back to article Elon Musk claims live Trump interview on X derailed by DDoS

Elon Musk has blamed a "DDoS" attack for a forty-minute delay in the start of his live-streamed interview, hosted on X, with presidential candidate Donald Trump. The interview was hosted in an X Space – the service's platform that allows live-streamed audio content. Kinda wild to watch a billionaire who relies on government …

  1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?

    The tycoon also stated that as Tesla makes electric cars and that he's really into solar power, he should not be assumed to hold right wing political views.
    Fortunately we don't have to assume because you won't stop telling us.

    1. AlanSh

      Re: Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?

      And, fact checking his other statments:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpn2q76n1o

      1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

        Re: Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?

        Wouldn't it be a lot simpler to list the statements that are substantially correct?

        1. AlanSh

          Re: Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?

          That wouldn't take very long.

          1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
            Unhappy

            "That wouldn't take very long."

            I think that's their point.

            A good first approximation listening to the FOCF is a)He'll be incoherent b)He'll lie c)He'll misdirect with some blatant behaviour that will divert people's studying what he did say, or just as often not saying.

            That last one has proved highly successful. I'm reminded of Ray Weir's advice to people dealing with paedophiles. Basically "Quell your disgust at their behaviour. It is counter productive. Stay focussed on what you want to achieve in talking to this person."

            Advise the msm could do with following more.

            1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

              Re: "That wouldn't take very long."

              Advise the msm could do with following more.

              Based on the behaviour shown here, the MSM is doing just fine in creating useful idiots. Based on the MSM's financial performance, things are rather less fine. Which is probably why the MSM is soo butthurt about the views expressed on Musk and Trumps little chat.

              Well, just views. Apparenlty that chat generated over 1bn views, which is over 1bn more views than CNN, ABC, MSNBC and especially Bbc America got in the same timeslot. No fancy studios, no stingers, no overpaid anchors, just 2 dudes chatting on a stream. Oh, and maybe more views than the Superbowl? I wonder how many advertising execs are kicking themselves for listening to GARM & Media Matters, and missing out on that audience.

              But such are disruptive technologies and disruptors. Theirry Bretton's been thrown under a bus now that the EU's seen the reaction to his 'unauthorised' censorship demand and US election interference. But also why there's an unholy alliance between legacy politicians and the MSM.. they need each other. Until they don't, and then the MSM vanishes up it's own slick orifiice.

              1. Casca Silver badge

                Re: "That wouldn't take very long."

                LMAO, sure. You keep up your musk trump bootlicking.

            2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

              Re: "That wouldn't take very long."

              Dang, only one Musk fanboi out hitting the downvote button today? Maybe the others couldn't get in because of the massive DDoS being run against the Register forums (which only affects connections from "free speech absolutists").

    2. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Making an arse out of... wait what did you say?

      "he tycoon also stated that as Tesla makes electric cars and that he's really into solar power,"

      Interesting when they stopped breaking out the sales revenue of the solar panels they have made for them in China. It makes me wonder if they'll stop building the Powerwall in house and just rebrand Panasonic Evervolt products.

  2. Mitoo Bobsworth Silver badge

    Shelf life

    ‘Trump 2024’ is not a political slogan. It’s an expiration date.

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Shelf life

      Even a decisive loss at the next election will not get rid of him.

      1. the Jim bloke

        Re: Shelf life

        If people would ignore him for long enough, he would set himself on fire just to get the attention.

        tragically, they keep giving him positions where he can burn something valuable instead.

      2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

        Re: Shelf life

        For a man in his late '70s who subsists on a diet of McDonalds, I suspect the thing that will get rid of him will be a heart attack or a stroke. Speaking of which, some reports have mentioned a mysterious lisp he seems to have developed, the response to which, from his campaign team is a very mature and adult, "you need to get your ears tested". Speculation is rife, and is exactly that, and I am just repeating what I read, so a large heap of salt needs to be taken with it, I chose not to waste any of my life listening to two far-right bigots in an echo chamber.

        As it happens, though, I'm currently seeing a lot of people going onto Threads instead of "X", and not just using both for different audiences, but closing their "X" account as well. It seems that every time that Musk opens his mouth to spew out his ill-informed opinions about "civil war", or to retweet far-right disinformation (and then deleting it a few hours later without retracting it), more people choose to move elsewhere.

        1. Dr Who

          Re: Shelf life

          x -> Threads switchers is something I've noticed too. But .... are they all real? There seem to be too many almost identical "Threads is so friendly and nice. I had 100000 followers on X now I've switched to here and look forward to meeting you all and getting lots of followers.". That message is taking unfair advantage of Threads users' laudable but naïve urge to prove that the platform works as a nice X alternative. Classic click bait technique.

          1. katrinab Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            There's this - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/12/labour-mps-begin-quitting-x-over-hate-and-disinformation

            You may not be interested in following Labour MPs, the vast majority of people aren't interested in following the musings of any politician, but some people do, and they are on Twitter because Twitter allowed them to do that. If those MPs move to Threads, then their followers will move with them.

          2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            If they're smart enough to quit X for Thrreads maybe a lot of them are also too smart to fall for that.

          3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            >Threads is so friendly and nice.

            Well it certainly put a positive spin on life in Sheffield - I wonder if it increased tourism ?

            1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge
              Mushroom

              Re: Shelf life

              You'd have to ask the traffic wardens.

          4. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            I wouldn't know, most of the people I follow are those I either know personally, are friends of friends, or who are well known people. I tend not to follow random people on social media, and I have no interest in "influencers". When one of those accounts consisting of a picture of a scantily clad lady, with a name followed by a string of random characters follows me, I block them, as an obvious spammer/scammer.

            1. katrinab Silver badge
              Meh

              Re: Shelf life

              "influencer" is just marketing speak for well known person.

              1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                Re: Shelf life

                No it isn't. For example, a well-known broadcaster such as Professor Alice Roberts is unlikely to describe herself as an influencer, but I follow her, because she often has interesting things to say, and has connections to organisations I am a member of.

                Someone who spends all their time spouting on social media, and who has no real public persona beyond that, such as Andrew Tate, might be considered an "influencer" and might refer to themselves as such. That piece of human excrement can get in the bin.

                Some people who seem to only exist on social media and who spend their time earning not inappreciable amounts of money there, touting various things such as makeup or fast fashion, very much do refer to themselves in this way, and I have as much interest in seeing them as I do in seeing any advertising, which is nil.

                1. MachDiamond Silver badge

                  Re: Shelf life

                  " For example, a well-known broadcaster such as Professor Alice Roberts is unlikely to describe herself as an influencer, but I follow her, because she often has interesting things to say, and has connections to organisations I am a member of."

                  Liar, you follow her because she's pretty.

                  I'm joking, of course. Dr Roberts, while attractive underneath too much eye-liner, is extremely intelligent and the shows she presents are often very interesting.

              2. deadlockvictim

                Re: Shelf life

                "influencer" is just marketing speak for a shill.

            2. Arthur the cat Silver badge

              Re: Shelf life

              When one of those accounts consisting of a picture of a scantily clad lady, with a name followed by a string of random characters follows me, I block them

              I always wonder why they're so insistent I should put feline related information in my bio. They must be serious ailurophiles.

              1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

                Re: Shelf life

                They must be serious ailurophiles

                Everyone sane and sensible ought to be. *Far superior* to those damned canines..

                (For completeness, I have to declare that I do, in fact, posess 4 of those canine things. But two of them are dachshund youngsters (8 months and 6 months) and so don't count. And our youngest cat is much amused by winding them up then jumping up on something high and regally ignoring them. The other 3 cats are far too elderly to care.. (16, 16 and 17))

            3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              Re: Shelf life

              How do you know I'm not a scantily clad lady ?

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Shelf life

                You really don't want to know.

              2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                Re: Shelf life

                I neither know that, nor follow you on social media (probably - being pseudonymised means you might actually be someone I know).

                However, your user handle isn't something along the lines of "CandyM23423oj" and you aren't (yet) claiming to be a "Sweet American Girl" (I don't know why this seems to be the descriptor of choice on Instagram).

              3. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

                Re: Shelf life

                I'm a scantily-clad lady! And so is my wife.

                (Really, we must do the laundry.)

        2. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

          Re: Shelf life

          Unfortunately once he's gone we still have four Trump failchildren to contend with

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            Yes, but it'll likely take them a while to find another successful demagogue to rally around. And other elements of the Republican Party will vie for control in the meantime. (The next demagogue might co-opt the Democrats rather than the Republicans, or even finally be successful at starting a third party; no organization is immune to this sort of thing.)

            I think that probably worries a lot of the self-serving former anyone-but-Trump Republicans, such as Vance. Trump's demise is likely to leave the party in rather a shambles. That's partly why they're trying to gain as much recognition and influence as possible now, in the hope of being able to fight to the top of the hill when it all goes to shit.

            1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
              Unhappy

              the self-serving former anyone-but-Trump Republicans, such as Vance.

              Not really,

              As long as he "wins*" the election they won't be too bothered.

              The people behind the FOCF want him up front so he can start handing it over to the preferred SEL choice, JD "Shady" Vance. And then the real JD Shady will stand up.

              Once he's well enough known amongst the cult the days of the FOCF are truly numbered. The only question will be if they want to let his brood remain sucking on the corporate teat?

              Recalling how the Nazi's blamed the burning down of the German parliament building on the communists I'd guess the FOCF's backers would have him assassinated while blaming it on the Democrats, ideally implicating some of spawn to get them out of the way as well.

              And by "wins" I mean enough of those hand-picked electoral officials in the states fail to honour their legal obligation to ratify the count (which would a crime, which they should be reminded of) on hte day.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: the self-serving former anyone-but-Trump Republicans, such as Vance.

