Iran's cyber-goons emailed stolen Trump info to Team Biden – which ignored them The Iranian cyber snoops who stole files from the Trump campaign, with the intention of leaking those documents, tried to slip the data to the Biden camp — but were apparently ignored, according to Uncle Sam. In the ongoing saga of that IT compromise, in which Tehran swiped info belonging to the campaign of Republican …
I did.
The subsequent comments to this article only serve to confirm my impression that this "story" is just bullshit about American politics.
It's a shit article with an offensive sub headline and clearly shows the Register's USA bias since it was transformed from the best tech news site in the Internet into a poor shadow of its former self.
's funny, you know ... I don't hear much screeching from the Dem side. All the noise sans signal seems to be coming from the other side (I hesitate to call them "Republicans", because the Cult of Trump isn't, not really).
I don't hear much screeching from the Dem side...
You're joking right?
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/18/russia_putin_trump_white_house/
You'd think after the fully debunked Russiagate hoax, that the Dems and MSM ran with in 2016, they would invest in a new playbook, but apparently not!
I can't imagine what kind of information would be so devastating to a campaign that it absolutely has to be kept secret. After all, if you look at the slate of candidates the GOP's fielding this cycle -- not just the candidate for President -- there's some pretty strange ones, some even qualifying for the coveted "You really couldn't make this stuff up" award.
The biggest danger with this sort of unsolicited material is blowback -- false flag, deliberately planted information and so on. Since we're already in YRCMTSU territory anyway the best thing you cold do with any material like this is note it and delete it.
I think it was Politico (memory only here and quite hard to search) who said they received an anonymous version of this info. Or at least some of it. What they said they were offered was a 200 page political biography written by the Trump team on JD Vance - this is standard practise in the US when you're looking to select a candidate for vice president. It's basically all the stuff they've said and done taht might be awkward, useful or controversial. So you can either choose someone else, or prepare your defence beforehand.
In the case of the Vance document, it was full of him saying disobliging things about Trump. Which would obviously be embarrassing.
They said they were told it was obtained illegally (the wording was something like: If I told you where I got it from you might not be able to use it).
That doesn't seem that damaging a leak. Much of that stuff willl come up in a standard news archive search.
I've not seen details of anything jucier.
Whether it is useful or not, I believe it is illegal for a campaign to accept help from foreign sources. (There is a long-standing allegation that Nixon accepted help from Greek generals in 1968 which, if they were prosecuted, would have prevented him becoming president and had quite a significant effect on world history. There are also allegations that he invited the Viet Cong to nobble the Paris peace talks in order to let him present his predecessor as a failure. That would also have counted as foreign help.)
Of course, there is also the more recent history of the Clinton-Trump battle and email servers.
If the Biden campaign know their history and their law, they'd be running a mile from any suggestion of foreign actors feeding "useful" stories into the campaign.
If the Biden campaign know their history and their law, they'd be running a mile from any suggestion of foreign actors feeding "useful" stories into the campaign.
These are the people who hit 50 odd former/? intelligence service personnel to go on record & tell the world Hunters laptop story was false / misinformation etc.
anon because many here like to take sides while I have no side to take!!!!
Trump did say in 2016 that if a foreign government offered him dirt on his opponents "why wouldn't I listen?" so if the democrats did use it they would only be doing what said he'd do - what he did do in accepting the help from Wikileaks.
Unless you're dumb enough to believe that they "just happened" to time their releases of information when Trump had bad news he wanted to bury like the "grab her by the pussy" scandal, and Roger Stone was known to be in direct contact with Wikileaks.
The problem with using that Iranian information is that Iran doesn't favor either candidate, they are just a chaos agent who wants to our election to be as messy as possible. So there's probably a very good chance they'd slip in some fake stuff with the real stuff so they can get a two-fer, scandal for Trump's campaign if there's anything bad revealed, then scandal for Biden's campaign when it was discovered some of the information was false.
Not to mention, Trump loves to play in the dirt and nothing seems to stick to him for very long. He'll happily throw anyone under the bus to save himself, and since he never sends emails there wouldn't be anything incriminating written by him. It would all be dispensable underlings, and before long we'd hear his tried and true "I hardly know that person" but they'd know he'd bring them back in his administration if he won.
