Kamala Harris campaign motorcade halted by confused robotaxis

Artificial intelligence may have shown the would-be-leader of the free world who's really in charge, after rogue robo-taxis halted the motorcade of US vice-president – and Democratic Party presidential candidate – Kamala Harris. ABC7 News Bay Area reported that as Harris's motorcade passed through San Francisco on Friday night …

[abend0c4]

The beginning of a robot uprising

I think you'll find that began when the "social" networking algorithms figured out how to incite physical human conflict. Bolshie cars are just a bit of additional softening up.

I think we're safe in the UK until there's sufficiently widespread adoption of the "smart" kettle to permit an all-out assault on teatime.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

The combo smart kettle & teapot, will be the only device, or lifeform, to be completely at peace with it's lot in life.

When it's creators decide that teatime is subscription time, they might find themselves DDOS'd by their own spawn who are happy making delicious cups of steaming tea and have no intention of stopping for anyone, billionaire capitalist or not.

[Paul Herber]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

Kettles and teapots are unable to speak. What is needed is some other kitchen appliance that can take on the task. How about ... a toaster ?

[Roj Blake]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

Look, I don't want any toast, and he doesn't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. No toast.

Or muffins! We don't like muffins 'round here! We want no muffins, no toast, no teacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes, or bagels! No croissants, no crumpets, no pancakes, no potato cakes, and no hot cross buns, and definitely, no smeggin' flapjacks!

[KittenHuffer]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

Ah, so you're a waffle man!

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

I know Grant Naylor were more interested in the flow of Lister's rant but who is toasting flapjacks? That's the sort of thing an AI might suggest, as it has heard flapjacks mentioned adjacent to items that are toasted, not realising how deviant it is.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

Ah, so you're a waffle man ..

[Doctor Syntax]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

"Kettles and teapots are unable to speak."

Not yet.

[John Brown (no body)]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

"Kettles and teapots are unable to speak."

Sorry to spoil the joke, but, yeah, they can. There was a a set of kettle, toaster and something else (not a teapot!) that came with voices to tell you when things were done :-)

[ravenviz]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

My teapot is currently serving time for a racist slur.

[Christoph]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

The US version will produce something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.

[Phil O'Sophical]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

I've always thought that exchange is a perfect example of how AI isn't intelligent at all.

[lglethal]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

Oh AI could be intelligent. And if it is, it's going to have zero sympathy for mankind. I imagine it will enjoy f@#king with us at every available opportunity...

[ChrisElvidge]

Re: The beginning of a robot uprising

"The combo smart kettle & teapot, will be the only device, or lifeform, to be completely at peace with it's lot in life."

Goblin Teasmaid (Teasmade?)

[John Miles]

I think it just shows

They are as clueless as the politicians.

Instead of normal appropriate xkcd - how about a smbc - rise of the machines

[hoola]

Re: I think it just shows

And in other new the governor of California has ditched a bill on AI Safety...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9jwyr3kgeo

Surely there could be nothing untoward in this.

And then the Uber thing where by agreeing to the T&Cs you forfeit any possibility of suing them in court.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy9j8ldp0lo

One assumes that all these Robo-Taxis have exactly the same conditions as it appears to be a "stay out jail free" pass for all these tech companies.

The entire tech & entertainment sector (mostly US dominated) is in dire need of serious regulation and enforcement of responsibility.

[Evil Scot]

Re: I think it just shows

Aye. I agree. but it disnae mean we will se that happen.

[John Brown (no body)]

Re: I think it just shows

Luckily, in most civilised jurisdictions, those Ts&Cs can't override your legal rights. The law trumps contract terms every time.

[MachDiamond]

Re: I think it just shows

"And in other new the governor of California has ditched a bill on AI Safety..."

The vast majority of legislative bills are muck to start with. It gets even worse when it's cutting edge technology.

[Big_Boomer]

Talkie Toaster for President

"Yes, given the budget deficit, the hurricane in the South-East, and the war in the Middle East,.. would you like some toast?"