                Wow, blueanon has properly jumped the shark! You are quite unhinged.

                We've already had the Reichstag fire, it was Jan 6th 2021.

                1. Casca Silver badge

                  Re: the self-serving former anyone-but-Trump Republicans, such as Vance.

                  Good little anon maga...

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: the self-serving former anyone-but-Trump Republicans, such as Vance.

                    Do you add anything of value to the universe?

      3. VicMortimer Silver badge

        Re: Shelf life

        Yes it will.

        By 2028 he will be in prison, and he won't be getting out alive.

        1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

          Re: Shelf life

          Fingers crossed, but as the US has the finest justice money can buy (and a disastrous lack of separation of powers), I won't be holding my breath.

          1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
            Unhappy

            (and a disastrous lack of separation of powers)

            (and will have a disastrous lack of separation of powers)

            FTFY

            Because that's exactly what those members of the Feralist Society on SCOTUS have been busily arranging.

            1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

              Re: (and a disastrous lack of separation of powers)

              The fact that supreme court judges are politically appointed is an absolute abomination: it's so fundamentally f#cked up.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: (and a disastrous lack of separation of powers)

                Judges (SCOTUS and others) have been senate confirmed for a while, a recent major difference is in the polarization (up until somewhat recently, confirmation meetings were voted with near agreement across party lines). But yes, legislative power should not control appointments of the judicial, most democracies seem to get that right from the start.

                Some observe in relation to this that both parties fail to govern from Congress, instead try to force it through SCOTUS, which is not what it was ever intended for.

                1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                  Coat

                  "a recent major difference is in the polarization"

                  True.

                  AFAIK a lot of the US system was modelled on a)UK Parish councils b) Ancient Rome.

                  Rome also worked fairly well provided everybody played the game honourably.

                  I've never really delved into it but I wonder what happens if you apply modern games theory to the idea of setting up a "dictator proof" system, assuming most of the actors will act in bad faith, as the majority of SCOTUS have for example?

                  Just a thought.

                  1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

                    Re: "a recent major difference is in the polarization"

                    I'm pretty sure Byzantine fault tolerance in a political system is an unsolved problem.

                    I bet there are people who have posted about it on lesswrong, though.

                    (And, of course, there's the substantial anti-democratic movement among right-wing techies in the US; their answer is just "benevolent dictator", where "benevolent" means "for me, personally".)

              2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

                Re: (and a disastrous lack of separation of powers)

                Electing judges to SCOTUS would also have terrible results. So it's not like there's an obvious superior alternative.

                I mean, we could try having a highest court composed of people who hold hereditary titles handed out by other people with hereditary titles, mostly for directing other people to kill yet another group of people; but I know some folks who used a system like that for 135 years or so and gave it up as a poor arrangement.

                Maybe a scheme like "have an independent body that appoints a large pool of qualified experts, then draw a SCOTUS from that pool by random lot, with limited tenure" would work. But it'd be hard convincing the populace that it wasn't rigged. The current system is clearly biased, but the bias is transparent and predictable and it shifts over time among whatever major political ideologies are popular. For all its flaws, it has the sterling advantage of being universally disliked.

                1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                  Unhappy

                  hard convincing the populace that it wasn't rigged.

                  Start with fixed appointment terms or retirement ages so there will be a known minimum turnover rate.

                  Find ways to make it difficult (ideally impossible) for one side or the other to game the process.

        2. Lars
          Happy

          Re: Shelf life

          @VicMortimer

          I feel you are quite a pessimist. Why that late.

          1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            Re: Shelf life

            Probably the time taken to appeal through all the various layers.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Shelf life

          >By 2028 he will be in prison, and he won't be getting out alive.

          No he will still be being dragged from one court room to another - being attacked and humiliated and running up massive legal bills

          Better than 'house arrest' in a resort with its own golf course

          1. Snake Silver badge

            Re: dragged into court

            "Humiliation" simply isn't an option with him, he's done quite a job of doing that to himself already. To believe otherwise is living in a world of denial, or maybe Musk's plans for Mars.

            "Attack", now, that is up for grabs. It certainly would qualify as personal attacks...if only [the fraud case] wasn't proven true. We'll have to see if the government has good enough cases with the rest of it all.

    2. Bebu
      Windows

      Re: Shelf life

      ‘Trump 2024’ is not a political slogan. It’s an expiration date.

      Hopefully Project 2025 isn't America's.

      DDoS = Dumping Demented, Obnoxious Solipsists?

      A case of discarding the Trump-Vance krumpers for the three-four Harris-Waltz. :)

      Space Karen as Secretary of (altered?) State is one leg of the trousers of time that I definitely don't wish to dress on.

    3. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

      Re: Shelf life

      I really hope so. Things are looking a bit better at the bookies now, at least.

      1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Unhappy

        Things are looking a bit better at the bookies now

        Err, most of these folk aren't even on the ballot for President (Nikki Haley? WTF) and some aren't on enough state ballots to reach then the 270 majority needed in the electoral college, who actually decide who gets to be President.

    4. Groo The Wanderer

      Re: Shelf life

      I think he is well past the expiration date - the rot and stench coming from the Repooplicans is abominable up here in Canada!

      As to "DDOS attacks", those are called "users", Elon. And the Xitter took a dump under the traffic load, as it so often has ever since the Muskoid got rid of the most competent staff.

  3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Greatest cutter

    “I’d love it for you. You’re the greatest cutter,"

    Trump on the “government efficiency commission” that Musk has mooted.

    Unless I am mistaken, "Cutter" is also a term associated with the distribution of... Bolivian marching powder

    1. Aladdin Sane

      Re: Greatest cutter

      Can also be applied to people who self harm.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Greatest cutter

        Munchausen syndrome by proxy - a diagnosis for half of America

      2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Thumb Up

        "Can also be applied to people who self harm."

        Wow, "The greatest cutter" is a phrase that fits Musk like a glove.

        So many ways to understand it. So many true of him.

    2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Re: Greatest cutter

      Maybe he's just misremembering the film version* of V for Vendetta, and meant Sutler. People like Musk think that they are freedom fighters, but bear a closer resemblance to those who are fought against in dystopian fiction.

      *Those who have read the graphic novel will know the character's name is actually Adam Susan, but was changed for the film.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Greatest cutter

        Biden bears a striking resemblance to Sutler. As does Starmer! You got a loicense for that meme?

        Even Timmy Walz had his tattle line so you could dob in your mates like a good party member during the pandemic.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          Re: Greatest cutter

          Yeah, so does John Hurt, for some reason.

          If you look at the original character of Adam Susan in the graphic novel, he has a resemblance to none of those people. This, of course, means absolutely nothing, because, believe it or not, real people aren't based on works of fiction. Some would do well to remember this, and not try to emulate works of fiction either.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Greatest cutter

            I was not talking about physical likeness. More the shouty authoritarian likeness. Biden's blood red backdropped shouty speech from 2022 really sealed the deal.

            1. Casca Silver badge

              Re: Greatest cutter

              Good little maga muppet

            2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

              Re: Greatest cutter

              Well, since I'm not in the US, and don't have a library of US political speeches to hand (nor the slightest inclination to go and look up whatever you are on about), I'll have to take your word for it. Well, actually, I don't. It seems you know nothing about Keir Starmer, if you think he is some sort of firebrand. Since he has been in the job for little over a month, it's probably too soon to draw a decent judgement, but the overall sense is that he's a bit of a wet blanket.

              As for Biden, well, the general opinion of him overseas is pretty neutral. He seems to have been generally OK for your country, with the obvious caveat that he appears to be old and frail. Trump, on the other hand, appears to have been a huge embarrassment, especially on the international stage; both loud and obnoxious, and seemingly completely unaware of basic manners and protocol. Watching him barge in front of the late Queen on a state visit was simply excruciating, and very much the sort of thing that a comic-book authoritarian dictator would do. I guess it's hard to remove the rose-tinted glasses when you have sunk all that emotional cost into your "leader" of choice, though.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Greatest cutter

          Absolutely not - Starmer is Ronnie Barker

          And it’s good night from him

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Greatest cutter

      Presumably it would cut lavish public handouts to corporate leeches such as Musk?

  4. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
    Holmes

    Tesla's are anything but S3XY

    They are bland, boring and tbh shoddily built. i.e. Just like almost all other US made or designed cars. Luxury? ROFL.

    Elon is clearly bored with Tesla and possibly even Space-X and wants a senior cabinet post should the USA be so stupid to elect Dithering Don as POTUS in November.

    Project 2025 will make it very hard for Tesla to continue in business in the USA.

    Elon and Trump... A marriage made in the depths of hades.

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

      Project 2025 will make it very hard for Tesla to continue in business in the USA.

      I watched a LegalEagle video where they looked at the Project 2025 manifesto. Oh. My. God. The poeple who wrote Project 2025 eriously have learned nothing from 20th century history.

      1. RobvS

        Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

        "The people who wrote Project 2025 seriously have learned nothing from 20th century history."

        There is no need for them to learn about that century.

        If you look at their ideas a little closer, you'll see they want to live in the 19th century, preferably before 1860. They even love the flags and banners from that time.

      2. Someone Else Silver badge

        Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

        The poeple [sic] who wrote Project 2025 eriously [sic] have learned nothing from 20th century history.

        I beg to differ. They have learned much from the 1930s fascist Europe. They fully understand the power of propaganda, and how to wield it. They learned about coups and so-called "populism". And they learned how to subvert an election.

        I'd say they learned quite a lot from 20th century history. Just not the good bits.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

          And the current democrat party platform is not at all populist? Given that Harris is now supporting the no tax on tips that Trump proposed.

