US govt halts medical study into Havana Syndrome, cites 'coercion' of participants An inquiry by the US government's National Institutes of Health (NIH) into Havana Syndrome – the seemingly mysterious illness that struck down American and Canadian diplomats in Cuba and then around the world – has been halted after it was found the study's participants had been coerced into taking part. On Friday CNN noted …
Havana Syndrome emerged in 2016 when US personnel started reporting headaches, auditory hallucinations, headaches, drowsiness, and a host of other problems in Cuba.
And such has nothing at all to do with enjoying more than just a few Mojito, Daiquiri or Cuba Libre.
When in Rome on a dodgy mission how else does one try to blend in and not attract unwelcome attention other than going all native ? :-)
They are one of the best funded organizations of the world with some of the best contacts to all kinds of engineers, scientists and top notch high tech companies from Keysight to Perkin Elmer.
But they cannot deploy HF wave monitors, they cannot sample their food and check with the latest analytical machinery ? They cannot deploy sound loggers ?
Instead they can just GUESS and theorize ?
I can also guess: it is the fear of operating inside hostile countries without speaking properly to the locals. The fear of talking to the enemy. Every day. Maybe they should work on dialing down the fear ? Just talking to a KGB guy does not hurt, but it could lead to better understanding of the other side.
Besides, when you talk to a random Russian or a Cuban, there is approx. a 80% chance you do not talk to the opposing force. Many of them are actually very interested in your viewpoint, your way of life, your hobbies etc. And they will share something of their life. That in turn will reduce your own stress levels.
I have had tinnitus for years - an engine and and infamous high pitched noises. I need ear plugs for gigs. Despite exposure to music in Cuba the tinnitus went away - completely - for the first time - and no ear plugs required. Back in France now, it instantly returned - with a vengeance. And yes, it's noticeably worse with an electric car! And yes, computers crash around me all the time. IT support dude turns up only to make things worse ...
Go to a medical university hospital. One of the students will get excited that maybe you have an exciting disease for them to discover. They'll order the tests.
Of course you'll have to argue with the insurance company when you suddenly get better. Maybe it just turns out that drinking lots of fresh lemonade makes you sick as hell.
If that doesn't work they could always try becoming an Olympic athlete.
U.S. Athletes Are Taking Full Advantage of Free Healthcare in Olympic Village
She had a doctorate in the subject. Specifically, the title of her thesis was "Deterritorializing gender in Sydney's breakdancing scene: a B-girl's experience of B-boying". Sadly, for Australia's Olympic dreams, no one thought to look into whether 'deterritorializing' required one to be proficient at breakdancing.
Downvote because I think the totally unfair attacks the australian breakdancer has endured is *WRONG*.
The olympic spirit has been well and truly *missed* in that case.
She has been forced to apologise for her performance ... NOT GOOD ... and so unfair.
Do the athletes that come last in the Track & field events suffer the same attacks and do they get hounded to apologise ???
She did her best and that is all you can ask !!!
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"Do the athletes that come last in the Track & field events suffer the same attacks and do they get hounded to apologise ???"
Here in the UK, an athlete coming last is a bit meh! But, coming spectacularly last can make one a hero, for a few weeks. Eg Eddie the Eagle. Although to be fair, he did have some disadvantages and didn't actually do that badly out of it. The wiki page is a worth a quick read :-)
I think the reason Eddie the Eagle enjoyed more praise is because there were no other British ski jumping Olympic applicants. In this case, there were plenty of other Australian applicants and, whether there was foul play in the selection process (unlikely) or not, there is a feeling that she potentially 'stood in the way' of someone who might have done better.
I listened to a very interesting interview with a US journalist called Michael Weiss - who's written a lot about intelligence. He thinks it's the Russians - specifically a GRU unit - and says he's shown pictures of known GRU agents from other operations to victims and they've identified them as having been around at the time of the "attacks". GRU have had a lot of operational successes, but been very lax in security - like the team that got caught by the Dutch hacking into the OPCW (Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Warfare - to get data on the Salisbury Novichok attack) also had data they'd hacked from WADA (the World Anti-Doping Authority), which they'd been trying to hack in support of Russia's doping program. So they can trace some of those peoples' movements.
He thinks the government aren't admitting to it, because they don't know what to do about it, and it's hard enough dealing with Russia at the moment. I'm at least half convinced.