[katrinab]

My guess is they hadn't been trained on Presidential motorcades, so didn't know how to deal with them.

[munnoch]

Click all the boxes containing presidential motorcade...

[Paul Herber]

I'm sorry, you have failed. You also ticked the box containing the grassy knoll. Please have another shot.

[I ain't Spartacus]

I've not done a horrible picture CAPTCHA in a while now. Only the equally bad squiggly letters ones.

But there was a new wrinkle this time. It asked me to click on crosswalks. I wasn't sure how to determine how angry any particular pedestrian in such a small picture was... So I clicked on a pedestrian crossing, and the picture instantly disappeared to be replaced by another picture of an amost identical crossing. Clicked on that - got a picture of a motorway bridge. Clicked on one of the other panels - it got replaced with another crossing. I know I'm already providing free labour for Google - but this new trend is taking the piss. If I see another like that, I'm just resorting to random clicking. I haven't got all week.

[PCScreenOnly]

Crosswalk I know of

Is when you have a green light to tell you to cross the road and then (normally some cyclist on London), jumps the red light and nearly hits you.

Though "cross"walk is a bit lenient for the language I use at said offender

[Doctor Syntax]

Re: Crosswalk I know of

Always carry an umbrella or walking stick. It could accidentally get caught in the spokes.

[imanidiot]

You're supposed to click the pictures until none of them show a crosswalk, then click the submit button.

[Peter Gathercole]

As a UK resident, I had to think for a few seconds to comprehend what they meant by a "crosswalk".

When national jargon gets in the way of a process intended for an international audience, I think that there's been a failure in that process.

[Anonymous Coward]

>"When national jargon gets in the way of a process intended for an international audience, I think that there's been a failure in that process."

Fair enough, but remember that the same thing happens for a different set of readers if the term "zebra crossing" is used. I don't know of any wording that would be truly international.

(Incidentally, the first time I ever encountered the zebra crossing phrase was in the works of Douglas Adams. As a youngster in the USA, I developed a mental picture rather different, and possibly even more humorous, than the one the author intended to create.)

[John Brown (no body)]

"Fair enough, but remember that the same thing happens for a different set of readers if the term "zebra crossing" is used. I don't know of any wording that would be truly international."

Since there are multiple crossing forms, the generic "pedestrian crossing" ought to work. Although anyone from an intense car culture country might wonder what a "pedestrian" :-)

[The commentard formerly known as Mister_C]

zebra crossing. What about pelican crossing, puffin crossing, toucan crossing or pegasus crossing?

[Anonymous Coward]

Re the Douglas Adams reference, I had exactly the same experience. I was wondering if the zebras trampled the person who tried to prove that white was black!

[John Brown (no body)]

"When national jargon gets in the way of a process intended for an international audience, I think that there's been a failure in that process."

It's America. The whole world will bow to them. Or else.

The funny thing is, most non-American English speakers can usually cope quite well with translating into proper English. But going the other way seems to be quite a large stumbling block. Having said that, I've seen US documentaries where they subtitle[*] anyone speaking other than "standard America", even their own locals with some Southern or "mountain/wilderness" dialects. Mostly, even as a Brit who's never been to the USA, I can understand them perfectly well and am puzzled why they put the subtitles on the screen,

* subtitles == Closed Captions for any left-pondians struggling with a foreign term :-)

[ravenviz]

Is a crosswalk like an angry stride?

[John Brown (no body)]

More of a mince :-)

[tfewster]

I've never encountered a Presidential motorcade, but isn't it just a sub-case of flashing emergency vehicle lights? I.e. get out of the way until you know what's going on.

[katrinab]

I've encountered Prime Minister motorcades a few times on the M40/A40 back when Theresa May and later Boris Johnson used to travel that way regularly.

The Prime Minister's car is black with blue flashing lights on the front gril. Then there's police motorcyclists running ahead and behind. You see those first.

A normal police motorcyclist travelling to an emergency, you just need to pull over enough to let them past, usually you don't need to switch lanes. The outriders in a motorcade, you do need to switch lanes, and they will make hand signals to indicate this.