          Populism

          A political ideology that sees society as divided into a good people and an evil elite

          1. Casca Silver badge

            Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

            Same maga muppet or another? Hard to tell when they are craven muppets

            1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
              Unhappy

              Same maga muppet or another?

              Hard to say.

              Possible shift change at one of the troll farms?

              Weird how they are so proud to support big baby little hands but not quite proud enough to put their actual ID on a post is it not?

    2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

      Tesla struggling to do business everywhere is not a barrier to Musk getting paid.

      I just looked up Project 2025. If I believed in heaven that would be an excellent bunch of reasons for me to deliberately fail the immigration requirements.

    3. Lars
      FAIL

      Re: Tesla's are anything but S3XY

      As sexy as a soap box, something that has always surprised me. I mean seriously.

  5. Dinanziame Silver badge
    Trollface

    It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

    Twitter is not used to having so many users anymore

    1. EricM Silver badge

      It's understandable to _pretend_ it's a DDoS

      Sounds better than admitting you fired too many employees with a clue ...

    2. simonlb Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

      The Register tuned into the event a few minutes after its planned start and was offered elevator music

      My bullshit filter automatically plays elevator music in my head whenever Musk starts speaking. It's more coherent and never makes false promises of something being available 'in about two years'.

      1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

        elevator music

        What proper musicians call "yard music". As in "I'd like a tape 20 yeards long of utterly dire 'music' that has no value other than to cover up silence"

    3. hoola Silver badge

      Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

      My thought is that whoever was doing the DDOS was doing a service to humanity......

      (assuming that actually was the case, not just people trying to access the platform)

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

        "My thought is that whoever was doing the DDOS was doing a service to humanity......"

        Let me put my conspiracy hat on and claim it was Mr. Trump's own people doing it since it good for him to show willing, but had no value for his campaign. In fact, he'd probably do better by limiting appearances to just ones he's scripted and rehearsed so they're polished to a high chrome finish. Otherwise, all he would be doing is running against himself. Better to be thought a fool and all that.

    4. Mark 85

      Re: It's understandable to assume it's a DDoS

      As for the Musk/Twitter screw up.... after Musk got rid of many of his techs and engineers what did he think would happen? Musk is just as crazy as Trump.

  6. frankvw Bronze badge
    Facepalm

    Is this even worth commenting on?

    Hmmm..... No.

    1. TimMaher Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: No

      Then don’t comment @frankvw.

      Oh… damn!

  7. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Unhappy

    "Massive attack" you say?

    Top band. "Teardrop" video was epic.

    Interview.

    Rambling nutjob rambles. TBF the Musky one hasn't really faced any serious interviews in his entire life AFAIK. A real interview about his past would make him very uncomfortable.

    Clearly looking a) A job b) Some kind of "consultancy" gig IE how to get his hands on some choice USG owned assets at lowest possible cost.

    1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Re: "Massive attack" you say?

      If any interviewer asked Musk any serious hard-hitting questions about anything he didn't want to talk about, he'd throw his toys out of the pram and storm off in an instant. Well, not quite instant, he'd probably engage in some name-calling of the interviewer and threaten them that they'll never find work again first. He's so obviously a narcissist who, through sheer luck* has found success and who believes that he is some sort of demigod-level genius, despite the evidence to the contrary.

      *Luck in this case starting with being born into a very wealthy family, and "inventing" things by buying into things that other people had invented, at an early stage. He's exactly as skilful as any one of a thousand people who thought "I wonder if this bitcoin thing will go anywhere, I'll buy a dollar's worth" in 2009.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: "Massive attack" you say?

        "*Luck in this case starting with being born into a very wealthy family, and "inventing" things by buying into things that other people had invented, at an early stage"

        Don't forget mom dropping by with a spare $10,000 from time to time to keep Elon and Kimball's bank accounts topped up while they partied their way through college. A bachelor of ARTS in Physics, really? There's an economics degree in a box, in storage somewhere (Elon doesn't have a principal residence) although I think it could be a rumor since there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that sort of education.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "Massive attack" you say?

          IIRC Cambridge University awards BA in physics as well as other science related studies.

          However, that doesn’t mean it’s even remotely connected with this subject … but it does exist

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: "Massive attack" you say?

            And conversely there are Bachelor of Science degrees in the humanities — one of mine is a B.S. in English. (The department offered both a B.A. and a B.S.; they had somewhat different requirements, with the former including more breadth courses and the latter more in-field courses.)

            But as you say that says nothing about the quality of Musk's degree, or of the work he did to earn it. He doesn't strike me as the studious type, certainly.

  8. ghp

    What's worse than a madman at the helm of an important country?

    1. Felonmarmer Silver badge

      Or company.

      What's worse? Probably when they both get together.

    2. Sp1z

      My brain auto-translated that to "impotent cunt"

    3. Nematode Bronze badge

      Well, perhaps the entire history of the USA since WW2? I've just read Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner, a history of the CIA. Whilst Wikipedia tries to diminish the book, it then quotes it multiple times on its CIA page. Having read it, if even half of it is true, it's gobsmacking. Looks to me like Trump is merely the latest in a long line of incompetent uneducated idiots at the helm of the USA. It was Kruschev who offered the solution to the Cuban missile crisis. If it had been any of the US President's options.... It's a wonder we're still all here, not having been nuked to armageddon.

      1. JamesTGrant Silver badge

        It was (amongst others) Winston Churchill who said, ‘You can depend on the Americans to do the right thing. But only after they have exhausted every other possibility.’

        1. Bill Gray Silver badge

          I never quite understood why he limited that to Americans. Seems to be a basic human tendency.

          (I'd expect my fellow Americans to make that limitation. We believe in American exceptionalism.)

          1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

            TBH, he should have applied it to himself. He was a nasty bastard. Anyone who classes him as "Britain's greatest historical figure" or whatever, needs to stop shagging flags.

            1. graeme leggett Silver badge

              That's what you need in a war situation.

              1. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

                And as soon as the war was over he was voted out so fast his feet didn't touch the ground, resulting in a Labour government and the formation of the NHS

              2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                There are parts of his personality that were very useful at wartime. There were plenty of things that were not, such as his abhorrent sexism, or his unfortunate attitudes towards the Kurdish people who, as far as I recall, he referred to as "rats" and advocated murdering en masse with poison gas (you know, basically the same thing the West supposedly toppled Saddam Hussein for).

                This is part of the problem with people who cry "woke" when faced with people trying to teach all of history, and not just the revisionist version written by the winners. The history of the UK that we are taught at school, for instance, leaves out an awful lot (like anything to do with Ireland). I suspect the stuff that is taught now, after the last decade and a half of culture-war politics, is even more edited down to show England in only a good light. The fact remains that the greatest thing that we have done for a lot of nations around the world is purportedly to put their own Independence Days onto their calendars.

                As it happens, a lot of the life of Churchill (who, let's not forget, was born in a fucking PALACE), was lived in the heart of the British Empire, and all that this entails. There are still plenty of people about who think that imperialism was great, but those people are either vastly ignorant, or psychopaths.

                1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

                  There are still plenty of people about who think that imperialism was great, but those people are either vastly ignorant, or psychopaths.

                  Most politicians are ignorant, and either psycho or sociopaths. Clue was in the rebranding as 'anti-social personality disorders', hence why they're so anti-social media. Unless they can control that media. As for the history of the British Empire, all people really need to know is "perfidious Albion".

                2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                  Coat

                  " let's not forget, was born in a fucking PALACE"

                  Of which, TBH there are quite a few dotted around the British countryside.

                  The country is quite well known for them.

        2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

          'You can depend on the Americans to do the right thing. But only after they have exhausted every other possibility.’

          As was proved when they *finally* bothered to turn up in WW2 (despite their whole "leader of the free world" nonsense..). The Royal Navy offered to teach them convoy manouvers (which, by that point they had pretty much mastered). The USN said the equivalent of "no, we are the best Navy in the world and don't need you to teach us anything".

          And proceeded to lose lots of ships and convoys to U-Boats and had to go back to the RN to say "yes please".

          Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Atlantic#Battle_returns_to_the_mid-Atlantic_(July_1942_%E2%80%93_February_1943)

          1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
            Unhappy

            "when they *finally* bothered to turn up in WW2 "

            There's a passage in "The Cruel Sea" that didn't make it into the movie about the US eagerness to turn up.

            "That's no way to win a war."

            "No, but it's a great way to win the peace."

            Monserrat was quite correct.

      2. Fred Dibnah

        As any fule kno, the ‘Cuban’ Missile Crisis started with the USA basing nukes in Turkey, and ended when they took them away again. It should really be called the Turkish Missile Crisis imho.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          And as any fule kno that Molesworth woz selected in the UK to fly the flag - but who’s ? Chiz chiz

  9. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Happy

    "Bungler in chief"

    From Bryan Taylor Cohen on YT.

    Remember he did Ron DeSantis roll out campaign on X-formerly-Twitter.

    How well did that go?

    Could it be? Musk is trolling all of them?

  10. Alan Penzotti

    Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

    <BLOCKQUOTE> The Register has found no evidence of a denial of service attack directed at X. Check Point Software's live cyber threat map does not record unusual levels of activity at the time of writing. NetScout's real-time DDoS map recorded only small attacks on the US.</BLOCKQUOTE>

    Since there is no evidence of an outside DDoS, these reports don't count if the attack comes from within, especially if these fumbles are self inflicted.

    1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

      Re: Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

      It'd be funny if there was an actual conspiracy by Musk from within his own company to try to inflate and confirm the nonsense of the ludicrous conspiracy theories against him/right-wingers/white people that his lame-duck platform is peddling.

      1. Someone Else Silver badge

        Re: Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

        It would be even funnier (in a way) if there was an actual conspiracy against Nylon from within his own company....

