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Microsoft has confirmed that the mysterious missing storage on Windows 11 24H2 devices is due to a "reporting error" in the operating system's cleanup tool. Many Windows 11 24H2 users, this writer included, saw a chunk of disk space occupied by "Windows Update Cleanup" after running the Disk Cleanup tool. Efforts to reclaim …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    A fix will be available

    In the "Disk Cleanup Cleanup Tool" which cleans up problems in the cleanup tool which cleans problems in the disk

    1. Ian Johnston Silver badge

      Re: A fix will be available

      'We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

    2. simonlb Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: A fix will be available

      Who the fuck tests this shit? Seriously, who???

      1. Gene Cash Silver badge

        Re: A fix will be available

        That'd be you & me, mate...

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A fix will be available

        Home users of course. You are the test ring before it gets to deployed the real Microsoft customers in corporate land.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A fix will be available

        Not those that don't have a TPM on their mobo. Thats a lot of PCs.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft

    Where Quality is Job None!

  3. Mentat74
    Joke

    Almost sounds like Apple...

    "You're reporting it wrong"...

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Almost sounds like Apple...

      The report is prepared by AI. The 8Gb is simply an hallucination.

    2. gv

      Re: Almost sounds like Apple...

      "We're sorry you feel your disk space is being hoarded ..."

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Holmes

    "a bug in reporting disk space"

    So, just like I said. Stop that 8GB showing up in the Cleanup and the problem is solved.

    Never mind that you're eating yet more disk space on your customers' PC. It's not like you've ever cared about managing your OS properly, right ?

    1. Blackjack Silver badge

      Re: "a bug in reporting disk space"

      That errrors shows up because latest Win 11 keeps latest update files in order to use "incremental updates" that Microsoft recently implemented or so I read.

      Still sloopy as hell.

  5. A.P. Veening Silver badge

    Just another reason

    To avoid Windows 11. Either it is reporting inaccurately, which leaves one to wonder what else it is reporting wrong, or it is hoarding the space, which is also not acceptable.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Just another reason

      All prime number versions of Windows are bad.

      Win1,2,3 bad as were W8 and W11.

      While W95, W7 and W10 were OK

      (Note: Primetest performed on a 90s Pentium)

  6. biddibiddibiddibiddi Bronze badge

    So they say "in the initial run". Somehow I doubt that none of the people who ran the tool and saw that didn't try just running it again and see that now it shows the space was released, or actually look at their disk usage and see the size reduced by that amount. I wonder if any of them tried a tool like Wiztree that can dig into even protected folders to show how much space is actually being used in folders like System Volume Information or the updates cache.

    Microsoft may be claiming it's a "reporting error" but based on the way the new Checkpoint Updates seem to work, the previous updates WILL be retained and using up space because otherwise it would have to redownload them every time a new update is released (the way we had to download a Service Pack plus every update released after that, until the next Service Pack or Cumulative Update that included them all), meaning your updates would take longer and longer to download each time. The only way to avoid that is if they also have a consolidated package that can be downloaded instead, where they've already patched in those binary differentials, for every release, which would increase their own storage usage and effort. If they aren't going to change the Disk Cleanup tool to ignore those cached updates, or perhaps list them as a separate option to be removed with a note about the consequences, their own tools will be eliminating the benefit of Checkpoint Updates AND making updates worse for people.

    Of course my Windows 10 system is showing 3.95GB of used space right now, so it's not like hoarding space for no reason is anything new. But my Win11 laptop hasn't been turned on for a couple of weeks, and with all the problem reports I'm afraid to do so unless I disable wireless long enough to disable the update service until I can perform a backup.

  7. druck Silver badge

    AI can't add up

    This is what happens when you inflict AI on every aspect of the system.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Possibilities

    * It was a math error. Microsoft's response: snarky words from MS management to the relevant dev team.

    * It was a supposed-to-be secret data store for Recall, at the request of some TLA(s). Microsoft's response: (privately) "Shit! We've been found out!!" (Publicly) "It was a math error. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! An unpaid intern made an unauthorized change and has been removed from their post. There is no problem; you are doing your sums wrong."

    1. Yorick Hunt Silver badge

      Re: Possibilities

      Ding ding ding!

      youtube.com/watch?v=G9FRadIkkE0

  9. User McUser
    Go

    To be fair, it's always done this

    Rarely, if ever, have I gotten back all the space that the cleanup tool claimed I would when run.

    So nothing really new here...

    1. biddibiddibiddibiddi Bronze badge

      Re: To be fair, it's always done this

      It's usually not quite that egregious, though. I don't know what restrictions have previously resulted in it not being able to delete things, but most likely it's that the tool just reads folder sizes without checking whether the OS is going to prevent removal of things that are "in use" or somehow reserved due to a dependency. Now that it's going to be tens of gigs (eventually), rather than just several hundred MB to maybe 2 gigs, they're realizing they fucked up by not having some way to restrict the tool from displaying amounts that can't be removed. So it is a "reporting error" from that perspective, but it has always been present and has accidentally exposed the downside to Checkpoint Updates.

  10. navarac Silver badge

    Just to prove again...

    ....that Microsoft Windows 11 is not fit for purpose, or at least, Microsoft's pre-release checks aren't. And of course they don't read issues in the Feedback Hub. Total Numpties.

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