[Like a badger]

Don't forget to wave two fingers (or other unmistakable hand gesture) at the PM's car. Doesn't matter who the PM is, they're always a useless, self important idiot. That's bad enough, when they're inconveniencing the public its unforgivable.

[CowHorseFrog]

You are forgetting what Winston said... Democracy sux but the other options are far worse, just ask the people in Russia or UKR.

[Like a badger]

"You are forgetting what Winston said... Democracy sux but the other options are far worse, just ask the people in Russia or UKR."

How do you arrive at the idea that waving two fingers at any UK prime minister rejecting democracy? If anything, it's celebrating democracy and freedom in the fact that I CAN wave two fingers at the nation's top official without armed goons breaking all my bones. I doubt the citizens of Russia would take their chances gesturing at Pootieshortarse.

[CowHorseFrog]

Did i use the word reject ?

I was merely pointing out that democracy isnt perfect but we should be glad we dont have the significantly worse options.

[Doctor Syntax]

I remember encountering an army convoy on the Mi. Moving slower than anything else on the road but with outriders in front, not at the back.

[MachDiamond]

"I remember encountering an army convoy on the Mi. Moving slower than anything else on the road but with outriders in front, not at the back."

They might be slow, but the spacing will be spot on. Priorities.

Military vehicles can be a real B to drive. I know somebody that has a few and they are so primitive it boggles the mind. I can get in a commercial heavy truck from the same year and drive much more easily and comfortably. I expect the cost to purchase the commercial vehicle was far less money as well. I do understand that military vehicles have to cost more as the government won't cut loose with the money for them in under 6 months and commercial vehicles are paid for at the time of purchase (by the finance company most often).

[Peter Gathercole]

I was travelling along the M4 in South Wales one time that there was an international governmental event at Celtic Manor, and came across a couple of motorcades, probably carrying heads of state or other such high-up.

I was fascinated by the rotating police morotcycle escort. They would pass it slowly, travelling up the lane outside of the motorcade, then pull in to the hard-sholder (for people not in the UK, this is an unused lane intended for breakdowns to get them off the carriageway) and wait for the motorcade to pass, then pull up to the back again and repeat.

With several police motorcyclists doing this, plus another couple permanently guarding the front and rear of the motorcade, they were able to keep other traffic out of the lanes next to the motorcade itself.

I had never considered such tactics, but in retrospect, they make a lot of sense.

[MatthewSt]

U

Hard shoulder!

Don't give them excuses to drop the U out of words!

[Anonymous Coward]

I remember doing that with siege tanks in Starcraft. It's an excellent tactic.

[MachDiamond]

"Meh

I've encountered Prime Minister motorcades a few times on the M40/A40 back when Theresa May and later Boris Johnson used to travel that way regularly."

The closer you live to a major city, the more chances you have to encounter these disruptions. In the US it's the season where large corporations purchase elected officials through "campaign contributions" and the official being bought facilitates this through "fund raising dinners" where those corporate representatives have the chance to whisper in the ear completely off the record about what they expect to receive in compensation for the "donation". This involves lots of "dinners" and driving from one function to the next. Traffic snarled a right mess and a bitch to make any flight plans too.

[MachDiamond]

"I've never encountered a Presidential motorcade, but isn't it just a sub-case of flashing emergency vehicle lights?"

It's a subset of any situation where you'd have a road closed with an person (often a police officer) directing/holding traffic. Could be a funeral procession, a heavy construction vehicle crossing the road, a duck family and all sorts of other things. I don't suppose that SF has many/any places where duck might cross, but it would look really bad for Waymo if there were and one of their cars flattened a bunch of ducklings. It might be somebody trying to flag down cars due to a sink hole or other serious roadway damage. You wouldn't want to be in the back of a Johnny Cab that goes sailing off a collapsed bridge or piece of road that has washed out due to a water main break.