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

          "It would be even funnier (in a way) if there was an actual conspiracy against Nylon from within his own company...."

          Did you think the periodic purges of employees was really just to trim the "dead wood"? Maybe it's that AND a show of force to let people know that if there are rumblings amongst the crew, the captain isn't opposed to flinging a random bunch overboard and requiring the rest to work even harder and just replacing people at the next port of call with promises of a large share in the ship's profits, er, revenue. We'll just gloss over that one must last the whole voyage to have a possibility of collecting, you can't see the books and what would you do if he didn't? Sue him? Bwahahahahahaha

          1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

            Re: Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

            Some employees do actually seem to fight back, and there's been at least a little success, too.

            1. MachDiamond Silver badge

              Re: Is it still a DDoS if it comes from within?

              "Some employees do actually seem to fight back, and there's been at least a little success, too."

              I'll still wager good money the abuse to kept promise ratio is pretty low.

  11. Korev Silver badge
    Pirate

    >"We tested the system with eight million concurrent listeners earlier today," Musk Xcreted ahead of the event.

    FTFY

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Internal tests don't replicate the same thing, so I'm not sure I'd believe that.

      It is funny that it reportedly peaked at 1.3 million listeners but Trump is claiming 60 million. He's so freaked out about Kamala's huge rally audiences he's resorted to making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about how no one is there and it is all "AI". The only one who has caught tinkering with rally photos is the Trump campaign - they released a photo showing Trump and the people directly behind him with the same guy in four different places! $1000 says Trump saw the photos, thought having open seats directly behind him was a bad look, and asked his staffers to fix it. The result was hilarious, and a great insight into how badly Trump's brain is broken.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        It is because he is constantly waving at non-existent crowds when arriving/leaving anywhere, he assumes that the crowd waiting at the airport for Harris are also not there.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          The crowd that produced no reflections on the shiny surface?

          1. Vincent van Gopher

            An aircraft fuselage is cylindrical, cylindrical mirrors barely reflect any image back.

            The actual video footage shows the real crowd - and it was big and wildly enthusiastic.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              An aircraft fuselage is cylindrical, cylindrical mirrors barely reflect any image back.

              This is blatant spreading of misinformation, in a vain attempt to hide the fact that Kamala's supporters are clearly vampires!!!

              <coughs>

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                That is just Nancy Pelosi.

              2. TimMaher Silver badge
                Holmes

                Re: vampires.

                But.. but… it was in daylight!

                1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                  Re: vampires.

                  This is serious stuff. Thousands of day-walkers is an indication that we are in an alternative timeline to the original ending of Blade where Deacon Frost was successful. Time to up the garlic content of my diet.

                  1. DS999 Silver badge

                    Re: vampires.

                    I'd be happy to become a vampire if I could be a daywalker, since it eliminates the primary disadvantage of "instant death if I'm ever exposed to the sun".

                    1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                      Happy

                      I'd be happy to become a vampire if I could be a daywalker,

                      Are you then, the human equivalent?

                      IE A carrot top ginger.

                2. MachDiamond Silver badge

                  Re: vampires.

                  "But.. but… it was in daylight!"

                  It must have been Vampyres from Überwald then.

                3. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

                  Re: vampires.

                  <milhouse>OK, here's what we got. The RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires...</milhouse>

          2. collinsl Silver badge

            There is absolutely no way at all in any circumstances that the Harris campaign could have faked/manipulated all of the hundreds of photos taken by several different people of the arrival and events.

            1. seven of five Silver badge

              It is a conspiracy! ~150m people in the US conspire against Trump.

              /s

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Look at the many videos from different angles and you will see that the crowd was well away from the airplane. There is no way you would see a reflection.

            If you believe the crowd was AI, you are so far down the rabbit hole that Thumper is tickling your sphincter.

      2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        I think we can agree that there were no real tests for 8 million, it was just stated to try and play down the problems.

        Video bandwidth is expensive so I'd be interested in the peering arrangements they have in general and what they did here: Twitter isn't a big video platform and it wouldn't make sense to have long-standing arrangements. But that also makes it unsuitable for one-off live video broadcasts.

        1. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

          I thought it was audio only? Takes some doing to screw that up!

          Speaking as someone who was involved in what I believe was the first ever live stream of radio by an ISP in the UK. That was at Nethead in Clapham (south London) in the mid 90s and the technology used was an aerial hanging out of the back window of the second floor office above a shop with cheap radio tuned to Capital Radio and its line out connected to the single rack of gear which was all you needed to run an ISP back then. Happy days!

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "He's so freaked out about Kamala's huge rally audiences he's resorted to making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about how no one is there and it is all "AI". The only one who has caught tinkering with rally photos is the Trump campaign -"

        Always, always, assume that any accusation by Trump, or any Republican politician, is a confession of guilt.

        1. collinsl Silver badge

          Most of what the Trump campaign says these days is projection of the worst possible sort. It's all "well I do it so they must be too".

          1. chivo243 Silver badge
            Trollface

            wasn't that the motto of Watergate?

        2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          It's straight out of the far-right play-book. Accuse your opposition of exactly the things you are guilty of yourself, so that you can deflect any legitimate accusations as "tit-for-tat". The thing is, the technique is a hundred years old, and "the worst president in US history*" desperately needs to come up with something that people can't see straight through.

          *One of the things he apparently said about Biden, but as which he has been described himself by historians and political analysts, according to the Independent. (note, as well, that I'd take anything in the Indie with a pinch of salt, given its ownership)

          1. cleminan

            It's not that 'far' anymore. It seems to have been the SOP of anyone beyond the centre-right ground for quite some time.

        3. Just Enough

          It's how egomaniacs think

          "Always, always, assume that any accusation by Trump, or any Republican politician, is a confession of guilt."

          Always this. Trump has zero empathy and zero imagination. He cannot imagine himself in anyone else's' shoes, far less have any idea of what other people might think, plan, intend or be motivated by. So any time he accuses someone of doing something, it's because that's exactly what he'd do, or is doing already.

        4. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          The thing is FeloniousTFG is the only person really obsessed with crowd sizes and ratings. Normal politicians don't really care about that, they prefer that people turn out to vote. They like to mention Kamala's crowds to trigger him.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Interview?

    You can't call this an interview. It was a chat with one of his backers.

    1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      Re: Interview?

      I was thinking the same thing. It’s not that different to Rishi Sinai being asked “great questions” by Tory Council members posing as a factory workers.

      1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

        Re: Interview?

        "Sinai" courtesy my iPhone keyboard. Apols.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          Re: Interview?

          Well, the guy is a bit of a "peninsular".

          1. TimMaher Silver badge
            Happy

            Re: peninsular

            … and has been deserted.

      2. Roj Blake Silver badge

        Re: Interview?

        Or, in the interests of balance, former Labour politician Ed Balls interviewing current Labour politician Yvette Cooper (who happens to be his wife)

        1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

          Re: Interview?

          Odd thing to get animated about when over on GBeebies you have serving Tory politicians interviewing serving Tory politicians.

          1. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

            Re: Interview?

            "GBeebies" - love it and will use the term from now on.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Interview?

        Melon Suk also had a similar chat with Mr Sunak.

    2. R Soul Silver badge

      It was a chat with one of his backers.

      Which one's which?

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Interview?

      "You can't call this an interview. It was a chat with one of his fluffers."

      FTFY

      wonder how many wet wipes musky had to use to wipe the orange off his mouth

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Interview?

        maybe the delay was caused by him getting cleaned up for camera!

      2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Coat

        "You can't call this an interview. It was a chat with one of his fluffers"

        TBH from what I've heard of this the fluffing was mutual.

        Yeah, I know. But that image is in my head as well. I'll be needing some strong mind-bleach for this one.

  13. mili

    Elon wants to follow Kamala

    Biden has done it, so why not Trump? Wouldn't that be epic if not only Biden steps down for Kamala, but Trump would do it for Elon, too?

    1. Paul Dx
      Thumb Up

      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

      Fortunately His Muskiness is not a natural born citizen of the USA so he can not be POTUS (unless they change the Constitution)

      1. Roj Blake Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        Or unless the Supremes change the definition of natual born citizen.

        1. Bebu
          Windows

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          Or unless the Supremes change the definition of natual born citizen.

          Murkier waters than one might have thought Natural-born-citizen clause (United States).

          Australia cannot be too smug here as a few years ago our Constitution's Section 44(i) cut swathes of disqualifications of sitting representatives from both parties.

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
            Devil

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            Bebu,

            Australia cannot be too smug here as a few years ago our Constitution's Section 44(i) cut swathes of disqualifications of sitting representatives from both parties.

            Either that, or your heroic courts destroyed an evil Kiwi conspiracy to infiltrate and overthrow your government, and destroy your very way of life!

            1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              or your heroic courts destroyed an evil Kiwi conspiracy

              I'm on the side of the Kiwis..

          2. cleminan
            Headmaster

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            Someone needs to go through those documents with a couple of s/Her\ Majesty/His Majesty/g and s/Queen/King/g passes.

        2. wolfetone Silver badge

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          Well I guess in some states in america a pizza is considered a vegetable and one of your five a day, anything is possible.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            In normal countries and states, orange turd is considered a vegatable, in red states the oranges turds are considered delicacies

          2. Someone Else Silver badge

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            Well I guess in some states in america a pizza is considered a vegetable [...]

            Comes on the heels of America's First Acting President declaring ketchup a vegetable. (Yes, this really happened.)

            And you thought that Ronald McDonald Regan was held in contempt, if not disgrace, by the MAGAts.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              The pizza as a vegetable thing was in 2011, under a democrat.

