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Broadcom has made its desktop hypervisors freeware – even for production use. Not open source, but free stuff is still good, right? Broadcom's announcement may be bad news for Oracle’s VirtualBox desktop hypervisor, but we doubt that Big Red will lose much sleep over it. For everyone else out there that wants to run VMs on …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    VirtualBox 7 includes built-in support for USB 2 and 3 in VMs,

    VirtualBox got banned company wide here after somebody downloaded the addon to get direct USB support and Oracle's Nasgul descended on corporate IT dept.

    Handy when you work on Linux but some HW maker has a firmware update that only runs on Linux

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: VirtualBox 7 includes

      Oracle Java & Development kit, and Virtualbox Extension Pack are NSFW here, and the download link is blocked...

  2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

    "Desktop tools are, we suspect, not very lucrative any more."

    Tell that to Parallels who've moved to yearly, more expensive subscriptions, assuming that everyone on MacOS loves them.

    I think Broadcom is doing this to try and reverse some of the adverse PR it's licensing policy has caused and try and get small developers back on board. But, making it free, also allows them to drop support whenever they want.

    1. simpfeld

      Re: "Desktop tools are, we suspect, not very lucrative any more."

      You do wonder how much effort a free product is going to get now.....or left to wither.

    2. Ilgaz

      Re: "Desktop tools are, we suspect, not very lucrative any more."

      It took 3–4 days for me to get the Download working since I did something heretical as using Unicode characters (latin though) in my surname.

      Their "customer service" isn't the problem, I must say that they did a very impressive job of supporting an end user who has zero cent gain for the company. The problem is the company being a freaking enterprise/mainframe software vendor.

      Now imagine you are a developer and found/got bugged with something in the software. If you can, would it take what? Years to reach them?

      VirtualBox is another story, IMHO the Linux kernel team/end users/developers does pretty lame things like tainting kernel without any valid reason once you run their dkms/kmod.

  3. mickaroo

    Long Time VirtualBox User

    I been running Windows in a VBox VM since about Version 2, I think? (I still have the Win7 image)

    You say that VMware is more capable? I guess I'll have to kick the tires and take it out for a spin...

    1. thames Silver badge

      Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

      If you are running it on Linux, then you may wish to have a look at KVM as well. I recently switched from VirtualBox to KVM on Ubuntu 24.04, and have been very happy with it. I have been using it strictly for software testing, so I can't comment with respect to what it would be like to do daily work on it.

      I did find that I couldn't import my existing VirtualBox image into KVM qcow2 format. Theoretically it should be possible, but in practice the converted image didn't run. I was able to import an image meant for VMWare into KVM with no problems however.

      1. Gene Cash Silver badge

        Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

        I just recently switched to VirtualBox from QEMU/KVM, as after a system update, my Windows 10 guest started randomly hanging 10-30 minutes after starting.

        I note that when I removed it, it depended on 93 different packages. Probably more, as those are just the packages that apt said were no longer used by anything. That's quite a web of dependencies and I could not figure out which update caused the problem.

        1. thames Silver badge

          Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

          I switched to KVM from VirtualBox mainly because VirtualBox VMs were randomly hanging. The final straw was that after an update VirtualBox wouldn't run at all and it took several weeks for another update to fix that. I haven't had any problems at all with KVM so far. However, I had been using VirtualBox for years and my experience with KVM has been a matter of months so far.

          For what I'm using it for (software testing) both offer equivalent functionality. However, the virtual network connections for KVM were much easier to use than was the case for VB.

    2. DoContra

      Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

      Never really used VMWare, the biggest ticket feature when compared to VirtualBox is mature 3D virtualization[1] support on both Windows and GNU/Linux guests (AFAIK, VirtualBox only supports 3D Virtualization on Windows guests, QEMU/KVM only supports 3D virtualization on GNU/Linux guests and may not be quite stable yet).

      [1]: As in "translate 3D commands from the guest into the single GPU on the host", not "give this entire GPU to the guest OS"

      1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

        > AFAIK, VirtualBox only supports 3D Virtualization on Windows guests

        Nope. It works on both Windows and Linux; I've used it.

      2. man_iii

        Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

        From my experience 3d is emulated and not passthrough for single GPU devices unless your system has more than one GPU then you should be able to passthrough the pcie device to the VM that needs it.

        It's a shame that GPUs aren't overcommit capable for compute/memory like CPUs are right now. It might take a few years for that to happen.

        So far I haven't seen the ability to share single GPU across multiple VMs yet.