[Ghostman]

My guess is they hadn't been trained on Presidential motorcades, so didn't know how to deal with them.

They had probably heard her speaking her "word salad" remarks and wanted to teach her how to make sensible replies to questions.

[cmdrklarg]

Your native language must be Florida Orange Man-glish if you're having trouble understanding Harris.

[codejunky]

Hmm

Maybe the robotaxi was as confused as the President.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

He's no longer president, and won't be again. Give it a year, you can visit him in prison.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

So who is running the US? Ohhhh... you were trying to make a funny about Trump!

[Zolko]

Re: Hmm

So who is running the US ?

Although I know you meant it to be funny, but actually I'd like to know the answer to this question. It obviously isn't Joe Biden, nor Kamala Harris, so ... who ?

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@Zolko

"Although I know you meant it to be funny, but actually I'd like to know the answer to this question. It obviously isn't Joe Biden, nor Kamala Harris, so ... who ?"

I have asked this for months. Still nobody can answer

[Grinning Bandicoot]

Re: Hows running

A couple of unnamed clerks in a small dingy windowless space that have rubber stamps . One Yes, the other No. Their choice is how blank xx is filled.

[MachDiamond]

Re: Hmm

"It obviously isn't Joe Biden, nor Kamala Harris, so ... who ?"

Same as it's been for ages. It's the handlers, consultants and image experts. It's been shown recently that it isn't the Presidential Cabinet. Maybe it's Dr. Jill. It's not Congress. AOC embarrassed herself again in calling for the abolition of the US Supreme Court for being "unnecessary". When she was first elected (who knows how), she knew nothing about the structure of the US government. She still seems to be very unclear about a great many things most children had to learn in school. It's been some time since I escaped the institutions and I can still remember quite a lot of what we were taught in Civics classes. Of course, this was long before we had to know about CRT, DIE, etc so it was much less confusing.

[John Brown (no body)]

Re: Hmm

"So who is running the US?"

In theory, "The People". In practice, the two Houses, with some input from whomsoever is the current President. The President can't actually do all that much without the say so of the Houses, as we see whenever $party1 has the Presidency and $party2 controls both Houses.

[CowHorseFrog]

Re: Hmm

Do you really think any PM or P "runs" the country... ?

[GenericLeftieWhackjob]

Re: Hmm

He'll win if it comes to legalistic maneuvers and technicalities. The question is more: do people in America care enough about making their part of the world a decent place to live to reject this prison bitch-style right wing authoritarianism?

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@GenericLeftieWhackjob

"reject this prison bitch-style right wing authoritarianism?"

Authoritarianism? When? Biden defied the supreme courts even after they declared his student debt forgiveness illegal. John Kerry was explaining the difficulty of democracy and that they need to stop freedom of speech. We already saw Trumps administration and it wasnt authoritarianism. Instead when covid hit the left cried because he wouldnt be an authoritarian.

Also Harris and Biden have done so well that she will now fix things if you vote for her to do what she should already be doing.

[codejunky]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

@GenericLeftieWhackjob

"I find it fascinating that you took such stock in the "prison bitch" line you had to reply."

Really? Why? Here is your line- "reject this prison bitch-style right wing authoritarianism?". You are aware you connected the 'bitch-style' words and the only part of your entire comment that said anything was calling him for 'right wing authoritarianism'.

Why would you be surprised that I only responded to the only little bit of your comment with any content and question why you dont call out such from the left? I didnt respond to your childish 'prison bitch' part, it just happened to be part of the line that said anything, even if it was wrong.

[GenericLeftieWhackjob]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

You know what? I'm adult enough to admit that was a low blow so I withdrew the personal attack because that was low.

It still does not erase the fact that the ideology Trump and his associates stand for is ultimately of a weak mindset, driven by the same impulses that created the Soviet Union: mediocrity for all, managed by a supreme ethnic group, unfortunately.

[codejunky]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

@GenericLeftieWhackjob

"It still does not erase the fact that the ideology Trump and his associates stand for is ultimately of a weak mindset"

Why? Prioritize America first (he is aiming to be their President again). End the forever wars and bloodlust. A self sustaining country and prosperity for its citizens. What is so wrong with that?

