Arrow Lake splashdown: Intel pins hopes on replacement for Raptors Back in September 2023, Intel unveiled its newly designed Meteor Lake SoC for the mobile market, which was the first disaggregated chip for mobile using multiple tiled packaging. While in consensus opinion indicates Meteor Lake flopped, it did pave the way for Intel to try new things in the consumer space. Its next generation …
After the recent debacles regarding not just quality control at production level but also the 13th and 14th gen issues blowing up the ring bus, I would have assumed that Intel would need to earn some trust back before giving a shopping list of what desirable features should be available.
I really do hope that they have finally got their act together, no real competition is no competition at all and that is bad for all of us.
Hyperthreading was never really a sound idea, it was just a way of "cheating" more performance under ideal conditions, whilst opening up a plethora of security issues.
I'd rather have proper threads on a secure processor rather than a bunch of quasi, might be quicker, threads on an insecure design...
My guess is the MS specs are not driven by an expectation that MS "customers" will need to do AI workloads wholly independently - obviously not as MS wants customers to rely on MS cloud subscriptions. Instead, I think MS is calculating these usages:
1. user data for gathered for training can be preprocessed somewhat on the user end before upstreaming to MS.
2. some parts of any user AI workload can be performed on the user side - under the supervision of the upstream MS supervisor.
As for 2., that doesn't sound easy at all in terms of software. It's far easier just to compute upstream and send blocks of text back down. So I believe the main purpose is 1.
I appreciate that there's always a painful price increase for the best of the best, but $200 extra for 200MHz and 4 E-cores really can't appeal to that many people. Or is the intent to make the $70 jump from 245K to 265K (2 more P-cores, 6 more E-cores, *and* 200MHz) look even more appealing than it already is?
It's the 13th & 14th gen CPU's that have the manufacturing defects that cause corrosion in the VIA's... Intel still won't issue a recall, nor even state the manufacturing codes/dates for the affected ones before they claimed to have fixed the issue in later 14th gen production runs.
They've lied, deceived, tried to blame others and it's only because of the excellent tech reporting of places like 'Gamers Nexus' and others that they've been exposed... and all they've done is say they'll extend the warranty for 2yrs and have already been caught trying to deny warranty claims for people with defective CPU's.
A total recall for all afflicted CPU's should have been done long ago. Instead they're crossing their fingers and hoping that people won't know about the issue, won't know they can file a warranty claim.
This is 100% intels fault, they were so desperate to keep up with AMD's resurgence with Ryzen and trying to claim the performance crown that they encouraged all manufacturers to allow their CPU's to run way out of spec, way over voltage just to gain those few extra points in some benchmarks and claim to be the best... But then AMD's X3D chips showed that it could be done with efficiency and better engineering.
Then to help out intel and shift some of the attention... AMD decided to go 'hold my beer' with their 9xxx series launch that is nothing more than a refresh, offers no actual improvement (other than a couple of % in some areas) in performance, but does improve efficiency. Their launch and subsequent attempts to show how to gain performance using unreleased windows updates, showed their floored in house testing regime and a total lack of transparency to reviewers who couldn't even get close to the claims AMD made.
AMD have shot themselves in the foot again with their stupid marketing claims, they've been hobbled... But intel have shot themselves with a sawn off shotgun... they're now an amputee. It's no wonder other companies smell the blood in the water and are circling like sharks to take a chunk out of them on the cheap.
I think this will mean curtains for their discrete GPU's shortly... they have a less than 1% share of the market and whilst Arc has shown a lot of improvement with drivers... Battlemage needs to be excellent and very cheap to claw any market share from AMD... and unless nvidia try to screw consumers with their 5xxxx series (which is pretty much a given)... with AMD abandoning the high end (which is good) they need to put out what would have been their x900XT cards as x800XT cards at budget prices(compared to nvidia, so sub £600 and I can't believe I've become accustomed to thinking £600 is 'normal' for a mid/high GPU).
Unless nvidia sell the 5080 cards for around £700... it's a chance for both AMD & Intel to increase market share, especially if their cards can compete on performance. AMD's fluid frames and FSR has come a long way... I've been using both recently on a lot of games, with God of War - Ragnarok avg 162fps on my 5800X3D and 6900XT, Horizon Forbidden West 222fps and Cyberpunk 2077 (with expansion) 174fps all at highest settings (no rtx) @ 1440p
I was thinking the same thing but then the L3 cache is shared across all cores with a new implementation. Also they have called it ‘Intel Smart Cache’ which invites very predictable article titles. That’s probably where the side-channel shenanigans will start - is my guess!
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