    3. Andrew Scott Bronze badge

      Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

      have been using virtualbox for years. had xp running in a window on xp at one time. Found on several occasions i could get something working using virtualbox that wouldn't run on vmware. Also vmware was licensed for a single year and you had to download a new copy at the end of the year. PITA to keep people updated. Wasn't a problem with virtualbox. Finally vmware used to install things by default which then had to be removed to get things working properly. Haven't found it all that much faster either in my use cases.

      1. Ilgaz

        Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

        It is way beyond my league to figure why, but the VMWare somehow manages to have almost native usb2/3 performance compared to VirtualBox if you use Windows hyperv native VM infrastructure.

        1. BFeely

          Re: Long Time VirtualBox User

          VMWare Workstation has full support for running under the Windows 10/11 hypervisor, but VirtualBox seems to be still very much broken.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Thank you

    For linking to https://matduggan.com/the-worst-website-in-the-entire-world/.

    For the two minutes I was reading it I felt... validated. Like my agonised screaming into the void had been acknowledged. How did our industry come to this?

    Oh, internet. I loved you, once.

    1. anothercynic Silver badge

      Re: Thank you

      Mat's right. That site is atrocious... took Broadcom over 4 months to 'validate' me... But I eventually got access to the downloads.

  5. Tim 11

    VirtualBox is much slower in my experience

    I used VirtualBox for a while but switched to VMWare because it seems much faster to me.

    However now I've moved to WSL2 which isn't quite a direct comparison, but it uses much less memory than a full VM and meets my needs

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: VirtualBox is much slower in my experience

      WSL2 _is_ a full VM. Just the guest kernel has been stripped down because it mostly only needs drivers for virtual devices. Hyper-V is smart enough to be dynamic about memory sharing between host and guest, which is a huge advantage over VBox. The other being that last I checked VBox couldn't handle avx instructions.

  6. david 12 Silver badge

    WSL

    WSL doesn't do either PCI passthrough nor USB passthrough.

    1. OSYSTEM

      WSL does do USB with uspibd

      Requires extra setup, but works for e.g. connect USB development boards, cameras, etc to Linux in WSL2

      See https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/connect-usb

  7. ecofeco Silver badge
    Alert

    The first hit

    ...is always free.

    I smell bait and switch baking like a turd on a hot sidewalk.

    1. Ilgaz

      Re: The first hit

      I don't think anyone reading The Register misses "free as in heroin" point here.

  8. sarusa Silver badge
    Devil

    But it's still Broadcom.

    And Broadcom are predatory arseholes. There's no way in heck they would do this out any sort of goodness of their black evil corporate hearts. Maybe it's just so they don't have to bother with it any more, but likely there's some catch to this that will pop up eventually, like suddenly making new installs subscription only again.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: But it's still Broadcom.

      Yep, one catch is that you have to register on their website if you want to download Workstation/Fusion for either personal or business use. So maybe one day they’ll decide to charge again.

  9. Fred Daggy
    Devil

    Halo effect? Shamalo effect

    I can almost NOT see a company of reasonable size, that is all virtuous that i would be happy to do business with. In almost all cases, you're doing a deal with the devil.

    Oracle: Predatory licensing practices, but I do use Virtual Box on my mac.

    Apple: Walled garden (good and bad), union-busing behaviour in Apple stores, and certainly anti-competitive, but I own plenty of their devices

    Microsoft: Convicted monopolist, tendency to release crappy software, but managing their products is how I get my beer tokens at the end of the week

    Broadcom: Blatant disregard for customers through astronomical price rises

    Amazon: Complete disregards for workers rights, or mental health but I do love my kindle (I avoid using the Amazon store and side load my books)

    Google : I just avoid for their privacy invasive techniques, ditto Facebook. The above list are almost as bad at protecting privacy as well/almost as good at monetising privacy.

    And that's just off the top of my head. Not restricted to tech, as well.

    Just because I use a product does not mean that I will automatically like the company that produces it.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Oracle Broadcom

    Fuck Oracle. Fuck broadcom.

    That is all.

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  12. OSYSTEM

    Main use for us is to support vSphere

    With VMware workstation you can create/import/export VMs that work with vSphere, for troubleshooting, provisioning VM templates, developing OVF/OVA templates etc.

    Despite Broadcom most large organisations still run vSphere for their own DCs so Workstation is still quite useful.

    For just *running* Linux/Windows VMs on Windows, the built-in Hyper-V works well enough for all my purposes, if WSL2 doesn't fit.

    For USB-support in Linux, see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/connect-usb, works for Hyper-V as well as WSL2.

    For USB-support in Windows, use RDP to connect to your VM (it covers most use cases with logged on users).

    Also WSL2 is really a better Linux than Linux if you need to work with different distributions :-D

    Any Docker container can be exported as a WSL2 image, see:

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/use-custom-distro

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