The BBC weather forecast was right, it was the planet that glitched.
BBC weather glitch shows 13k mph winds in London, 404℃ in Nottingham
Those who rely on the BBC's online weather forecasts to plan their day would be forgiven if they woke up this morning and thought the world was ending, but those 13,508 mile-an-hour winds in London and 404℃ lows forecasted for Nottingham tomorrow are an obvious error. Visit the BBC's online or in-app weather forecasts as of …
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Saturday 12th October 2024 08:41 GMT mahan
Re: IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
While global warming is real and can influence hurricane patterns, attributing any specific hurricane directly to climate change is complex.
People often mistakenly link individual weather events to climate change, like claiming a hot summer or cold winter proves or disproves global warming. Similarly, pointing to a certain hurricane being "contributed to" because of climate change's impact oversimplifies a complex issue.
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Thursday 10th October 2024 19:37 GMT richardcox13
That's not "Hurricane Force"
"Be assured there won't be 14,408mph winds, hurricane force winds..."
Hurricane force is ≥ 73 mph and while there is no upper limit on force 12; I think being > Mach 18 is into a while new realm where everything down to bedrock would be scoured off (and the bedrock would be eroded pretty quickly).
Maybe someone messed up the data feed to it was read as being multiples of the speed of sound rather than, the correct, km/h and was a bit too clever is automatically converting.[1]
[1] This is the site where you can turn it up to 11.
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Thursday 10th October 2024 21:01 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: That's not "Hurricane Force"
Yes, but with "404℃ lows forecasted for Nottingham tomorrow" sound will travel at 1,150 mph there ... and so 14,408mph is just a Mach 14 wind gust really ... plenty of folks were born in a cross-fire hurricane like this, and then lived to be raised by a toothless, bearded hag just fine AFAIK!
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Thursday 10th October 2024 22:59 GMT John Brown (no body)
Re: That's not "Hurricane Force"
"Maybe someone messed up the data feed to it was read as being multiples of the speed of sound rather than, the correct, km/h and was a bit too clever is automatically converting.[1]"
Or, it was a US based weather service providing the data in "freedom" units and struggling to convert to proper[*] units the entire rest of the word users, especially this particular customer :-)
* Admittedly, that doesn't explain the slight discrepancy in the wind speeds in mph. Or maybe it does? The US company tried to convert the km/h, and the BBC then converted back to mph?
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Thursday 10th October 2024 21:02 GMT Giles C
Re: Neptune is jealous
Probably because we use miles for distance everywhere in the uk. All the road signs are in miles, speed limits in miles per hour etc. we but petrol in litres but still use miles per imperial gallon (4.54 litres not the us version) for fuel consumption.
And the met office weather data uses the same units.
Before you say anything it works for us….
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Thursday 10th October 2024 22:15 GMT Doctor Syntax
Re: Neptune is jealous
Well it depends on the size of the meters. The pressure meter* on the carbon dating system in the old Belfast lab was at least 6 inches across, the pressure meter on my central heating system is only about 1 inch.
*Weird thing - IIRC it went round about 3 times so it had an effective scale length of getting on for a metre.
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Friday 11th October 2024 00:07 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Neptune is jealous
Please stop bragging about the size of your meter to us here at the carbon dating agency. We just cannot believe that it expands to a metre when you turn it around 3 times! Is that a telescope in your pocket by any chance (or are you really this happy to see us!)? (ahem! sorry ...)
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Friday 11th October 2024 01:35 GMT Tim99
Re: Neptune is jealous
But hours are in a Standard (ISO 8601), and can be useful as UTC with a local offset... >>===>
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Thursday 10th October 2024 22:42 GMT Howard Sway
Sorry, this forecast is wrong due to a data error. Please ignore while we fix the problem
That's what it says above the forecast on the BBC weather page. But the forecast is now right. So it was presented as right when it was wrong, and now they say it's wrong when it's right, which is of course wrong. Right?
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Friday 11th October 2024 07:52 GMT legless82
I can't help wondering
what the actual problem was.
The numbers that resulted didn't seem to make sense even when running through some conversion, so I can't help but wonder if there's a really crude flat file involved in the data interface where either the column order changed or some separators got missed.
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Friday 11th October 2024 09:19 GMT HorseflySteve
When NaN is ignored..
I once had a meteoradar.uk tell me that it was currently -273.1°C in Nether Stowey, Somerset with 290993 mph wind from the SSW and 308202.9 mm of precipitation (presumably, the entire atmosphere falling as 'snow'), and predicting a daytime high of 537°C, overnight low of 60°C with 92% probability of icy precipitation up to 2316049 mm deep.
I took screenshots :-)
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Friday 11th October 2024 15:12 GMT WageSlave5678
Bring Back the Met Office
when BBC shifted its Weather reporting from Met Office to Dutch HQ MeteoGroup it's not been as good.
I discarded the BBC Weather services 3 years back in favour of the Met Office's own app now -
their modeling is finer scale for the UK region, and Rain Radar gives you a *much* better picture of what is coming from upwind !
I correlate that with WindGuru, who take several different academic public APIs, with greater weighting given to the more local sources, and it's pretty good.
#TheJoysOfOutsourcing ...
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Monday 14th October 2024 09:18 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Bring Back the Met Office
I like the Norwegian weather forecast at YR.NO. e.g.
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/graph/2-2653941/United%20Kingdom/England/Cambridgeshire/Cambridge
The presentation of the graphs is very clear and the forecast is not too bad either. You may notice that the rain is measured in mm while the wind speed is in m/s.
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Saturday 12th October 2024 10:16 GMT Bebu
Meanwhile on the other side of the Pond...
apparently the Trump camp have been claiming Biden, Kamala and meteorologists were responsible for Milton. According to one particularly defective partisan the Democrats can control the weather.
I mean to say if they could do that wouldn't they send a hurricane towards Trump central? Hang on,.. ;)
I stumbled over Marina Hyde's Guardian opinion piece in Hurricane Milton has left two worlds in its wake. Elon Musk lives in one of them. The other is called reality. Sort of makes one want to go off and joust with a few windmills - a saner activity than those much of the world is engaged in at this time.