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Hours after confirming they had pwned the supposedly uncrackable encrypted messaging platform used for all manner of organized crime, Ghost, cops have now named the suspect they cuffed last night, who is charged with being the alleged mastermind. Australian national Jay Je Yoon Jung, 32, of Narwee, New South Wales, was …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Not a conspiracy theory

    Drug trafficking is unbelievably profitable with volumes comparable to GDP of whole countries. If there was a single conspiracy theory to rule them all, it would be this one. Watch this scary documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNQgipcBJUk

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Not a conspiracy theory

      Without at least some sort of teaser review of it from you, I doubt anyone reading here is going to chance being rickrolled. You might have better luck on Reddit, the tech savvy audience here is voting what they think of your information-free post.

  2. katrinab Silver badge
    Black Helicopters

    "[...]and in doing so have seized drugs with an approximate street value of €16 million ($17.82 million)"

    Do Irish cops use the same valuation scale as British cops where that is actually something like 1g of coccaine?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      200kg or so

      They seized 100kg on Monday, and quoted values of EUR6M or EUR7M for it. From the various news reports in the Irish media it appears that the other EUR8M is based on previous seizures made due to intelligence from Ghost.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: 200kg or so

        These "losses" are factored in the price of the product, so it won't make any difference to the markets.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Do Irish cops use the same valuation scale as British cops where that is actually something like 1g of coccaine?"

      To loosely quote from the 2011 Irish comedy film The Guard (really worth seeing):

      "Street value. You always announce a seizure of drugs worth a street value of ten million dollars or 20 million dollars or half a billion dollars.

      I do wonder what street it is you're buying your cocaine on, because it's not the same street as I'm buying my cocaine on."

  3. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Competition

    This is not about tackling "gangs", but more about ensuring the criminals only use established encrypted platforms.

    They never do "crackdown" on mainstream sites.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Competition

      You are posting some real shit today.

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    WTF?

    200kg ? Is that all ?

    Look, I'm very glad that you dismantled a violent criminal network, don't get me wrong, but I can put 200kg of anything in the back of my Skoda Fabia.

    That is not an impressive amount to me. Can't you find anything better ? In the boatload range, for example ? I don't know, a ton or more ?

    200kg sounds like a Saturday at Cosco. If these guys were such criminal masterminds, you should be able to find that under the sofa.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

      The ship load (2 tons) was last year - the MV Matthew. They seized another 100kg of cocaine, along with 700kg of cannabis, last month at Rosslare. There have been other reported seizures over the summer. But this is just Ireland. The big seizures seem to come in Belgium and the Netherlands.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

        These seizures make no difference to the markets.

        1. Jonathan Richards 1 Silver badge
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          Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

          Who gives a stuff about the market prices? This isn't some effort to manipulate the market price, it's an effort (seemingly somewhat successful) to dismantle the supply of drugs, and the violent criminality that goes along with it.

          1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

            Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

            Did you hear about supply and demand and how it affects prices?

            This makes no difference to supply and demand and thus makes no difference to prices.

            If anything this may increase violence as void created by arrests may cause fighting between parties wanting to take over.

            1. Jonathan Richards 1 Silver badge
              Mushroom

              Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

              I asked "Who gives a stuff about market prices?", and apparently the answer is you, @elsergiovolador. Anyone would have thought you had a vested interest.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: 200kg ? Is that all ?

          You really are immune to the truth aren’t you, do you not notice that all your multitude of posts get significantly downvoted because they are so bad? Like saying these seizures make not difference. 200kg is 200,000 Grams, which can also be expressed as 200,000 “deals” that cannot be done, and some of those buyers will not be able to find another dealer.

          A seizure not only denies the market of the product seized, it makes some potential dealers decide on another career path.

          Bit like you should ElfGobbler, you are no good at this one!

  5. coderguy

    Modified Smartphone

    So unlocked Android device with a custom AOSP build then?

    I doubt the actual hardware is an different, I'm anticipating a ban on using custom ROMs soon.

  6. DS999 Silver badge

    Even if the cops only infiltrate one of those custom crime phones every year or two

    It puts the worry into the criminals that maybe they are unknowingly using one of the compromised devices.

  7. DeKrow

    > "using Ghost, in Australia and overseas, to import illicit drugs"

    Wow, apps can do that these days? There goes international shipping as a business.

    Oh, wait, now you're telling me they just communicated about importing illicit drugs on the app? So, why is the app author in trouble and yet all the other platforms are free to continue sharing materials related to the four horsemen?

    Oh, you're telling me it was exclusively used by criminals? Because only criminals would want their communications encrypted?

    Aaaah, now I get it, you're one of those countries that only has the really difficult societal problems left and so you're moving in the police state direction to maintain an appearance of "doing something" in order to justify next year's budget / votes.

    I'm so for preventing murders and the bad, scary things that actually happen in meatspace, but the demonizing of the essentially harmless electronic 'admin' hasn't yet worn thin after half a century of chasing "dangerous hackers". The powers-that-be are just as scared and clueless about technology now as they were in Mitnick's and Crunch's days, despite having grown up in and around it.

    If science progress one funeral at a time, society only progresses one military-industrial-politico-complex at a time.

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