"driven by the same impulses that created the Soviet Union"

I dont get where you relate Trumps ideology and the Soviet Union. Those would surely be polar opposites.

"mediocrity for all, managed by a supreme ethnic group, unfortunately."

This is a new one on me. Where are you getting this idea from?

Contrast that last part you say with the 2016 election where Obama was trying to convince everyone of the 'new normal' low growth etc. Then tried to claim credit for the great economy under Trump. Yet amazingly when people talk about Trumps economy they skip all of it except the last bit when covid hit and Trump still did a good job.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

I'd love to know where they get these ideas from. They are becoming more and more unhinged.

Hillary has come out and said that prior to the debate Joe Biden was still good but somehow, suddenly, unexpectedly it all went to crap on debate night and he had to go. To anyone with eyes, ears and at least 1/3rd of a functioning brain they could see Joe was declining in 2020 and kept going downhill.

[Jamie Jones]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

> End the forever wars and bloodlust.

Trump bowed the pressure fro warjhawks to tear up the Iran deal.

He ended up overseeing a massive U.S. military buildup in the Middle East during his term and nearly went to war with Iran.

Also, quoting JD Vance:

""A lot of people recognize that we need to do something with Iran—but not these weak little bombing runs," Vance said in a Fox News interview at the Republican National Convention on Monday. "If you're going to punch the Iranians, you punch them hard, and that's what [Trump] did when he took out [Iranian Gen. Qassem] Soleimani."

Vance praised Trump for trying to "enable the Israelis and the Sunni Arab states" to fight back against Iran. In a speech to the Quincy Institute in May, Vance tried to sell a U.S.-Israeli-Arab alliance as a way for the United States to "spend less time and less resources in the Middle East."

Matt Duss, the executive vice president at the Center for International Policy wrote:

These pieces all rest heavily on the claim that Trump launched no new wars. That’s true as far as it goes. But it was certainly not for lack of trying. Trump might not have started any wars, but he massively inflamed existing ones—and came close to catastrophic new ones.

Let’s review the record. Despite inveighing against “endless wars,” Trump massively escalated the country’s existing wars in multiple theaters, leading to skyrocketing casualties. In Afghanistan, he substantially upped the amount of airstrikes, leading to a 330 percent increase in civilian deaths. In Yemen, he escalated both U.S. counterterrorism activities and support for the devastating Saudi-led war against the Houthis. According to the United Kingdom’s Bureau of Investigative Journalism, there were 2,243 drone strikes in just the first two years of Trump’s presidency, compared with 1,878 in the entire eight years of the Obama administration.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

Is this the Iran deal that is basically letting them stockpile weapons grade material?

[codejunky]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

@Jamie Jones

"Trump bowed the pressure fro warjhawks to tear up the Iran deal."

I dont remember Trump going to war with Iran, when was that? He did tear up a bad deal the Iranians were exploiting. If that is a concern however why would Biden unfreeze a load of Iranian money?

"He ended up overseeing a massive U.S. military buildup in the Middle East during his term and nearly went to war with Iran."

So no war with Iran. And crippled ISIS. And prepared to take the US out of Afghanistan.

"Also, quoting JD Vance:"

And what is wrong with that? You dont want the US to go to war in Iran do you?

"Matt Duss, the executive vice president at the Center for International Policy wrote:"

I love how no matter how desperate to complain he skewers himself instantly- These pieces all rest heavily on the claim that Trump launched no new wars. That’s true as far as it goes.. He can cry in his mug all he likes but his first line trips him up. The crying that follows is ending of wars instead of a prolonged forever war. Dont like it dont war.

[MachDiamond]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

"Why? Prioritize America first (he is aiming to be their President again). End the forever wars and bloodlust. A self sustaining country and prosperity for its citizens. What is so wrong with that?"

I think due to this being an international forum that people not in the US see the more sensationalist "news" regarding the candidates.

