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The British government has ordered a China-owned entity to sell its stake in a Scottish chip company under the authority of the National Security and Investment Act 2021. Glasgow-based Future Technology Devices International (FTDI) Limited is a fabless semiconductor biz with a range of chips and modules listed on its website, …

  1. steviebuk Silver badge

    Good, however,

    The Tories allowed a Chinese company to buy the fab in Newport IOW, so that's just has bad and needs to be undone.

    1. Irongut Silver badge

      Re: Good, however,

      RTFA in its entirety. You might find the second to last paragraph illuminating.

      Or just continue being a clueless idiot.

      1. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: Good, however,

        That's a change then as the sale was paused because of the issue, then the Tories eventually said "No, its fine to sell it to the Chinese". I assume the new government reversed that.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Good, however,

      That's wrong, but an easy mistake to make, Nexperia is Chinese owned and they do own fabs in other UK cities.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

    Who knew FTDI was a uk company? The vast majority of available chips like this are now Chinese anyway, thar protectionist ship sailed a decade ago. Irreverent company a strategic UK asset??? This says more about the state of silicon companies in the UK that anything about this particular company.

    1. Missing Semicolon Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

      "The company is said to specialize in USB technology". Surely most commentards know that, surely? (clears pile of Arduinos out of the way to type comment)

    2. DoContra
      Boffin

      Re: FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

      ASIC design house is not an asset to sniff at, even if fabless. Besides, FTDI chips are still the standard/default[1] choice in USB to serial/SPI/I2C/GPIO/weird in-house programmable protocol[2] you may need, and they're a valuable debug/development tool in electronics (to the point most SBCs -- a la Raspberry Pi -- include an USB to Serial chip straight on the PCB for console/log access).

      In my experience, USB to serial FTDI chips (as long as they're the genuine article) had the best Windows compatibility by far (other than the Arduino thingamajigs that use alternative chips); dongles with other chips (esp. those with Prolific) depended on how many corners the dongle-maker cut (on Linux -- GNU or not -- I've never had any issues with any chip as long as the driver was available).

      [1]: Despite doing some very dodgy stuff with their windows drivers (search elReg for more, and note that the fallout of these changes was felt mostly on customers who bought a product that used the counterfeit chip -- whether on purpose or because the OEM was scammed by their suppliers)

      [2]: FTDI provides a closed-source SDK to wrangle control of their more feature-full chips which allows uses like implementing an USB to JTAG dongle.

      1. vlhcvlhc

        Re: FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

        FTDI has been too expensive compared to alternatives for a while and alternatives are dime a dozen, literally.

        They needed the Chinese investment to stay alive, this will probably kill them. Oh well, good riddance UK chip industry.

        1. David 164

          Re: FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

          or the UK government will acquire them and combine the operation with Octric Semiconductors UK.

    3. nematoad Silver badge

      Re: FTDI, really, the USB Serial/TTL chip people

      Irreverent company a strategic UK asset???

      Eh?

      Are FTDI auditioning for "Have I Got News For You" or something?

      Or are they really an "Irrelevant" company?

  3. cyberdemon Silver badge

    Whack a mole

    The only real problem I have with China owning FTDI is what horrors they could sneak into their proprietary Windows drivers, which are automatically downloaded and installed by Windows as soon as a device is plugged in!

    But rather than cracking down on ownership of hardware companies, a better strategy would be to tell Borkzilla to stop automatically installing drivers, especially when generic drivers exist which could be shipped with their shitty OS

    1. VoiceOfTruth

      Re: Whack a mole

      -- what horrors they could sneak into their proprietary Windows drivers

      Do you have the same attitude to American companies? If not, curb your racism.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Whack a mole

        You take Yuan now as well as Rubles?

  4. VoiceOfTruth

    Pathetic little serfs

    The politicians in the UK are more beholden to what their Washington overlords tell them to do, than what is in the best interests of UK citizens. When the last bit of technology is sold off or shut down or turned into ashes, will they still be able to lick the boots of their masters? Good boy, here's a bone.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Pathetic little serfs

      Did you read this article or just copy / paste your reply from another post of yours?

      1. Mark Exclamation

        Re: Pathetic little serfs

        You really shouldn't feed the trolls......

  5. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Give

    Just give China everything and let's go back to making fish and actual chips.

    1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Give

      How do you 'make' a fish?

      What bits do I need? what order do I assemble them in? is there any painting involved? do I have to install some sort of 'fishware' in order to get it to move?

      1. Paul Crawford Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Give

        How do you 'make' a fish?

        It is like the birds and the bees old boy, only a bit wetter...

      2. katrinab Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: Give

        You get two adult fish. Put them in a nice comfortable environment with lots of food. Then they produce lots of baby fish. Give them lots of food, then they grow up to become adult fish, and produce lots of baby fish of their own. It is called a "fish farm".

        1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge

          Re: Give

          A 'fish farm'?

          How do you get them on the tractors?... they need some sort of wet suit or something?

  6. GBE

    Why is the order from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?

    Can anybody explain what FTDIHL has to do with the Duchy of Lancaster?

    Is that where GTDIHL is located despite FTDI itself being headquartered in Glasgow?

    I can't find any mention of Glasgow on the Wikipedia page for the Duchy...

    1. Conor Stewart

      Re: Why is the order from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?

      Did you read the article?

      "The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster is the highest-ranking minister in the British Cabinet Office after the Prime Minister."

      1. GBE

        Re: Why is the order from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?

        So the answer is it has nothing to do with the Duchy of Lancaster? That just happens to be the title of the guy that gave the order?

        1. Paul Crolla

          Re: Why is the order from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?

          https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/chancellor-of-the-duchy-of-lancaster

          The role is a minister without portfolio role, mea ING they don't run a department but have specific responsibilities given to them by the prime minister. Including the relevant legislation used to force this sale.

          1. GBE

            Re: Why is the order from the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster?

            Thanks. That answers my question. I'm still a bit baffled why asking simple questions like that evoked downvotes. I had googled the duchy of lancaster, but had not managed to find that particular page.

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