For another example there was a rumour about ten years ago that the Russian government were paying bounties to any Taleban fighter in Afghanistan who killed a US serviceman. The US government denied it publicly. Because embarrassing, and what are you going to do? I don't think it's proven or anything, but the CIA's assessment is apparently still that it's very likely to be true. However it's much easier to publicly deny it - rather than try to do something about it.
Putin's intelligence services have broken a lot of the "rules" that were mostly adhered to in the Cold War. As a way of not having an escalating "war" between intelligence agencies. So why not this? They tried to murder Skripal who'd been exchanged - which is a massive breach of the "rules". He'd been officially pardonned in Russia, before being released - and if the Russians thought he was a danger, they wouldn't have swapped him.
In general a bit of honest spying and diplomacy is actually good for international stability. Getting spied on is obviously bad but it makes your enemies less likely to panic and think you're about to launch a surprise attack. Plus if you're not murdering their spies, they hopefully won't murder yours - so you can hopefully find out if they're planning to attack you.
Yes. That’s the point. If true, which is a big if. It’s a global attack on US intelligence and diplomatic personnel, breaking all the unwritten rules of international intelligence, and several written rules of international relations. It’s high risk, even for the current Russian regime. But deniable, unless the GRU fuck up. They’ve got away with a lot of assassinations, and even blowing up a warehouse full of weapons in the Czech Republic. And most of this happened before the full scale invasion of Ukraine.
Perhaps if there’d been a coordinated response to these , and other Russian moves, Putin might have been deterred from launching that invasion.
David 12,
He's done a bunch of research, with other journalists, and come to a conclusion. Like it or not, he's at least worth listening to.
I've listened to some of his other stuff - and it's mostly well researched and I've not caught him out in any errors - so I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
He's making big claims here, so needs big proof. But it's not a stretch of the imagination to think that governments might not be telling the truth in intelligence matters. Particularly embarrassing ones, with no easy policy response.
A big problerm is mirroring. We assume the opposition see the world in the same way we do. However, someone like Putin is probably of a much more conspiratorial mindset than most people who grew up in relatively open and free democratic societies can understand. I've heard good analysts claim that he genuinely believes all Western democracies are basically fake "managed" democracies like Russia. It was a common view in Soviet circles that NATO was basically a mirror of the Warsaw Pact (which wasn't an alliance but a Soviet empire) and that the US pretty much told everyone else in NATO what to do. And that Putin still shares that opinion. So to him, Ukraine have no agency. They're basically a US puppet and he wants them to be a Russian puppet. So if Ukraine take some action, like invading Russia, it's only because Biden told them they could. Rather than what seems to have happened, which is that the Ukranians looked at all the places they wanted to launch offenses, counted all the trenches and minefields - and decided to attack somewhere without any of that.
In reverse there are clearly lots of Western politicians who can't get their head round why Putin won't behave "rationally" as they see it. Because he just doesn't see the world the same way they do. And this is common through history. It's how you can easily get misunderstandings that start wars.
Putin keeps pushing away, niggling at Western powers. A bit of election interference here, a murder there, a quick mini invasion somewhere else. And if he doesn't get sufficient pushback he thinks that all the Wester politicians are lily-livered wusses who don't have the will to respond. Right up until he goes way too far and invades Ukraine - and suddenly there's a massive reaction he didn't predict - and it all goes horribly wrong. But now he's committed - and because he still believes his opponents are fundamentally weak he decides to carry on and keep the war going until they get bored and abandon Ukraine to its fate. It's a hellishly expensive policy choice in terms of the Russian economy and society, not to mention the tens to hundreds of thousands of extra deaths.
But then to him, I think he sees divisions as weakness. Which in some ways they are. But the strength of a democratic system (when it's working) is that public disagreements can get thrashed out and the winners of the argument can then have the legitimacy to pursue that policy. Another weakness is that we sometimes change policy too often, but on the upside - in a democracy Putin would have losthis job for the utter clusterfuck that is his Ukraine policy - and so rather than doubling-down the war would be over by now.
In 1939 Hitler couldn't believe that Britain and France would actually fight for Poland. Whereas they thought that by telling him in advance that they'd actually fight this time - it would deter him from war - because negotiating after the fact kept failing. Maybe the only way to stop that war would have been to put their money where their mouth was and have actual troops on the ground.