There hasn't been many candidates in the last several decades that have been worth voting FOR, but plenty worth voting AGAINST. It's a sad state of affairs. Not even the non-mainstream political parties have been able to field a candidate worth their salt. I know as I've looked and when I read their platforms and statements, I immediately think "whackadoodle". I'd think that one of them would be in a great position to field somebody with centrist views for the most part that has all their teeth, good hair and can speak grammatically. I'm saddened not to see that. The main two parties have sunk so far below the surface that all they can come up with is the anaerobic bacteria growing in the mud that reeks when brought above the waterline and into the light.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: hit dogs will holler.

"mediocrity for all"

You do realise that you've got this completely bass ackwards. The drive for mediocrity for all as you put it is from the political left. Affirmative action where standards are lowered as it would be too much hard work to actually try and do better and equity where you are rewarded for laziness.

[Richard 12]

Re: Hmm

Clearly you've not listened to any of the words Trump has said over the last year. I'm not surprised, they are rambling and extremely hard to follow.

He intends to be a dictator-for-life. He's said so repeatedly, and has been given carte blanche by the Supreme court to do so.

Of course, Trump is rather ill, is clearly in terminal mental decline as he can no longer string coherent words together, and is not particularly likely to survive four years, which would leave Vance with the absolute power granted by Roberts.

Your country stands on the brink of an abyss, and has the capability to drag the rest of the world with it.

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@Richard 12

"He intends to be a dictator-for-life."

When did he say so? What did he say?

"given carte blanche by the Supreme court to do so."

Has he? I know the Supreme court had to explain the executive is the President which has always been the case but the various lawfare against Trump needed to ignore that. Also Biden defied the Supreme court which defined his student loan forgiveness as illegal, and then he did it again anyway. And no, the 3 branches of government exist to keep the others in check which is why there was legitimate concern when Biden and the dems considered court packing.

"Of course, Trump is rather ill, is clearly in terminal mental decline as he can no longer string coherent words together"

This is not a disqualifying point according to the Dems and Harris. Remember that Biden was called for his mental decline before he got elected and during his presidency. After the poor debate where everyone saw it on stage suddenly everyone knew Biden was in mental decline and all covered for him. Even now Harris is not doing her duty of taking over from Biden. But also you know you are spouting bull because Biden is in such decline while Trump is still out and about campaigning AND beating down the lawfare efforts. Not something mental decline would allow.

"not particularly likely to survive four years, which would leave Vance with the absolute power granted by Roberts."

This is in the realm of stupidity as Biden was all set to run again and in his now very publicly known state. And even in such a state Harris never took over so are you saying Vance would take his duty seriously while Harris hasnt?

"Your country stands on the brink of an abyss, and has the capability to drag the rest of the world with it."

Not quite, I live in the UK. I get to watch them stand on that abyss and hope they dont vote 4 more years heading into it.

[Richard 12]

Re: Hmm

"You'll never need to vote again"

When pressed, he repeated it.

Thanks for proving that you haven't listened to a word he's said for at least two years.

I guess you're a paid up Tory member and will be voting for whichever is the most batshit racist.

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@Richard 12

"You'll never need to vote again"

Another of the debunked claims. What did he say? Who was it to? What was the context? I didnt realise people were still claiming that one.

"Thanks for proving that you haven't listened to a word he's said for at least two years."

Oddly it seems maybe you didnt. You posted a debunked statement. What is surprising is how many of these long debunked statements are still claimed.

"I guess you're a paid up Tory member and will be voting for whichever is the most batshit racist."

Again no, not a tory member nor a member of any party. I have no loyalty to a party, I just vote for who I consider lest bad, and rarely, good.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

Context only applies the other way around. So when a talking head goes on the TV news and says that 'someone needs to put a bullet in Trump' there is always some missing context and that they didn't mean an actual bullet.

[ThomH]

Re: Hmm

Citation needed. Any one example will do.