Oh come on, you can't say the "grab her by the pussy" story was "buried". That one ran and ran.
The co-ordination between Trump and Wikileaks was effective, but it wasn't that finely tuned. The campaign clearly told Wikileaks what period to spread releases over and what sort of intervals would work best (for them), but they didn't just reach out and drop stuff on demand, in real time.
Nothing to do with the subject matter of the article - but for anyone wanting a 44 year trip down memory lane to 1980, Book of the Week on BBC Radio 4 this week is the above mentioned book, about the siege at the Iranian Embassy in London, and the storming by the SAS
So I can fool with those buttons... you know, the ones that magically make the gas prices go up and down... and the one that mystically makes the inflation go up and down. The one that makes the dollar weaker... You know, all those things that we elect a president to do!
Changed my icon from D'oh to getting my coat.
If it were me, I'd ask one staffer to nip down to Target and buy a new, cheap laptop, use it for the sole purpose of opening those attachments, then wipe and destroy it afterwards. Nobody ever to enter a name or password, or type anything except commands on this machine, and nothing to be taken from it by any medium except human memory or pencil and paper. And, obviously, make no response of any kind to the communications.
... but the Russians clearly want Trump in the White House, and the Iranians clearly DONT want Trump in the White House.
Is there anyway, we can get those two to start fighting against each other? It would be quite funny if the Russian trolls started putting out a bunch of pro-Trump propaganda, only for the Iranians to come and start shooting it down. It would save us all the effort of dealing with the pair of them...
I wonder who China wants in? I would actually guess the democrats, just because Trump is so erratic and untrustworthy, he could act like the best friend to Xi one day, and then turn on him the next. but I guess all they really want is more and more discord in the US, so that they're less of a threat in general (because they're too busy fighting internally to worry about the rest of the world).
Well, the Biden administration did nothing to lift Trump's tariffs on China, and has imposed several more, including a new batch announced just last week. So I don't think you can cast Harris as their candidate.
As with all tariffs, the net effect is to funnel more money from ordinary people to big corporations. So of course both parties favour them, but Trump probably more so.
Putin doesn't give a crap about what hurts Russia, he's shown that much. But Ukraine is important to him, because he's personally identified with that fuckup.
Economic damage to the country is easy to blame on the West, particularly as it really will be America's fault. But backing down from Ukraine? - that's something Putin personally probably wouldn't survive.
What Vlad says he wants, and what he actually wants are likely two very different things.
Vlad would want Trump as president because he's already talked about downgrading NATO, and stopping support for Ukraine. Something the Dems have not come out and said.
But for many Americans, being seen as favourable to Russia would count as a negative. So if Vlad came out and said he supported Trump that would be an extra nail in the coffin for those on the fence. So what do you do? You say you support the other person, and hope that the fence sitters think that ringing endorsement from Vlad, will turn people back to voting for Trump.
I doubt it has any effect on the vote for Harris to be honest. There's no real connection there, but it might distract a little from the whole Trump-Vlad love-in that took place when trump was in power. So why wouldnt you give it a try...
I believe we all (including trumpers) can agree that Trump and many on his team are wrongun’s.
The thing is the Biden/Harris (whatever their party is) are also wronguns.
America has 2 bad choices come their elections.
I just hope and pray to deity that they make the right choice.
The fact that Democrats never got to select Harris & overwhelmingly selected Biden reminds me of the mess we had when conservative members chose Truss then the party ejected her in favour of their guy Rishi. Don’t forget Borris called an election which was thought through the Supreme Court and when he got the go ahead the nation voted him a larger majority but Rishi lost by an even huger margin.
Whatever slim notion of democracy we had when Truss was elected, albeit only by party members, we lost when Rishi was promoted.
Harris was gifted the same fortune.
Party affiliates never got a choice.
Not sure how far back you need to go to see a similar circumstance, looks unprecedented.
No I don’t get a vote, but as a global citizen it impacts us all.
Biden got the nomination because the DNC wanted him to have it and blocked any candidates that could have been serious opposition.
So we wind up with a Democratic candidate who has never won a single vote in a primary... and the Democrats claim to be the party that will "save democracy".
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