Before the invasion of Ukraine Canada, the US and UK gave the Ukrainians lots of training. But didn't really arm them - because we didn't want to escalate tensions with Russia. What I'd guess Putin sees as a lack of willpower. Perhaps if we'd armed Ukraine it would have annoyed Russia, but also stopped them attacking. But that meant pain now for (in particular) European leaders who wanted a quiet life of buying Russian gas and turning a blind eye when Putin did something disobliging.
Maybe Putin genuinely belives his essay from 2022 - that Ukraine isn't a real country and all Ukrainians are basically just misguided Russians. Led astray by Lenin's mistake in 1922. In which case there may have been no way of deterring him short of letting Ukraine into NATO. But I suspect that his plan was a quick 3-day march on Kyiv - murder the Zelensky government, put in a puppet regime and then leave and take some weak sanctions from the West - mission accompolished. Ukraine back in Russia's orbit. Ukrainians wouldn't really fight too hard and he'd shown everyone his genius. But had we pushed back on his bullshit more, he'd have been more wary. And had we given Ukraine a couple of billion dollars worth of good military kit, he'd have maybe thought he couldn't get away with a win in a week, and the risk would be too high.
Counter-factuals are of course mere speculation. But what is certain is that the West's collective Russia policy for the last ten years has been a massive failure. A failure that has failed to prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths in Syria and Ukraine - that with better diplomacy might have been avoided. Not that there were great options in Syria, but we could have done better.
Perhaps you could launch and share speculation and informative opinion in another 939 words on the wisdom of the intelligence used which has the West doing its weapons supply and spy in the sky intelligence thing in the Middle East in support of Israeli incursions, tens of thousands of innocent civilian deaths and wanton scorched earth destruction of infrastructure in Palestinian lands.
They do say that truth is the first casualty of war and the mainstream media are absolutely useless at telling it like it really is whenever their jobs and/or their lives depend on them not revealing it.
It is no wonder so many are turning off and tuning in to alternate views and refusing to pay for mainstream media news telling them nothing good they can rely on to ensure the future is better tomorrow than was promised yesterday for delivery today and which always, never ever seems to come.
amanfromMars 1,
The Israel situation is complicated.
Quite why you think the mainstream media aren't giving the truth about that situation is beyond me though. The media are full of criticism of the Israeli government.
However, you yourself show one of the areas where the media fail. We have no idea of the number of innocent civilians killed. The media report Hamas' own statements on it as if they're broadly true - while managing no independent scrutiny of that data - and usually not even bothering to mention the uncertainty. Of course independent media weren't welcome in Gaza before the latest orgy of violence kicked off - and it wouldn't exactly be safe to operate there now.
However perhaps I might accuse you of just a touch whataboutism here. You reply to my above (over-long) post about the dangers of not deterring Putin with a pretty argument-free answer saying, "but what about..." Plus you can't play the pseudo random-generated word salad poster/forum jester and then at the same time try to join the serious discussion. You can do both, but separately.
Or, of course, I've just fallen for the AI trolling. In which case well done. But I rather think you're trying to have your cake and eat it.
The Israel situation is complicated. ..... I aint Spartacus
The Ukraine situation is surely no less complicated, I aint Spartacus, as it certainly definitely has all the same telltales signs of easily applied, remote foreign allied media manipulation with the subjective sharing and non-sharing of a contrived narrative for the presentation of a particular picture in peculiar service of any number of invested vested interests/war machine provision manufacturers/fantasy and money and trade markets movers and shakers/paranoid sociopaths/pathological psychopaths. ....... N'est-ce pas?
amanfromMars1,
Yet again, the word-salad, while also maybe trying to join the proper discussion. Perhaps pick one and stick to it? Otherwise you've just made no argument, it's gibberish.
But to answer your point - no. The situations in Palestine and Ukraine are totally and utterly different and share few similarities. Other than that they're awful, and that innocent people are suffering through no fault of their own.
The Gaza situation is hideously complex and there is no easy option for Israel to withdraw. They tried that in 2005 - when Israel unilaterally withdrew all its settlements and presence in Gaza. The West Bank was more complex and so remained largely occupied. The people of Gaza chose to vote for Hamas - in a broadly free election - Hamas who's founding charter calls for genocide against Israel. So you might argue that the people of Gaza freely voted for permanent war with Israel. Probably not though. More likely it was disilusionment with the Palestinian Authority, the PLO and Fatah in particular. Plus Hamas did lots of charity/humanitarian work. Or election bribes paid for by the Iranian government (as you could also call it - because that's what it also is).