              The bill that resulted in the ketchup ruling was started by Carter, a democrat.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                Close, the ketchup as a vegetable was a Ronald Reagan thing. I don't remember Reagan be a Democrat either.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                  Re-read the post. The original bill that lead to the 1981 change under Regan was started by Carter.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                    The Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1981, intended to further cut expenditure on school meals (among other things), directed the Secretary to review the regulations to find cost savings.

                    With the result that the Food and Nutrition Service drew up draft regulations which included means for states to find alternate foodstuffs that met the specified nutritional components of school lunches (meat alternatives, wider definition of bread to include other foods made with wheat flour) which included a nod towards the different cultures across the states.

                    The text as an example used the phrase "credit a condiment such as pickle relish as a vegetable". And then a newspaper illustrated reporting on the regulations with a photo of a bottle of ketchup suggesting it would count as a vegetable. Despite all and sundry in school meals provision declaring they would never count ketchup as a vegetable, it was a convenient though inaccurate thing to berate the administration about.

                    That said the 1981 cuts seemed more extensive than the previous ones.

          3. Arthur the cat Silver badge

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            in some states in america a pizza is considered a vegetable

            IIRC California considers bees to be fish(*) (a hack on wildlife protection legislation to include bees).

            In the EU carrot is legally a fruit.

            (*) Or possibly they're amphibians. I'm not sure which they went for.

            1. MachDiamond Silver badge

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              "IIRC California considers bees to be fish"

              Ahh, the "science" of politics.

            2. graeme leggett Silver badge

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              In the EU carrots can be made into jam but I doubt you're going to find a directive that says carrot is a fruit

              A court ruled that because the California Endangered Species Act defined 'fish' for the purposes of the act as “a wild fish, mollusk, crustacean, invertebrate, amphibian, or part, spawn, or ovum of any of those animals." since bees were invertebrates the act could be used to protect bees. Insects were left off the original act.

          4. MachDiamond Silver badge

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            "Well I guess in some states in america a pizza is considered a vegetable and one of your five a day, anything is possible."

            They are the way I make them. Pizza is just food with more food on top. If you don't go mad with the cheese, it's possible to make a healthy pizza. What you get at the take away hardly consists of anything we learned was food when we were in school.

      2. nematoad Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        ...unless they change the Constitution.

        Musk is probably waiting to see if Trump get elected, as Trump has expressed a desire to "Terminate the Constitution."

        Then Musk can run for whatever post he likes, apart for President or Grand Panjandrum or what ever President for Life Trump decides to call himself.

        He won't call himself King even though he wants all the unaccountable power of an absolute monarch.

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          As usual, I don't think there is anything lost between these egomaniacs. Trump is interested in his own personal and dynastic power and would probably love to be able to nominate one of his children as a successor.

      3. Felonmarmer Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        "Fortunately His Muskiness is not a natural born citizen of the USA so he can not be POTUS (unless they change the Constitution)"

        And then as everyone knows it would be President Schwarzenegger long before President Musk.

        1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          And then as everyone knows it would be President Schwarzenegger long before President Musk.

          Is that before or after the Franchise Wars?

    2. sabroni Silver badge

      Re: Trump would do it for Elon, too?

      The thing is Joe gave up the race because he realised he probably wouldn't win. Trump doesn't need to win, he has enough people in charge of vote counting to be able to claim he won however people vote.

      Trump doing something for someone else? Yeah, you hold your breath and wait for that....

      1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Unhappy

        he has enough people in charge of vote counting

        Yes, that's the real worry.

        "To big to rig, too real to steal is a fine slogan," but the magarats have been more than planning how to do it for years.

    3. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

      It's probably already too late for the paperwork in some states. Biden waited probably just as late as possible to make sure it could only be Kamala and that the Republicans wouldn't have the chance to replace Trump. Trump is older now that Biden was 4 years ago so that his age should be considered a risk. But we know he's never going to stand down of his own accord, no matter how the elections go: losing the presidential wouldn't be good for the Republicans, but they had been hoping for a clean sweep with Biden being considered bad for the other elections.

      1. ThomH Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        In three states — Minnesota, South Dakota and Virginia — early voting starts on the 20th of September, i.e. one month and one week from today. They're followed by Illinois on the 26th, then most of the other states somewhere in October. So the paperwork hurdle isn't arbitrary; these places have ballots to print.

        Otherwise, yes, the first deadline is past; Ohio's cutoff was the 7th of August. Hence the announcement of Walz on the 6th. They promised special legislation to fix the problem if it had arisen but now nobody needs to worry about that. Ohio went for Obama twice but has favoured Trump in the last two elections and Trump is polling ten points ahead of Harris there so: (i) it'd be a bigger loss for the Republicans if they somehow ended up with the wrong candidates on the ticket there; but (ii) the establishment there is similarly GOP-heavy and therefore morel likely to get their act in gear if special legislation were required.

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        "Trump is older now that Biden was 4 years ago so that his age should be considered a risk."

        It's not the age as an absolute, but the mileage. Biden wasn't very sharp when he was vice President and had declined since then. Many find Mr Trump objectionable, but he's quite dribbling yet. Kamala is younger, but she doesn't seem like she was a good buy right off the showroom floor and now the squeaks and rattles are really bad.

        Just as there is a a minimum age to be a US President, there should be a best by date. Neither take into account the individual, but allowing that sort of thing would create all sorts of fighting. Two hundred years ago, 35 was an age where one would have likely been married, had children that were leaving home or, more likely, had a couple of children leaving with some that might still be in nappies. Longer life spans now with more wasted youth makes 35 a pretty young age for a President. On the other end, while life spans have increased, on average, are our faculties in those later years still good enough to keep up with all that's expected of a leader of a large country?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          Kamala has a similar problem to Biden in that she cannot speak off script. She's done the SAME speech at the last couple of rallies just with the location changed. She is going to get eaten alive in the debate.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            Felonious always does the same script.

            Starts with the weird dance that looks like he is either:

            * Trying to dry the back of his neck, but has lost his towel

            * Jerking off a couple of his mates

            Before moving on to talking about:

            * Windmills

            * EVs are evil (until last week when they remarkably became fantastic due to Musk)

            * Hannibal Lector

            * Stollen election (sic)

            * Sharks and electric boats

            * Countries sending all their criminals to the US

            * His besties Putin, Xi & Kim Jon Un

            * Jobs under him being better (nope)

            * Inflation being rampant (back to Fed 2% target)

            * Stock market being high due to him, except when there was the downward blip last week that was due to Biden

            * Coming up with new childish names for his opponents

            1. PerlyKing

              Re: Stollen election

              I'd vote for a stollen cake over Trump :-D

              <homer>Mmmm, stollen</homer>

              1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                Happy

                I'd vote for a stollen cake over Trump :-D

                Mmmmmmmm

          2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
            Unhappy

            She is going to get eaten alive in the debate.

            Ex-court prosecutors can usually manage pretty well in front of an audience.

            She's 18 years younger than the FOCF and she'll have had a full night sleep without a single rage-post.

            But I guess we'll see.

        2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
          Unhappy

          Two hundred years ago, 35 was an age

          when a lot of people would be dead

          Look up the stats for life expectancy 200 years ago in large cities.

          1. MachDiamond Silver badge

            Re: Two hundred years ago, 35 was an age

            "Look up the stats for life expectancy 200 years ago in large cities."

            You also have to look at the differences between people "of means" and the proles. Benjamin Franklin died at the age of 84 and many of his peers had very long life spans as well. A factory worker or farm hand, yeah, they wouldn't have lived that long.

        3. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          Many find Mr Trump objectionable, but he's quite dribbling yet.

          He was incoherent from the getgo and it was clear that this was also how he "governed". From where I sit, he's recently become even more erratic and incoherent.

          It's not my field but I did find Peter Zeihan's recent assertion that while Biden might be delusional, Trump was showing signs of dementia, interesting. And the problem for Trump is that he made Biden's age an issue. It wasn't one for Reagan, even though he became increasingly detached over time, but it will be for Trump because he made it one. And I don't think he did himself any favours picking a mini-Trump as a running mate; self-indulgent is what John Bolton called it.

          Personally, I don't think much of Harris either, I find her quite stilted and wooden, but the switch was well-handled by the Democtratic party, which is showing a degree of unity that the Republicans can only envy. in 2020 Biden showed that "anyone but Trump" was a winning idea and there's little reason to see why it won't be one this year.

          But American elections are very much like reality TV shows, so I'm only going to predict more surprises over the coming weeks and months, and lots more advertisting revenue!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

            "but the switch was well-handled by the Democtratic party"

            Flipping from 'we support Joe unconditionally and he is sharp as a tack' to forcing him out after finally having to come to terms with his very obvious mental decline and literally force him to drop out? They did show amazing unity, unity in the shared delusion that Joe was a viable candidate even back in 2020. You just had to listen to the stories of cornpop and his leg hairs to realise what was going on.

            Nancy Pelosi, another Dem who can't string a coherent sentence together, has admitted that Joe was forced out.

            The last few rallies by Harris have shown that she is running off a script, the SAME script, each time. She, like Nancy, can barely string a coherent sentence together when off script. She is legendary for her word salad. We all know that pretty much every interview and press conference Joe does is scripted and either the questions provided by his team or pre-screened and the answers rehearsed.

            They are now doing the same for Kamala. But then the party is fully aware that this is not a leader they are installing but a figurehead puppet.

            The reason Dems view Trump as rambling is that he isn't running from a pre-defined script. Joe, Kamala or Nancy could not survive a 2hr unscripted and live discussion.

            The beeb only managed to find 3 things to fact check in the entire discussion.

            1. Casca Silver badge

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              The reason Dems view Trump as rambling is that he isn't running from a pre-defined script.

              Yea, he cant stop lying

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                You are aware that someone saying something you disagree with or something that hurts your feelings isn't necessarily a lie?