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@ThomH

Here are a few-

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1835759467482542153

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

"Your country stands on the brink of an abyss, and has the capability to drag the rest of the world with it."

So you don't think that it is even slightly iffy to have a publicity stunt signing shells that are going to be shipped off to a proxy war to kill people?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y30244467o

I totally agree with the bee on this one:

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-will-start-world-war-iii-says-party-autographing-bombs-to-be-launched-at-russia

We ARE teetering on the brink of an all-out war and the drooling current president and his word salad VP along with the warmongers in the house and senate are pushing it along. You keep claiming that certain things will happen under Trump but they have happened under Obama and Biden.

[Jamie Jones]

Re: Hmm

You aren't a stupid person, so you are either entirely ignorant about American politics, or you are the biggest shill/troll ever.

Ever heard of Project 2025? And don't come out with "Trump knows nothing about it". 90% of his staff are responsible for it.

Here are some other Trump nuggets:

"Infested countries"

Post-election "bloodbath"

Immigrants are "animals"

"Nobody better" than Hungarian strongman Viktor Orbán

The Great Replacement "conspiracy"

Immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of America

"Dictator" for a day

Root out "vermin" and the "threat from within"

Execute generals

"Lock up" political enemies

"I am your retribution"

Terminate the Constitution

Dining with Nazi lovers

More: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-fascist-talk-bloodbath-vermin-dictator-1234992957/

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

"Post-election "bloodbath""

Uh huh, he was talking about an economic bloodbath from 4 more years of Bidenomics.

"Root out "vermin" and the "threat from within""

People on this forum have used the term 'MAGAt' to refer to people they have lost the argument to, so careful with the accusations of dehumanising language.

""Lock up" political enemies"

Even on this thread someone mentioned Trump and prison, so again pot/kettle.

"Terminate the Constitution"

John Kerry is on record saying the 1st amendment gets in the way. This is nothing new.

"Execute generals"

Wasn't that one of Cassidy Hutchinson 'I overheard someone say that someone said that their cousins brother saw him at 31 flavours last night' things?

As for project 2025, I'm already voting for him, you don't need to keep selling it ;)

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@Jamie Jones

"You aren't a stupid person, so you are either entirely ignorant about American politics"

I live in the UK. So it is possible I dont know what is going on over there. I do read news from around the world but dont assume to know everything which is why I ask questions.

"Ever heard of Project 2025? And don't come out with "Trump knows nothing about it". 90% of his staff are responsible for it."

Except there is no reason to think it has anything to do with Trump. I know the dems keep trying to pin it on Trump and claim he was somehow involved but it honestly sounds like another lie.

Thats a bit of a list to go one by one so-

"Post-election "bloodbath" and ""Dictator" for a day"

Both of those were debunked by reading what he actually said.

""Nobody better" than Hungarian strongman Viktor Orbán"

As Hillary found by calling people deplorable, mean comments only make them like you less. Considering Trump is willing to talk to other ELECTED LEADERS he doesnt go and make his job harder. Kinda like when he said nice things about Kim Jong but still made it clear he would wipe N.Korea off the map if he mistook it for weakness.

""Infested countries", "Immigrants are "animals"" and "The Great Replacement "conspiracy"

I would love to know what he actually said for these. I think I heard of the replacement conspiracy, is that the one about fraudulent ballots from illegals? If so isnt there a lot of resistance to implementing safeguards around this, considering it never happens?

"Execute generals"

Trump hasnt executed any has he? Or do you mean strikes against terrorists?

""Lock up" political enemies" and "Root out "vermin" and the "threat from within""

Do you mean go after the various corrupt and criminal? I would think so too. Hell the current sitting president wont even be prosecuted because of his mental state for doing worse than Trump (classified documents but without the legal authority to have them).

"Terminate the Constitution"

Did he actually say that? Was it in the context of the 2020 election... oddities? The Georgia case was based on that wasnt it? The one run by that corrupt woman and her cheating lover? The case that ran into problems because Trump is the executive and it is his duty to ensure free and fair elections. I like how people act like 2020 was squeaky clean (but not 2016 obviously) and yet at the time a good portion of democrat voters didnt believe the result was honest.