We can never know what the people of Gaza want, because Hamas are a vicious dictatorship who've never allowed an election since - and who accuse anyone they don't like of being an Israeli spy so they can murder them.
It's a long and complex history, but in this particular instance Hamas broke the status quo and launched a massive attack on Israel. Sadly Israel have an awful government - and so you have the situation we se, of war crimes on both sides on a huge scale and an irresolvable situation. The leadership of Hamas don't want peace, because they don't give a fuck about their own people, they're believers in a cause - and further are instrumentalised by Iran for Iran's own ends. If Netenyahu makes peace, that's the end of his government and probably career - quite possibly he'll be off to prison for corruption a few years after that.
Meanwhile in Ukraine. Russia launched an unprovoked war of naked imperial aggression on a neighbour in order to seize territory and annex it to itself. After invading Ukraine in 2014 and seizing and annexing Crimea. And then invading Ukraine again in 2015 to get its forces into a supposed Ukrainian "civil war" - which its side was losing. A civil war whose pro-Russian leaders weren't Ukrainian, but were Russian nationals most of who have served in the Russian intelligence services. i.e. It wasn't a real civil war, it was also a Russian invasion but on a smaller scale.
So in the last 10 years, Russia has launched 4 separate invasions of Ukraine. And annexed 5 Ukrainian provinces, Crimea, Kharkiv, Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia (curse you for making me look up the spelling). Admittedly they've never controlled all the territories of the 4 other provinces they've annexed...
So one is a complex conflict that's been going on since the 1920s, in its current iteration - and arguably for thousands of years before that. And the other is Vladimir Putin's imperial project, while Russia was under no threat from Ukraine.
Looks likes we'll have to settle and agree on all such shenanigans being extremely disagreeable and polarising, I aint Spartacus, and focus on something else to pass comment on and ponder and wonder on what another audience might think and care to share.
Thanks for the chats. Have a beer, it’s Friday again here.
Title: The Stark Reality of Havana Syndrome: A Firsthand Account and Global Conspiracy
Havana Syndrome, often dismissed as a psychological anomaly, is a real and terrifying affliction that I have personally experienced and investigated over the past six years. This syndrome is characterized by acute auditory and neurological symptoms—headaches, dizziness, and even loss of cognitive functions—first reported by American and Canadian embassy staff in Cuba. My own encounters and subsequent research have led me to uncover disturbing truths about a technology capable of these attacks, which I now possess and understand.
The technology behind Havana Syndrome leverages medical patents that are alarmingly accessible to the public and can be modified into weapons. These devices are not only capable of causing intense physical harm but can also implant voices in people's heads, creating the illusion of two-way communication. This capability indicates a potential for widespread brainwashing and manipulation, which I believe is linked to numerous global incidents of violence, from mass shootings to tragic domestic conflicts, often involving the most vulnerable: children and women.
The lack of transparency and acknowledgment by world governments, including the United States, suggests a cover-up of monumental proportions. The potential misuse of such technology hints at a dystopian reality, reminiscent of a worldwide MKUltra project, where data collected on human behavior could be used to advance robotics and warfare technologies.
The moral implications are dire. Those who have developed and disseminated this technology are indirectly responsible for untold suffering and countless deaths. It is crucial for global citizens to demand accountability and justice for these hidden atrocities.
As someone who has firsthand experience with this technology, I can attest to its existence and its horrifying capabilities. Despite the challenges in proving its use and impact, it is imperative to bring these issues to light. We must confront the possibility that our global reality is manipulated by forces that view ordinary lives as expendable. The pursuit of truth and justice is not just necessary; it is a moral imperative to prevent further abuses and ensure a future where such technologies are never used against innocent people.
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May we expect "Agent Triple X" to post a reply to the above, from the 'other side" (KGB,not GRU). All we then needs is a "@JAWS" to complete the trio
My own encounters and subsequent research have led me to uncover disturbing truths about a technology .... our global reality is manipulated by forces that view ordinary lives as expendable .... capable of these attacks, which I now possess and understand .... 007UK
Here's some free advice, 007UK, which does not need you to either have to wait or rely on anyone or anything else, knowing now what you now know, possess and understand to prevent further abuses and ensure a future where such technologies are never used against innocent people, for there certainly be A.N.Others, which may be significantly greater and many more than just any Chosen Few may ever even imagine themselves to be, who have long ago known and understood such a global reality is a manipulated technology and how to confront/contort/comport/abort/export/import it via remote relatively anonymous virulent and practically autonomous virtually omniscient means and alien memes/SMARTR COSMIC* Generative AIs and LLLLMs ....... by just doing IT themselves with what AIs provide.