                Now on the other hand the Dems are completely unburdened by the truth and will say anything to their brainwashed midwit supporters.

                "Trump wasn't shot! He was hit with glass from the shattered (yet completely intact and visible in all the videos) teleprompter!!1"

                1. Casca Silver badge

                  Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                  Wow, another chicken shit anon coward. How about that.

                  Just fuck off to twitter.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                    So inclusive and tolerant.

                    1. Casca Silver badge

                      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                      Ah yes, I should really care what a craven anon moron thinks... sure

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                        Well, the rest of the universe doesn't care what you think, if you actually think.

                2. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                  No, but saying something that is factually incorrect and presenting it as truth is a lie. He does this all the time and is easily proved a lie.

                  Stollen election.

                  Crime figures.

                  Inflation rate.

                  Asylums being emptied in other countries and sent to the US.

                  No crowd at the airport to greet Kamala.

                  The size of his crowds.

                  And the latest one:

                  Migrants took more than 100% of all new jobs created in the last year.

                  Just claiming that migrants took 100% of all the new jobs is patently absurd, but more than 100%?

                  There is no such thing as alternative facts.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                    An inconvenient truth is not a lie.

                    Biden has been repeatedly fact checked on his claim inflation was 9% when he came into office and yet he kept repeating it. That IS a lie. Everything they said about it being transitory, the huge spending bills not causing inflation etc. was a lie. It was Biden and Yellen touting the propagandist lies about inflation and their awful fiscal policy that allowed it to get so bad.

                    "There is no such thing as alternative facts."

                    Just listen to anything coming from the Dems. They will tell you the sky is green and grass is blue and you will happily parrot that. There are FOUR lights!

                3. John Smith 19 Gold badge
                  Happy

                  "Dems are completely unburdened by the truth "

                  Accusation is confession where the CoT is concerned isn't it Mr (or Ms) AC?

              2. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                He says the same things every time. Windmills, EVs, Hannibal Lecter, Stollen election, criminals from other countries, etc.

                He introduced a new one today though and it's a corker:

                "Virtually 100% of the net job creation in the last year had gone to migrants! In fact, I've heard it's substantially more, actually beyond that number 100%. It's a much higher number than that!"

                So more than all the new jobs created in the last year have gone to migrants?

            2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              Must be a great universe you live in! Biden won handily in 2020 despite the deficiencies, and, no matter what my personal view is, I don't see why that won't work for Harris.

              Reagan, particularly in his second term could hardly manage more than 10 minutes and then only ever with a script. And yet, for many, he was a hero. Nearly all American presidents are figureheads.

              Trump is going to have to change the record if he wants to have a chance of being elected and thus far he's not shown himself to be very adaptable. But maybe Vance will reprise some of his pre-Trump positions and we might see some policy debate.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                The 2020 statistical anomaly win.

                I'm not sure which reality you live in but in actual reality the elites who won the election for Joe boasted about it in Time magazine. The 'a well-funded cabal of powerful people' (their words) who got laws changed to favour the dems and had thousands of protesters ready to cause chaos if Trump had actually managed to win.

                https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

                If it had been discovered that the GOP had been in collusion with big tech and the mega rich to influence an election you'd be f-ing apoplectic. But cos your side won you don't care that democracy is actually dead.

                1. Charlie Clark Silver badge
                  FAIL

                  Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                  You're mistaken in thinking I have "a side". Regarding the article, I don't think it's the conspiracy you seem to do. None of the activities cited were illegal and many were attempts to curb illicit if not downright unconstitutional actions. Expectations of civil disobedience in the face of a defeat for one side or another were overblown until 6th January, which was by all standards, an insurrection and an attempt to prevent Congress from doing its constitutional duty to certify the election after all legal challenges had failed.

                  Lobbying has polluted US politics for decades and only got worse since SCOTUS removed upper limits on bribes donations.

                  But polarisation and division have been present in America since the revolution. They got worse after the Civil War and my, including Mark Twain and Ambrose Bierce, wondered whether it would be only a matter of time before America split again.

                  Democracy means learning to accept defeat.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                    The actions taken as part of a conspiracy do not need to be illegal for it to be a conspiracy. The simple fact that this was a large scale planned and organised effort really does land it in conspiracy territory. And its not a theory as it actually happened.

                    "They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it" There is no democratic process if the other side can't win. That is a dictatorship.

                    Some of the law changes they made in 2020 have been rolled back as unconstitutional. The plan that they used was to overwhelm the system and get law changes pushed through with not enough time left before election day to properly challenge them. Again this is not a theory, this is documented.

                    I think you misunderstood what the article said. The conspirators say they had thousands of people ready to protest if Trump had won. If he had won in 2020 I have no doubt that the rioting would have made Jan 6th look like a picnic. The odd thing is that there were no mass protests or riots as we saw in 2016 after the 2020 election. Just the one on Jan 6th, which the media had been talking about for ages and all the authorities had loads of time to prepare for but didn't... You'd almost think they wanted it to happen?

                    In the US you have a legal and constitutionally protected right to petition the government for redress of grievances. This is what the original Jan 6th protest was supposed to be. What we saw in 2016 and 2020 from the political left was entirely random rioting and looting targeting pretty much anyone except those in government. The few exceptions, such as when they tried to burn down Portland mayor Ted Wheeler's apartment block, tended to backfire hugely as that really pissed off the authorities. Burning shops were not much of a concern to the authorities. The oft used claim of 'this is why they have insurance'. And lets not forget that many more police and security were hurt during the attempted storming of the White House in 2020 compared to Jan 6th. You don't see them crying on TV.

                    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge
                      Facepalm

                      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                      US electoral laws are always being revised as "unconstitutional", largely because state legislators on both sides pursue agendas that they know violate the consitution or existing laws: voter id, district boundaries, etc. You can choose the ones you want to complain about, but don't ignore the other ones.

                      Contrary to what you are suggesting, the legality of a conspiracy is not the group, but the subject of discussions.

                      You are also wheeling out the counterfactual suggestion that, had Trump won in 2016, the US would have been subject to riots. Well, as can be inferred from your statement, you accept that he lost, so there is no limit to suggestions as to what would have happened. Maybe the sky would have fallen in. We will never know.

                      It doesn't matter what was "supposed" to happen on January 6th 2021, what happened was an invasion of the Capitol by a mob. Legal procedures against the elections, all state matters, had been resolved by then, therefore, all attempts to disrupt Congress' recognition of the vote were unconstitutional.

                      As for the rest, you're cherry picking and making things up. Fine, if it works in your world: please stay there.

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                        "all attempts to disrupt Congress' recognition of the vote were unconstitutional."

                        Sorry but LOL. Try the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

                        Since 2000 large numbers of Democrats have objected to the certification of any state where a republican won but they never actually follow the proper process. There were mobs invading the capitol and surrounding buildings all through Trump's first term, Kavanaugh hearings, AOC's storming of Pelosi's office, all intended to disrupt official proceedings.

                        As for the left protests if Trump had won in 2020, well we can only go by previous form.

                        5 days of protests after 2016

                        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/12/us/elections/photographs-from-anti-trump-protests.html

                        Hundreds arrested, cars and buildings torched

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/washington-faces-more-anti-trump-protests-after-day-rage-n709946.

                        In 2021 there was one big protest from the right and you all lost what was left of your minds. Personally it has been hilarious watching the blueanon go off the deep end after all the 'firey but mostly peaceful' garbage touted by the media and the dems in 2020.

                      2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

                        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

                        You are also wheeling out the counterfactual suggestion that, had Trump won in 2016, the US would have been subject to riots. Well, as can be inferred from your statement, you accept that he lost, so there is no limit to suggestions as to what would have happened. Maybe the sky would have fallen in. We will never know.

                        Um.. Trump did win in 2016, and there were riots. Remember those 'fiery. but mostly peaceful protests'?-

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church#

                        On June 1, 2020, amid the George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C., law enforcement officers used tear gas and other riot control tactics to forcefully clear peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square...

                        ...On May 29, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the White House. Shortly after 7:00 p.m., multiple protesters crossed temporary barricades near the Treasury Department, about 350 feet (110 m) from the East Wing. More than sixty Secret Service agents were injured, and eleven were transported to the hospital, as protesters threw objects at them and pulled down temporary fencing. The Secret Service placed the White House on lockdown.

                        As just one example. There were plenty more, eg the Capitol Hill insurrection in Seattle and the attempts to create a breakaway independent nation of CHAZ. Those riots may have been started by BLM, but were also hijacked by far-left rioters who wanted Trump out because he'd somehow stolen the election from Clinton.

                        It doesn't matter what was "supposed" to happen on January 6th 2021, what happened was an invasion of the Capitol by a mob. Legal procedures against the elections, all state matters, had been resolved by then, therefore, all attempts to disrupt Congress' recognition of the vote were unconstitutional.

                        A mob that mostly wandered around aimlessly. One unarmed protestor was, of course executed by a Capitol Hill police officer. Then over a thousand of those peaceful protestors were locked up and held on remand. But legal proceedings against the elections and 'all state matters' most certainly had not been resolved. For example, this strange case-

                        https://atlantaciviccircle.org/2024/02/08/judge-to-decide-voting-with-paper-ballots-in-georgia/

                        A federal trial lasting nearly three weeks in a longstanding lawsuit over the constitutionality of Georgia’s voting machines has ended with the state’s defense centered on costs and logistics, not cybersecurity – the core of the case for the plaintiffs. The trial, which was six years in the making, pits an election integrity nonprofit and a handful of Georgia voters against the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office, which oversees elections. The plaintiffs claim that the state’s computerized voting machines face an unacceptable risk of being hacked, which infringes on the constitutional rights of voters.

