Fedora 41: A vast assortment, but there's something for everyone At the end of October, Fedora 41 came out, with more different variants than ever before: 29 by our count, not including all the architectures and download options. Fedora 41 shipped at the end of October, a little short of three weeks after Ubuntu 24.10. We looked at the beta of the flagship GNOME Workstation about a month …
... so that makes 58 varieties?
On my RISC-V SBC (running Bianbu OS):
~ sudo docker run -it fedorariscv/base /bin/bash
bash-5.2# cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 41 (Rawhide)
bash-5.2# uname -m
riscv64
bash-5.2# uname -a
Linux 5233f20c2935 6.6.36 #2.0.2.2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 11 13:06:48 UTC 2024 riscv64 GNU/Linux
Quote: "...Alongside our mistrust of Btrfs...."
Well.....Michael Larabel to the rescue: https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-611-filesystems/3
Take a looks the bottom of the page: "Geometric Mean Of All test Results". XFS and EXT4 provide twice the performance of BTRFS.
Boosters will say that BTRFS provides more functionality.
Well....I'm sticking with EXT4........BTRFS as Fedora default.....no thanks, even though I'm a long term user of Fedora/XFCE.
That is a kind of "Your mileage may vary" situation. Someone at my workplace tried various filesystems for very large build jobs in a local cloud server, and BTRFS came surprisingly on top. Still, I myself prefer XFS, as a mature fs with long track record and good performance in most cases. The file system is the one component one does not want to play games with.
I refuse to use Wayland until the accessibility issues with it are addressed and they start requiring it as a part of core Wayland instead of excluding it from core for "security", because we all know that Linux malware that wants to hook your input devices will go straight for the jugular and hook right into Udev instead of ever going through the compositor. Wayland seems nice and really cool, but actually using it with Orca (the Linux screen reader) is, for me, a horrifically bad experience. I know that there are some others in the works, but since Wayland doesn't allow the kind of keyboard access that these screen readers need (after all, it's for security!), they have to go through Udev. So I'll happily stick with XFCE or LXDE or Mate for now. Anyway, rant over. Lol
Fedora 41 looks like a very good release. I really need to switch to it on bear metal...
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> ...we had to experiment with window sizing a lot in order to get the Anaconda installer's buttons to appear.
This! We can't all have Corporate Developer size monitors with galactic resolution. Yet they give us simple decisions in gigantic odd-aspect dialog boxes. Or re-size algorithms that you stretch 50px and it enlarges 500px.
Everyone should have at minimum a 4K monitor. I got one when lockdown and work-from-home were mandated and, frankly, there's no going back.
That first Covid-induced purcahase was of 28" diagonal, making the pixels a bit small for my near-pensionable eyes. Upon return-to-office I demanded* a 32-inch 4K screen. It's quite usable.
-A.
* If you work with designers who habitually use Figma, as I do, then maximal screen estate becomes essential rather than just nice to have. TBH an even bigger screen with even more pixels would be much better.
> minimum a 4K monitor
Well, that's fine if you have a DECENT SIZE 4K monitor... I had a 21" one, and the postage stamp theatre was killing me.
I finally had to buy a 49" which was actually readable. I was stupid enough to buy a Samsung product, but that's on me, and I won't make that mistake again.
Now the 44" width is acceptable... next what I need is a monitor that's 28" tall instead of 14" and then maybe, just maybe, the entity-relationship diagram for this system might be readable.
Was that 49” a Samsung “Oddity” G9 by any chance?
Mine’s been generally a good boy over the past two years apart from 1px checkboard grids occasionally triggering the display to dim noticeably.
But online Reddit post horror stories tell many sordid tales of light leaks, dot marching, dead backlight zones and signal compatibility problems and bad firmware updates.
Unless you're playing video games, you should have bought a 55" tv with multiple HDMI inputs. I can run 4 concurrent, non-overlapping nearly 1920x1080 desktops. I don't have to alt-tab between windows any more. It also makes it possible to read the fine print on any website (or badly designed Microsoft (but I repeat myself) application by going full-screen.