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Canada has already looked into it and the neural damage is due to excessive fumigation due during the Zika virus outbreak.
Zika virus is a mosquito borne disease found in tropical areas and the variant which was going around at the time was causing serious birth defects (babies with tiny heads). It was a very hot topic at the time and the US response to this was to increase the frequency of fumigation in their embassy buildings and associated housing. They hired a fumigation company from the US (Florida) to do the work. Canada hired the same company and followed the same fumigation schedule.
The result however was that while this was effective at killing mosquitoes, employees were exposed to excessive levels of insecticide. The insecticide used is a neurotoxin and overexposure to it causes exactly the symptoms found. Testing of Canadian foreign affairs staff found the neurotoxin in question in their bodies. The evidence for this is pretty much as good as it can get.
In Canada it's considered case closed. Health care is free in Canada, so there's issues in that regards. I don't know if the employees received any compensation for long term health issues affecting quality of life.
In the US however, there seems to be a reluctance to admit what the problem is. I suspect that this may be due to fears of getting sued in what is a notoriously litigation society and fears of being held to blame and fired over the decision to fumigate that much.
There are also probably a few American diplomats who where not exposed to the insecticide but have convinced themselves that they have the same symptoms when they are in fact just having a psychosomatic reaction. The US diplomatic service is big enough that there will be a number of people in it who are prone to that sort of thing.
This is almost certainly psychosomatic. That's not to say the people are "faking." The symptoms they're experiencing are very real. But they're caused by hearing about other cases.
It's a lot like cops supposedly ODing after touching fentanyl. Fentanyl isn't meaningfully absorbed through the skin, and the symptoms they report are more like panic attacks than opioid overdoses. Cases didn't really start to appear until videos came out claiming that you could overdose just by touching it.
But you can't tell a big macho cop that he had a panic attack, any more than you can tell a trained CIA operative that their own brain sabotaged them.
Another example is Morgellons Disease, a disorder where people think that tiny parasites or fibers are erupting from their skin. Actual analysis generally shows them to be clothing fiber, hairs, or even nerve endings that people have dug out of their skin. Morgellons is caused by hearing about Morgellons.
If a weapon, attack vector or exploit capability exists (and we know for a fact that these weapons and tools do exist) then you can be 100% positive that every defense agency and criminal enterprise are developing it and developing defense against it whether they choose to admit it or not. There is no possible way that sonic and psychotronic attack capabilities are not being developed and subsequently tested on human subjects whether or is with their knowledge and consent or not. This is indisputable logic. To deny the development or deployment of known technology simply identifies dishonesty in whoever is making the denial.
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I'd be amazed if Russia, America and most other powers were not trialling sound, light, heat and just about everything else as a weapon of obvious or covert torture. It's what they do - state supported torture at Guantanamo Bay, killing a journalist in your consulate or using chemical weapons in public. The CIA will have wanted to discover what it was so they could deploy it. They certainly wouldn't publicly report a way of negating it, if they could deploy it.
Maybe someone slipped something toxic in the paint, carpets or white board markers. Sick building syndrome isn't new, and governments weaponise everything.
As for the coercion. If you are employed by government, especially spook services, you are presumably considered to be a slave of the state. It's not like they obey laws or anything. Laws are just for us unimportant people.
The United States of America is using the electromagnetic spectrum to gather intelligence they use emp and radar thermal magnetic pressure and power up off of the human body's brain waves they can read your thoughts it puts of signal they can manipulate you when you are being manipulated you will feel the symptoms of electromagnetic radiation and your body will have more pressure you will feel your throat move and they can shock you at different points your heart for instances to manipulate pulses signal corps nsa use it it can be read with a sound graphic analyzer and they communicate through the POWER they use lasers you can also use a emf meter to tell if they have "dropped a line" and your body will show higher levels than normal
The throat will get scratchy too
Overload of power on the electronics probably why systems down and reading of brain waves may be why they have the passwords
Rf heating can cause different smells rotten eggs
Augusta TECHNET colonial pipeline
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