                        And I call that one strange because despite asking much the same questions, Fox was landed with an $800m fine. And even more strangely, from a quick search, I can't find Judge Amy Totenberg ruling. And perhaps even more strangely, there is not even a mention of this case here-

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Totenberg

                        Which is rather.. weird. And just to make things even weirder-

                        https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics/smartmatic-philippines-charges/index.html

                        Three current and former executives from Smartmatic, the voting technology company suing right-wing media outlets over their 2020 election coverage, have been charged in the US in connection with an alleged bribery scheme in the Philippines.

                        Among the Smartmatic executives facing charges is the company’s president, Roger Piñate, according to a Justice Department release.

                        And then of course there were the recent Venezualan elections, where the US claims that election was rigged and the election stolen..

            3. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

              In the latest edition of clown world we have news that Kamala Harris' best friend is going to be the debate moderator.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/11/business/media/abc-debate-dana-walden-kamala-harris.html

              Can it get any more biased? The only way the dems win is when they rig the system. And all their supporters will clap along just as they did with Biden. I was waiting for Jill to tell Joe he could have a second pudding cup after that utter 'he answered all the questions' cringe.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

      "Wouldn't that be epic if not only Biden steps down for Kamala, but Trump would do it for Elon, too?"

      Actually, I do not think Elon wants to be PotUS. That is too dangerous a job and distracts from all the other interesting things he wants to do in life. Better to put someone there to take the heat and do the work for you.

      But I was wondering. What are the chances that Trump will actually complete the full 4/8/12 years of his presidency? He is 78 now and not in the best of mental health, or health in general. An Article 25 application sometimes next year would do the trick.

      So, a vote for Trump will probably be a vote for PotUS Vance in the end. And Vance was dropped in that VP post by this pall of Elon, Peter Thiel.

      A nice remake of "The Manchurian Candidate", now running as "The Hillbilly Candidate".

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

        "not in the best of mental health"

        That didn't stop him last time.

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

          "That didn't stop him last time."

          The last time Elon was saying "take the red pill", but they backed Kanye West. WT.......

    5. lwguy

      Re: Elon wants to follow Kamala

      It's past the nomination deadline for many states for a start. Signed and sealed, he's on the ballot.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Don’t cross the dumb (streams)

    Nature abhors a vacuum

    1. Someone Else Silver badge

      Re: Don’t cross the dumb (streams)

      Actually, Nature hates it when you suck.

  15. trevorde Silver badge

    Wait! What?

    "We tested the system with eight million concurrent listeners earlier today,"

    Xitter has testers?

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Wait! What?

      It is possible that there are one or two testers left but certainly not eight million. I cannot imagine Musk having the foresight to ask for a test in advance. I can easily imagine the tantrum when Musk found out his voice was not broadcast to the entire planet. When Musk started screaming how would you have answered?

      A) It worked fine in a test this morning with 8 million users.

      B) Why haven't I been paid for the last three months?

      C) We don't actually have any test software. We just make up some random excuse when it breaks.

      D) Ask https://excuses.ai/ for an excuse for a failed X Space broadcast:

      Subject: Explanation for Failed Space Broadcast

      Dear Mr. Musk,

      I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to provide an explanation for the recent failure of our space broadcast project. Unfortunately, we encountered unforeseen technical difficulties that ultimately led to the unsuccessful broadcast.

      One of the primary reasons for the failure was a malfunction in the satellite communication system. This system is crucial for transmitting signals between the spacecraft and the broadcasting station on Earth. During the pre-launch testing phase, we noticed irregularities in the communication signals, but due to time constraints, we were unable to address the issue before the scheduled

      1. Derezed
        Coat

        Re: Wait! What?

        “When Musk started screaming how would you have answered?”

        E) a poo emoji.

    2. Howard Sway Silver badge

      Re: "earlier today"

      You don't expect to put together a serious load test and then run it on the same day of your big broadcast. More likely he ordered someone to do it and the testers did something that resembled one to keep him quiet. As proved by the fact that a million real users crashed the site. I presume there will be many more ex-X employees by lunchtime today.

      Hilariously, the episode made Musk look like a fool for the technical fuck up, then made both of them look like fools when the "interview" eventually became available.

    3. wolfetone Silver badge

      Re: Wait! What?

      "Xitter has testers?"

      Nah it's all the bots they have to make it look like the platform is growing.

    4. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Wait! What?

      "Xitter has testers?"

      Elon's 'testers' are the public, but don't tell anybody that.

  16. xyz Silver badge

    More like a DDroS attack...

    As a non-mercun, you do get the impression that the Mango Mussonlini's wig thing is coming off the rollers.

    1. MGyrFalcon
      Facepalm

      Re: More like a DDroS attack...

      Trump based DDoS, Dementia Doesn't ok Speaking.

      (yeah, the ok is a stretch)

      Icon is Trump holding his head trying to remember his name.

  17. SAdams

    Testing

    It would be interesting to know how they tested it. Was it a Loadrunner type test with injector agents at multiple locations, emulating real users with full authentication etc that tests all components, or was it some engineer who knows nothing about load testing and just wrote a script to play a live stream with concurrent sessions?

    I suspect the latter, and that there was no DOS attack at all.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Testing

      Which one would have required paying someone not demanding it up-front.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Testing

      They had to wait for the orange menace's drugs to kick in.

    3. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Testing

      "I suspect the latter, and that there was no DOS attack at all."

      Or it was one or two hijacked consumer computers in the botnet and that's all it took.

  18. Roj Blake Silver badge

    It's a Good Job

    It's a good job Musk didn't fire most of Twitter's technical people when he bought it, because if he had he'd look pretty f***ing stupid about now.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    False DDOS claim?

    Given the number of others propagated bt the Trump campaign, this is just a drop in the latrine.

  20. Roger Kynaston

    A request

    Could you revert to the admirable policy of referring to the orange thing as "A Florida businessman"? It really summed him up so well.

    1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      Re: A request

      "Florida Pensioner", please.

      1. Someone Else Silver badge

        Re: A request

        I first read that as "Florida Prisoner"...

        1. ChoHag Silver badge

          Re: A request

          Surely he is The Florida Man?

    2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: A request

      Four bankruptcies makes 'businessman' a bit of a stretch - unless that is common in Florida.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: A request

        And maybe that should just be "florid", not "Florida".

    3. Corporate Mushroom

      Re: A request

      I prefer "Tangerine Toddler", covering both his appearance and behaviour.

      As others have pointed out, while he may technically be a businessman, with so many bankruptcies under his belt he could hardly be considered a successful one. On the other hand, he is clearly a very accomplished conman.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: A request

        You're forgetting that he uses bankruptcy as a business process. I don't think Musk has quite got that sorted yet.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          Re: A request

          I don't think declaring bankruptcy would wash with his creditors who backed his Twitter bid. The Saudis have allegedly chopped people up* for less.

          *Allegedly**.

          **Ahem, ALLEGEDLY.

          1. Paul Herber Silver badge

            Re: A request

            Nothing worse than a camel owner who has the hump.

        2. John Smith 19 Gold badge
          Unhappy

          I don't think Musk has quite got that sorted yet.

          I think the word you need to describe Musk's business skillz is competent

          Not a word most would use with the FOCF. Devious, greedy, lazy, humourless, ignorant, stupid perhaps. "Competent?" Never.

    4. cmdrklarg

      Re: A request

      I like using "The Florida Orange Man" myself.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nobody's going to talk about the lisp?

    Either an audio codec problem if Xitter compressed Trump down to something its servers could handle or a Trump problem. Either way it probably should have been mentioned.

  22. dwieske

    sad to see the reg change from an indepent site to an ideological propagandasite over the last 20 years with loads of sycophants inhabiting the comment section. this site went from a bastion of independant IT news to a propagandistic rag...

    1. Roger Kynaston

      I want my £10

      You are both Elon Musk and Donald Trump and I claim my two £5!

    2. Nematode Bronze badge

      Since when has stating the bleeding obvious been ideological propaganda?

      1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        Unhappy

        Since when has stating the bleeding obvious been ideological propaganda?

        Well not obvious to those who only ever watch Fox "News" or "News" Max.

        Mind you those editors really earn their corn.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I concur & also find it sad having followed The Register from the early days (email summary).

      It used to be witty & fun for everyone.

      Now the comments are mostly rabid fun for those with a particular view.

      Perhaps it's just human nature that things eventually gravitate one way or another.

    4. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Election interference?

      sad to see the reg change from an indepent site to an ideological propagandasite over the last 20 years with loads of sycophants inhabiting the comment section.

      Quite so. In amongst the bile I'd rather hoped someone other than the article's author would have picked up on Thierry Breton's election interference and demand that two US citizens censor themselves to please the EU's Commissioner for Internal Market. Or as wiki puts it-

      The portfolio concerns the development of the 480-million-strong European single market, promoting free movement of people, goods, services and capital.

      But not the free movement of ideas, because ideas can be dangerous. His 'Directorate of Media Policy' is supposed to monitor threats to media policy, but I'm unclear what happens when those threats are coming from Giuseppe Abbamonte's boss.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Election interference?

        Shoe meet other foot

        Makes a change for the rest of us having to put up with the the “US World View”

        Equality is for other people…..

      2. Casca Silver badge

        Re: Election interference?

        You mean free movement of right wing rascist bullshit and russian lies.

        But you are so deep in that kind of excrement that you dont see it for what it is.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      El Reg didn't change that much (worse spelling, fewer puns, not as blunt), its userbase has. Formerly there'd only be discussions of the technical merits, or lack thereof, but now commentards think their opinions matter even though they don't.

  23. Nematode Bronze badge

    Dear America, take a look at yourself. Grow up.

    Yours, glad to have expatriated as a US citizen by accidental place of birth.