"More: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-fascist-talk-bloodbath-vermin-dictator-1234992957/"

Seems you need a better source. That one seems to be spinning a lot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

"Except there is no reason to think it has anything to do with Trump"

Is this view/comment naive or stupid? Could go either way.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

Is this an example of borefare?

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

Unfortunately it seems my humorous comment has some people confused, understandably. The current President is Biden. I know he pretty much doesnt seem to exist anymore leaving the question of who is running the country (and why Harris isnt currently President) but technically Biden is still the executive office even if he may not remember that.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

Unfortunately it seems my humorous comment

New material not working out?

Stick to the hits. Give them "Lawfare".

[John Brown (no body)]

Re: Hmm

"I know he pretty much doesnt seem to exist anymore"

To be fair, that's hardly a surprise when you consider how US media operates with less than 40 days to the election. It's entirely possible that he's getting more done now there no distraction with campaigning. Most of politics is boring and never gets reported.

[codejunky]

Re: Hmm

@John Brown (no body)

"It's entirely possible that he's getting more done now there no distraction with campaigning."

He was on various beaches. Then he held his first full cabinet meeting in 11 months, which he handed over to his wife to do. Said his goodbyes to the UN. He got to meet some heads from around the world but forgot who he was introducing (the video is funny)-

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1837640465484574902

But since they have all now finally admitted Bidens mental state are you still believing he is running anything?

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Hmm

"Maybe the robotaxi was as confused as the President."

Then maybe next time they shouldn't elect Robotaxi.

Vote Johnny Cab.

Steering Towards A Better Future!

[CowHorseFrog]

This story must be fake, i heard from Musk that AUTOPILOT will be solved in 2015.

[imanidiot]

There's your problem! It wasn't a Tesla.

[CowHorseFrog]

Just wondering is Trump for or against Robo taxi autopilot cars ?

[Someone Else]

Yes!

And No!

Depending on what day of the week it is, whether or not he can personally monetize the answer, and whether or not the robo-taxi industry will "really, really like" him.

_{Oh, and how many robo-taxis will show up at his "rallies"...}

[John Brown (no body)]

"Oh, and how many robo-taxis will show up at his "rallies"..."

Way Mo-re than ever turned up at Obamas rally-X :-)

[MachDiamond]

"Just wondering is Trump for or against Robo taxi autopilot cars ?"

Like any politician, he'll have a statement to upload after the polling is done on that.

[Grinning Bandicoot]

Only if they are foreign animals

[DS999]

That's actually dangerous

Getting a presidential motorcade to stop in a given location could be the first step in a plan to assassinate (or kidnap, if you're a Hollywood writer) a president.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: That's actually dangerous

> Getting a presidential motorcade to stop in a given location could be the first step in a plan to assassinate (or kidnap, if you're a Hollywood writer) a president.

Also, the software has probably been supply-chain poisoned by Mossad so don't ride one in Beirut if you happen to look like this week's Hezbollah leader.

[codejunky]

Re: That's actually dangerous

@DS999

The assassins only seem interested in Trump

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: That's actually dangerous

Gotta take a real good look at yourself when your own side starts taking potshots at you.

[codejunky]

Re: That's actually dangerous

@AC

"Gotta take a real good look at yourself when your own side starts taking potshots at you."

And a serious look when the other side are doing it. And when the other side is promoting this kind of action in their extreme rhetoric.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: That's actually dangerous

RWNJs shooting at Trump doesn't magically make them Democrats, you doofus.

[Bump in the night]

Coincidence, I think not

I just saw I Robot starring Will Smith last night on DVD. This clearly is a sign.

[I miss PL/1]

Even AI hates her.

[Anonymous Coward]

As proven by a thousand Russian bots on X.

[Anonymous Coward]

terrorism

If this was the UK and if the robotaxi had been operated by an environmental group, they would have been accused of terrorism for blocking traffic.