For me, it's not so much about the Distro anymore. It's all about the desktop environment and apps. As a long-time KDE user, I can use any of a dozen different distros and the look and feel will be identical. Underneath the covers, there are a few differences, of course, such as package manager, update process, installed apps and perhaps some subtle differences in directory structure. I can, and have run Kubuntu, Manjaro KDE, MX KDE, Neon, openSuSE, Debian or Fedora KDE, and you would be hard-pressed to notice any differences visually. I can install all the same apps, I normally use, on any of them, either directly or via flatpaks. Initial setup and config may vary slightly, but ultimately, it's all the same.
Right now, my primary desktop happens to be on Fedora 41 KDE with ext4. I have 3 other systems in the house, for various purposes. 1 is on Manjaro KDE and the other 2 are on Kubuntu. They all look and feel the same. So as I said, it's not about the distro, it's all about the DE.
Yeah. I’m the same. I’m pretty agnostic when it comes to distribution. But I assume it’s because I’m one of those more casual users who doesn’t know enough about Linux to really appreciate the subtleties and has to do a “google +reddit” search for most solutions anyway.
I currently have Linux on a dozen bare metal machines (from two full workstations to half a dozen thinkstation Tinys to brace of RPis in a mix of Mint, Debian, ELive and Suse Tumbleweed) but still know very little about, say, the difference between snap and flatpak.
For me there is one feature that keeps me tied to Ubuntu distros - LTS support. Not only do you get a full 5 years support, but they offer in-place upgrades. I have a laptop that I have been running Ubuntu for almost 10 years and it has 22.04 on it. It is my work daily driver, so I haven't gotten around to upgrading to 24.04 yet. But I have the option to do just that without reinstalling. Other distros like Debian and RHEL are just beginning to get in place upgrading capabilities, but Ubuntu has had it for decades.
> GNOME-based Workstation is the most visible, and it supports x86-64, Arm64 and 64-bit little-endian PowerPC
Now I got curious. What kind of workstation runs on a little-endian PowerPC? Or any PowerPC( excluding old Macs, which I believe were big-endian like the previously used Motorola processor).
> What kind of workstation runs on a little-endian PowerPC? Or any PowerPC
I know of a couple of people with these:
https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/
They love the things.
Apparently POWER10 is proving difficult -- I think some of the firmware in the memory controller isn't and can't be FOSS. But yes, POWER workstations are still a thing.
I know that it's a popular platform for the SAP HANA in-memory database, and SUSE supports it for that. Some customers have _terabytes of RAM_ in POWER kit, just for this app.
More than 50 new varieties of this Fedora. Instead of the open-source Calamares, Fedora has its own specialised, their Anaconda installation system, upgraded.
Now getting to find any of these versions, to download as a ready to install ISO. As mentioned in this publication, interested in using this menu system to locate the version of this new Fedora to use.
More than 50 new varieties of this Fedora. Instead of the open-source Calamares, Fedora has its own specialised, their Anaconda installation system, upgraded.
Now getting to find any of these versions, to download as a ready to install ISO. As mentioned in this publication, interested in using this menu system to locate the version of this Fedora for my use. URL please.
(Incoming downvotes no doubt...)
Shurely with Win 10 about to hit the bottom of the midden, and W11 unliked or uninstallable, a key requirement (I nearly said marketing requirement, and that's probably true) should be to roll out a distro and desktop that becomes much more standardised and newby-friendly. And also key, one that is stable enough and with a growing user base of Ordinary People that apps developers start porting their apps to Linux.
I would dearly love to move to a Linux and kiss Microshaft goodbye, but at the last count I have 15 important (to me) apps that have no Linux version nor Linux equivalent (and I and SWMBO already use Tbird, FF and GIMP with the occasional document rescue via LibreOffice). The other option of running WINE is notoriously iffy, and perhaps another thing to get fixed (or even built in?!) in Linuxland.
Pleeeeease, Linux Community, focus on building users and simplicity, easy support and Fixing Things, and not continuing to put them off with a zillion options which are great for experts but not for ordinary peeps looking to escape the Microshaft net. And preferably before I die (probably not far off now).
Thanks Liam for the suggestions of the "atomic budgie" spin. Set it up on a "newer" spare laptop (i5-5200U, 16GB RAM) and finding it very easy to set up and use....Budigie seems like a nice mixture of attractive UI yet nowhere near as heavy as GNOME or KDE. All very responsive and slick.
So far setting it up for my usual "daily driver" stuff it has been pretty straightforward - mostly used the terminal to install stuff but nothing so far that you couldn't do via GUI for those who find terminals a bit scary...
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