI PCs.

    Assuming MS already has their version of a meeting transcriber, it needs to be optimized to work on an AI-PC, maybe offline. Have they not got to that stage yet?

  20. I am David Jones Silver badge

    Where are the desktop processors?

    I want to replace my aging PC, and as it should last 10+ years I do want it to at least meet Intel’s definition of an AI pc (NPUs with 40 TOPS off the top of my head; I’ll comfortably have enough RAM). (Even if I have no use case for AI right now.)

    But afaict there’s basically no choice when it comes to desktop processors. How long will I have to wait?

    I tend to go for a “buy expensive, keep as long as possible” PC but maybe it is time to swap to a cheap and cheerful interim solution. Or hope that some NPU extension card come onto the market. Ho hum.

  21. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Coat

    Meh

    My youngest machine is 7 years old. My 'office' one a mere 8 and the laptop is about 10 or 11. They all do exactly what I want them to, so I see absolutely no reason to replace any of them. I'll replace them when they fail... if I still need them.

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    AI PC?

    I’ll wait until they come out with “go fast” stripes.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What in the world is an "AI PC"? Rhetorical question - I don't want to know. All I know is that AI exists in data centers, not running on devices that consumers buy. Trying to run AI models locally is dead on arrival, if only because the models will have to be much smaller and thus much less capable than what can be done online. Anyway, if I bought some new PC that had some AI thing built in to it the very first thing I'd do is turn that feature off. I assume most consumers, and even more businesses, would do the same thing.

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ha! "AI"........

    .....that would mean a neural network....

    .....that would mean NVIDEA...

    .....that would mean importing some (stolen!) (large!) data model...

    ....oh....and by the way....neural networks CANNOT EXPLAIN THEIR CONCLUSIONS.....

    ....and that, of course, explains why NO ONE wants the software.....

    Just saying.....

  25. xyz123 Silver badge

    AI Pcs are WAY WAY WAY slower than non "ai" PCs. Recall etc drag the PC almost to a halt with constant SSDs writes not only occupying most of the throughput but shortening the life of the SSD to less than a year (in a GOOD case - 6months if a bad one).

    Contracts for purchase state enabling recall voids warranty on the NVME/flash storage so its "at your own risk" when you have to continually replace the drives in these machines because they've been chugging along writing crap to the drive 24/7.

    PLUS they can slow a PC down to an utter crawl. Nearly as slow as having a system infected with mcafee or norton.....

    Now imagine mcafee PLUS recall. 95% CPU usage when just sitting there on the desktop. 95% GPU usage constantly. and 80%+ of memory always "in use"

    1. NewModelArmy

      Do you have a link for any of the issues your described ? Thanks.

      My next purchase will be a Laptop. I will not be running Windows on the device, but with Linux, i could use the AI processor (NPU) to run calculations.

      1. druck Silver badge

        A NPU only does very low precision FP calculations, which are useless for anything other than useless AI.

  26. ITMA Silver badge
    Devil

    Gartner - Businesses want to move to AI PCs

    Bullshit.

    I think businesses would much rather not have to scrap shed loads of perfectly serviceable PCs and spend shed loads on new ones just because Microsoft says so.

  27. Ashto5

    HP elite book

    £295 on eBay add the £60 for the additional memory up to 32gb

    No other upgrade required for the next 10 years

    AI I just use bing it does what I ask no charge

  28. Tron Silver badge

    W10 PCs can do everything these companies need them to.

    Microsoft is forcing an upgrade by retiring W10. Should that be legal? Were these systems sold with a big sticker on them saying they would legally be insurable only as doorstops/e-waste at an artificial date in the future, just to pander to Microsoft's revenue stream.

    Actually, the title is not 100% accurate. It should read 'W7 PCs could do everything these companies need them to, if it wasn't for industry greed'.

  29. JoeCool Silver badge

    somethings gotta give. like the win11 hw spec ?

    i wonder if ms could become desperate enough to scrap the hw requirement, rake in those sweet upgrade profits, and throw their systems co-conspirators under the train?

  30. PhilipN Silver badge

    “ Gartner analyst who asked The Register “

    I trust El Reg stuck them with an invoice of an astronomical amount commensurate with what they would charge a client for answering the same question.

  31. Tubz Silver badge

    Something Gota Give, Yeh Your Wallet For The W11/AI Scam

    older PCs have NPUs to take advantage of latest AI PC advancements, and many of these devices don't meet the hardware requirements to update to Windows 11

    let me correct that statement

    olders pc don't need to have NPU or meet the hardware requirements to update to Windows 11, as they are perfectly capable of running todays software now and for the next few years on Windows 10 and if not Windows 10 now, then Linux for many years, except Microsoft and their manufacturing cartel buddies what to scam the public and business on features, gimmicks and toys that very few will ever use or need.

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