Vietnam plans to convert all its networks to IPv6 Vietnam will convert all local networks to IPv6, under a sweeping digital infrastructure strategy announced last week. The plan emerged in Decision No. 1132/QD-TTg – signed into existence by permanent deputy prime minister Nguyen Hoa Binh – and defines goals for 2025 and 2030. By 2025, the nation intends to connect two new …
Counterpoint: Vietnam has four times the population in a much smaller geographic footprint. Their ability to deliver the physical and cellular infrastructure to the majority of the population is therefore probably vastly simplified compared to Oz. No reason for Australia not to have IPv6, though.
Countercounterpoint: The majority of the Australian population live in a relatively small number of urban areas. 40% of the population live in the Greater Sydney or Greater Melbourne area. The next 20% live in Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide. The home cities for 60% of the population can be counted on one hand. For sure, if you're on a ranch or station in the outback or "between cities" then that's a final-mile-and-a-half to connect and you're probably on satellite, or maybe fixed wireless. But that does not excuse the gross failure in cities where NBN was still a "multi technology" clusterfudge and when it eventually came, leaned on ungenerous assymetric tech - 1000/50 anyone? And that's assuming you got FTTP at all and weren't fobbed off with FTT-somewhere-around-here which maybe-sorta gets you to an NBN100 plan (some only got NBN25!). There cannot be any good excuse for Sydney or Canberra not having just poked fibre into every house and being able to offer affordable 1000/1000 by default. It's just weak-willed, unimaginative politicians. And the same basically goes for Britain.
The idea that Vietnam is going to roll out gigabit across the country should be making "developed" countries sit up and say "yeah, we're a bit shit at this aren't we".
"Anything we can actually do, we can afford", John Maynard Keynes
actually Australia is doing quite well due to Telstra... of all companies
what is really holding us back is OPTUS not having a modern network
(they list as Microplex )
AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Limited 79.14%
AS4804 MPX-AS Microplex PTY LTD. 0.21%
AS7545 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited 13.31%
AS4764 WIDEBAND-AS-AP Aussie Broadband 28.78%
AS9443 VOCUS-RETAIL-AU Vocus Retail 45.11%
if optus just started using their network correctly we could be up there with the best of them...
Even NZ apparently has better broadband infrastructure than AU.
Would be ironic if the wide adoption of IPv6 by the developing world eventually were to drive the wider adoption in the recalcitrant west.
An emerging mass market for IPv6 supporting and otherwise non-broken middle boxes might motivate the rest of the world to dump their existing rubbish.
Would be ironic if the wide adoption of IPv6 by the developing world eventually were to drive the wider adoption in the recalcitrant west.
That has more or less been happening for a while now.
As the IPv4 address-per-capita ratio is low to very low in many developing countries (there were medium sized American companies that were awarded bigger IPv4 blocks than entire countries in Asia and Africa) many developing countries had to duct-tape their entire internet infrastructure together (think: multiple(!) layers of Carrier Grade NAT) so they jumped at the opportunity that IPv6 brought.
When I was involved in a service where we expected a lot users in India it was a requirement to make the entire system work over a IPv6-only connection because we couldn't rely on the user having a decent reliable IPv4 connection (or any IPv4 connection for that matter). India's internet traffic is about 80% IPv6 so IPv6 is a must.
It's over a decade ago that Facebook went IPv6-only on their internal network with just edge servers translating to IPv4 for the stragglers in Europe and North America where IPv4-only connections still exist. If they hadn't they couldn't have had so much global growth.
I don't remember being asked if we wanted to spunk away billions of taxpayer money bailing out the banks, aircraft carriers with no aircraft, the non-existent Covid test and trace, fraudulent Covid loans, dodgy and overpriced PPE, HS2, decades of subsidies for Beardie's choo-choos, PFI rip-offs, truckloads of dosh on the Sizewell and Hinckley Point money pits, backhanders to the chumocracy, failing to send people with brown skin to Rwanda, etc, etc. If only some of that money could have been allocated for doing what Vietnam's doing to its core national network infrastructure. Vietnam (or any other country with a competent government) can do it. Why can't we?
As far as I am aware, the default for all TCP/IP stacks where IPv6 is enabled is to prefer IPv6 and to try to reach other hosts over IPv6, only falling back on IPv4 after IPv6 times out and if a local interface has an IPv4 address configured and connectivity over that protocol turns out to be available.
The time-to-give-up timeout is if I remember correctly a tuneable most places, but I suspect the default setting is long enough to be annoying if IPv6 is in fact not configured in the network at all but your machine keeps trying anyway.
So totally predictable.
Whether or not IPv6 is useful, I'll leave it at stating that my opinion differs from that of the person who wrote the article.
I would be careful with underestimating Vietnam, they are gearing up to become a mighty industrial player.
Vietnam signed a trade deal with the EU that came into effect a few years ago. They are also a relatively benign player on the world stage that doesn't play global politics (as opposed to China or India).
This means that if you are a company that wishes to sell its products into the EU, with 450 million the world's largest market of rich people, and wishes to avoid the trade war and sanctions du-jour, outsourcing production to Vietnam makes a lot of sense. It's much easier to get your Vietnam manufactured products into the EU than Chinese manufactured products, thanks to this trade deal. At the moment a lot of supply chain de-risking involves moving part (or all) of your production from China to countries such as Vietnam. FT: Vietnam becomes vital link in supply chain as business pivots from China. Case in point: Apple has done just that with the manufacturing of some of its Macbooks.
We will soon be referring to Vietnam as an Asian Tiger.
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