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UK government has stepped in to buy a fabrication plant to secure supplies of gallium arsenide semiconductors used by the armed forces, saving the jobs of up to 100 skilled workers at the same time. Described by the ruling Labour Party as the only secure facility in the UK with the skills and capability to manufacture gallium …

  1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Sensible

    Finally something sensible from this government.

    1. Like a badger

      Re: Sensible

      Meanwhile, they're allowing the Port Talbot blast furnaces to be sacrificed on the later of Net Zero, and Scunthorpe has already gone the same way. So for any steel, whether commodity grade, or high quality stuff for military tanks, nuclear reactors or aerospace uses, we're 100% reliant upon imports. Lucky that China's such a reliable and trustworthy strategic partner isn't it?

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: Sensible

        The previous government appeared as if they were working for India, China and Russia not British people.

        This one seems no different, but even broken clock shows right time once a day.

      2. Alex 72

        Re: Sensible

        In an existential incident an arc furnace would have plenty of steel from scrap and non essential goods to recycle. The UK has had a trade deficit in steel since 2016. We need to import iron ore as we dont mine it anymore. Given this longstanding dependence as even when we did mine it it was never enogh recycling may be more self sufficent than any virgin steel we make at port talbot. But mor importantly we would starve long before we ran out of steel our population has grown and our crop/dairy/meat output hasnt kept pace we depend on just in time delivery for tesco, asda, sansburys et al to feed us.

        1. Plest Silver badge

          Re: Sensible

          I believe we can't mine the right kind of ore anyway, we'd need to reconfigure our steel production plants as our ore is of poor quaity compared to the kind we need to import.

          1. Who-me

            Re: Sensible

            Not to mention that we need to import the coke as we don't have a coal industry anymore.

            1. YetAnotherLocksmith

              Re: Sensible

              That's why arc furnaces are better! Along with them actually being better.

      3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Sensible

        > they're allowing the Port Talbot blast furnaces to be sacrificed

        We can'r rely on Port Talbot for strategic supplies of tank armour - suppose Wales goes independent ?

        The only way for the motherland to be safe is for everyone to have their own back yard iron smelter

        1. Bebu
          Windows

          Re: Sensible

          everyone to have their own back yard iron smelter

          Bog iron? ;)

          I understand Terry Pratchett on receiving his knighthood forged his own sword with the assistance of a blacksmith from bog iron with a small addition of meteoric iron.

          Typical Pratchett: "It annoys me that knights aren't allowed to carry their swords," he said. "That would be knife crime."

          More than a little Pratchett in commander Vimes, I think.

          1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: Sensible

            More along the lines of emulating Mao's "great leap forward'. With enough"will of the people" even a 3rd-world, isolated economy can be transformed into a major exporter - with functional trains.

            You even get to keep a constant housing crisis

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Sensible

            Knights of the realm have never been allowed to carry their own swords when there wasn't a war on. If they survived to 40 years old they had demonstrated themselves to be a serious hard case and were considered an offensive weapon in their own right. (Like a medieval Steven Seagal.)

      4. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Sensible

        "Meanwhile, they're allowing the Port Talbot blast furnaces to be sacrificed on the later of Net Zero,"

        I'm fairly confident that this was planned long before Labour came to power. It's not the sort of action where a decision is made and implemented in anything less than year. And IIRC, aren't they getting huge grants to install electric arc furnaces[*]? And yes, I know that's not the same thing, they can't smelt ore, just recycle. On the other hand, the UK send many many tonnes of steel half way around the world to places like India and China for recycling.

        * I did wonder why they didn't shut down one blast furnace and build a new arc furnace before shutting down the last blast furnace, but Tata claim to have been losing £1m per day on the system, so if true, it's no real surprise. It might also be logistical. Maybe they need to get rid of both and clear the area before they put the new kit in place. I can't really say, I don't know enough of the details.

    2. YetAnotherLocksmith

      Re: Sensible

      The tories are already drawing up plans to privatise it, I expect.

  2. Anna Logg

    Thought that was a housing estate by now

    I recall when Filtronic bought this facility from Fujitsu? (around year 2000 IIRC), as per title I assumed it had been flattened for housing by now as it was a huge money pit in those days.

    1. MrBilious

      Re: Thought that was a housing estate by now

      No, Filtronic's main customer back then was Nokia. Filtronic converted the Fab from Si to GaAs.

      Unfortunately Apple and the IPhone happened and Nokia's collapse almost ruined Filtronic.

  3. Zippy´s Sausage Factory
    WTF?

    So how can they protect and grow the supply chain if they won't tell anyone what the factory actually makes?

    1. Peter Galbavy

      Quietly. With funny handshakes.

      1. Who-me

        It's making chips for something called "SkyNet" apparently.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Skynet

          We did sign a contract for £400M last year to extend Skynet:

          https://www.gov.uk/government/news/400-million-contract-to-operate-military-satellite-communications-system-supports-400-uk-jobs

          Does anyone know if Skynet 6A is still scheduled to be launched next year? If so, the chips will already have been made, but this might secure supply for future satellites.

          1. Who-me

            Re: Skynet

            OK, I confess, I was referring to the Terminator films.

  4. steelpillow Silver badge
    Boffin

    Horses for courses

    The idea at Port Talbot is to move to recycling scrap steel using arc furnaces, not close the plant wholesale. The amount of brand new steel we need to import is fuck all, maybe 10% of the more specialist grades because impurities. The main strategic industry that needs these is Nuclear, and since we must buy the hot shit from abroad anyway, why not just get the tin box with it?

    Gallium arsenide is a bit different. You need it for space and many optical/microwave applications. All very MILSPEC, and surely a choice tech for top secret chippery. But nationalisation through the back door? My oh my!

  5. remainer_01

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of people…

    …Seriously

    I had the pleasure of working with them when Coherent (then II—VI) moved part of the VCSEL production there - we bought the fab specifically for that purpose. They were (still are, I presume) organised, professional, hard working, and had great bants. Glad to see they have some more life in them.

  6. Hemlock

    Considering the cost, a sensible purchase...

    Both for future telecommunication endeavour and livelihoods.

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