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Unscramble ELONMUSKDONALDTRUMP

    Best result, 12 letters: pseudorandom

  25. steviebuk Silver badge

    Elon is an arse

    Plain and simple. 99% sure there was no DDOS because, as others have said, why were other streams on Twitter working just fine.

    As always, it was great to have Trump have another car crash interview. I've been listening to "Trumped" on Radio 4, you should all take a listen and it will infurate you how much of a cunt Trump really is and how bad the police in that area were, it really did seem like they were in the pockets of Trump.

    1. DoctorPaul Bronze badge

      Re: Elon is an arse

      That's a given, the thing is, he's a STUPID arse.

      I refer you to the fake Telegraph "detention camps in the Falklands" post that he fell for hook, line and sinker. What a complete fuck-wit.

  26. Stuart Castle Silver badge

    While I don't know enough about their infrastructure to determine this conclusively, I doubt that X was DDosd. Any such ddos would have impacted more than just one stream, and so there would have been complaints..

  27. mtp
    Facepalm

    3rd term

    As Trump claims that he won the last US election he is now campaigning for his 3rd term which I belive is frowned upon by the US constitution. Just a random thought that came to mind.

    1. steviebuk Silver badge

      Re: 3rd term

      Yeah, I thought that :) but then he wants to scrap voting if he gets in. He'll surround himself with yes men and women this time. As, people that worked with him but weren't as nuts said, he was really annoyed when he got in office and realised he couldn't just do whatever he wanted. Which is why this time, he'd surround himself with yes men and women.

      He believed he was the "boss" and what he said was it, he didn't realise this isn't how it works. He wasn't interested in any of the morning briefing documents.

      This is evident if you listen to the Trumped podcast on Radio 4, when he was building the golf course in Scotland. He had to have a meeting with the council over conservation concerns. A reporter asked after "Do you know the details blah blah". He did he's ususal bullshit "I don't need to read the reports, I already know the subject really well and I know what's in them and I understood everything everyone said". Which translated to "I didn't read the reports, I don't understand any of what is in it and I don't care. Just build my shit, do as I say".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: 3rd term

        He was cavalier over the golf course but that is not the same. Do you behave the same over every issue in every situation?

        The point is the alternative running America is horrific. I don't think people realise how on the edge Western and potentially world civilisation is. The left, Dems or Labour are the real tyrants and they want to install a world wide neo-feudal society, no free speech, no freedom in general. We are in a science fiction dystopian novel. People are being played like chess pieces to achieve this. The people doing this probably believe it's for the good and their executives are narcissists climbing greasy polls.

        1. Casca Silver badge

          Re: 3rd term

          LMAO, sure buddy. Now go back to twitter.

        2. steviebuk Silver badge

          Re: 3rd term

          OK. Have you had your crazy pill today?

          Go listen to the podcast, which is clear you haven't. He was a true arse to the people living round where the golf course was being built. Sadly, he got away with it all, got his second course and fucked the dunes up. And the 500 houses and big hotel he "claimed" he was going to build, it was clear was all a lie. He just said it to get his planning permission for the golf course and the Scottish government fell for it.

          There's a film about it. Can't find the first one but the second one they've released for free.

          https://youtu.be/k9RweR9EUSg?si=3Ud2AYO-DTvugEKa

        3. John Smith 19 Gold badge
          Unhappy

          "We are in a science fiction dystopian novel. "

          The what-about-ism is strong in this one....

          To be more precise Mr (or Ms) AC you are living in this dystopian novel.

          Perhaps you could start by telling us how many jobs the FOCF created in the US during his term in office?

          You might like to consider Voltaire's line "If you can make people believe fantasies you can make them commit atrocities."

          AIUI that was a theory in Voltaire's time but the history of the 20th and 21st centuries showed he was completely correct.

    2. FrogsAndChips Silver badge

      Re: 3rd term

      He may have won the election (or so he cliams), but he was never appointed by the Electoral College and he finally vacated the White House, so there's nothing keeping him from running in this election.

      1. Casca Silver badge

        Re: 3rd term

        Sadly true

      2. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: 3rd term

        Well technically there is. He incited an insurrection and according to the consituation that means he can't run. But as we've seen, the Supreme Court is currently corrupt so he's gotten away with it as they are desperate for him to be back in.

        1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

          Re: 3rd term

          Well technically there is. He incited an insurrection and according to the consituation that means he can't run.

          November is only a few months away, so technically, the Demorats are leaving things a little late. But the Constitution says a few things, and I'm fairly certain fair trials were part of that. So despite impeachments and a load of court cases by the finest legal minds the Democrats can find, Trump hasn't been convicted of incitement or insurrection. So according to the Constitution, he can run.

          Weird how that works, huh?

          Even weirder how so many on the left seem convinced that misinformation is truth.

          1. Casca Silver badge

            Re: 3rd term

            Demorats? Did you think of that yourself?

  28. nautica Silver badge
    Happy

    One can only hope that both Musk and Trump just keep on talking.

  29. martinusher Silver badge

    DDoS attacks are just users

    Someone needs to remind Mr. Musk that there's not a whole lot of daylight between 'lots of users' and 'DDoS'. The latter is just simulating the former.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: DDoS attacks are just users

      There's a lot of debate about Musk's IT skills but he seems to have been on the software side so maybe his understanding of networks and infrastructure is slim? I have worked with developers who never give a thought beyond their coding tasks. I expect they thought the same about my coding skills!

  30. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Joke

    They obviously share a mutual passion.......

    The FOCF wants the return of the days when he had 65 million followers, not the roughly 4 million on "Truth" Social.

    He wants to return to the days as the premier s**t talking conspiracy spouting Russian sock-puppet on the internet.

    And the Musky one wants the traffic such a platform would receive as a result of such adulation.

    Obviously this can't happen till the FOCF has cashed out of TS, which might cause a bit of a glitch in the stock price.

    But as some of the people running that have real MBA's they know if he cashes out early it will go down the sh**ter at flank speed, even faster than some of his other "businesses." "Trump Vodka" comes to mind.

    Time will tell if either of their dreams come true, or if maybe the world has changed a bit perhaps?

  31. Martin-73 Silver badge

    Eyeroll

    2 right wing morons try to discuss whatever those kind of people discuss (probably poo, it's what they talk). One right wing moron's platform glitches due to utter mismanagement, blames h4xx0rZ, nobody cares

    No offence to the article writer, it's your job, but anyone who gives a toss is a nobody

    1. steviebuk Silver badge

      Re: Eyeroll

      Not giving a toss is why he got into office in the first place.

  32. Martin-73 Silver badge

    Good i got a thumb down

    1. This post has been deleted by its author

  33. Kev99 Silver badge

    "and allegedly ignores at least some financial obligations to staff." According to the labor board in New York, I don't know if you're speaking of the muskox or orange.

    1. Casca Silver badge
  34. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Your Majesty is like a stream of bat's piss

    Two pompous narcissists talking utter shite.

    Meanwhile, the genuine election campaign is being run and won elsewhere by truly smart people.

  35. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bias

    I think it's obvious what side of the political divide the author of this piece is on! Simon has followed the MSM directives to trivialise. Maybe you should be investigating what was behind the delay and if it was an attack on free speech and if so who was behind it. But you wont do that will you?

    1. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      Re: Bias

      “Attack on free speech” my sainted arse. Get over yourself. Remember rule #1: never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. So perhaps you should be investigatin' evidence of incompetence at Twittter,

    2. Casca Silver badge

      Re: Bias

      And the moronic trumpsters has arrived.

    3. steviebuk Silver badge

      Re: Bias

      As you're so technical can you explain how they targeted their DDOS just to Trumps specific interview? When they nature of a DDOS is it takes down the whole site or, if they are seperate as in streams and sites, then it would of taken down ever stream.

      The MAGA nutters are clutching at straws as they are stuck with a big orange mess.

  36. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

    There aren't enough comments on this story

    So I'll just add: Calling Twitter/X a "once-great platform" is like calling the Ford Pinto a "once-great automobile".

    1. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: There aren't enough comments on this story

      Ah, it's a sarcastic reference to Florida Man talking America down all the time, this once-great nation etc etc.

      Hence the bigly.

      C.

  37. mark l 2 Silver badge

    I mean we all know Musk was lying about the DDOS, but even his own employee confirmed its 99% chance he was lying.

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219121/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x-twitter-crashes

    Perhaps Trump should have hosted the interview on Truth social and got Musk to come over to his personal play ground. Maybe TS tech staff actually know what they are doing?

    And i love how Trump said “no choice” but to support EVs because of Mr Musk's endorsement and called the Tesla product "great" on Monday.

    So in other words hes quite willing to change his political beliefs if donors send enough money towards his campaign. So lets set up a go fund me to raise $50m for a pro immigration, pro choice group so we can bung Trump some cash and he would then be well up for letting in all the immigrants and suggesting to have them all trained up to work in abortion clinics.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You are aware that Trump is not actually anti-EV but against the mandate that all cars must be EV?

      The EVs he is against are the ones being imported from China and soon Mexico that are destroying the last tattered remains of the US auto industry. (although Stellantis are doing their level best to destroy themselves)

      If you want flipflopping try the 'we will ban fracking' flip to 'we support fracking' from the other side :)

      1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
        FAIL

        Trump is not actually anti-EV but against the mandate that all cars must be EV?

        Except that's not a mandate from the EPA, or indeed any part of the USG.

        That is yet another piece of BS from the FOCF mouth.

        Tightening emissions is something that's been going on for decades in Europe.

        Maybe the US ought to try it for a bit?

POST COMMENT House rules

Not a member of The Register? Create a new account here.

  • Enter your comment

  • Add an icon

Anonymous cowards cannot choose their icon

Other stories you might like