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The European Space Agency has begun work on a planetary defence mission that will intercept an asteroid predicted to come within 32,000km of Earth in 2029. The Rapid Apophis Mission for Space Safety (RAMSES) mission targets asteroid 99942, aka Apophis, which is about 375 meters wide – the length of 30 giant squid – and …

  1. b0llchit Silver badge
    WTF?

    Real life imitating fiction

    ..."their willingness to become more agile, streamline processes, and shorten unnecessary bureaucracy."

    Are you Sure?

    It will be more likely that we'll hear "Don't Look Up" from our politicians when Apophis IV is detected to hit.

    1. NoneSuch Silver badge

      If I may be so bold as to suggest an alternative name...

      Bold Orbital Launch & Landing Operations Kinetics System (BOLLOCKS)

  2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    So, after Apophis, a 5000 year wait for the next one

    Seems to me that, in the next five millennia, we will have colonized our solar system and we'll have been mining those asteroids for quite some time. Given that we'll likely start with the larger ones, there's a chance that that next chunk of space rock supposed to hit us will, by then, have been reduced to ores and completely processed.

    But, in case we get a bad surprise before then, it's always good to get more data on asteroids, so go RAMSES !

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So, after Apophis, a 5000 year wait for the next one

      An obvious hypothesis - as and when we do start asteroid mining for profit; enterprising individuals with engines available ON said roids are a very obvious means of carrying out sci-fi hyper-mega-blackmail on global scale.

      There's a whole expansion to the board game High Frontier dedicated to the misuse of space colonisation/exploration capability for profit through destruction.

      1. Mike 137 Silver badge

        Re: So, after Apophis, a 5000 year wait for the next one

        " enterprising individuals with engines available ON said roids"

        See the movie "Moon Zero Two" (Warner Bros. 1969) (available on the Internet Archive)

        1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          Re: So, after Apophis, a 5000 year wait for the next one

          Or "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Sorry, that's a book.

  3. sitta_europea Silver badge

    "... the ESA ... added that another rock of this size typically would not approach so closely for another 5,000 to 10,000 years."

    Yes, but they aren't the ones we have to worry about.

    The ones we have to worry about are the very much bigger ones that we haven't found yet.

    There are *relatively* few of those, but being a lot bigger they will be much harder to deflect. And any one of them, impacting anywhere on the planet, will ruin your whole millennium.

    So instead of doing something useful, Russia decides to try to steal some land from its neighbour. Like that's going to help.

    1. R Soul Silver badge

      The ones we have to worry about are the very much bigger ones that we haven't found yet.

      Nah. I saw the documentary on how Bruce Willis and his team sorted out the big asteroid last time round. They'll be able to do it again. Even if Bruce isn't fit to go into space any more. For one thing, Ben Affleck will have plenty of time on his hands for another mission now he's no longer shagging J-Lo.

  4. Bartholomew
    Coat

    units

    > 375 meters wide – the length of 30 giant squid

    I'm unhappy with this, there is not enough information about the squid used to make accurate predictions using monte carlo analysis. So I'm going to convert it to a more manageable 68 to 88 giraffes.

    Background information:

    male giraffes range from 4.8-5.5 m tall

    female giraffes range from 4.3 to 4.8 m tall

    I'm going to change "375 meters wide" to "375 meters tall", so about 68 to 88 standard giraffe units!

    The icon is me using a slide ruler.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: units

      It's metres, not meters. Fuck American spelling.

    2. MiguelC Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: units

      Use standards, man!

      It's 61.5134 Giraffes

      Better still, it is 17.06 Brontosauri

      1. Francis Boyle

        But what's its mass

        in skateboarding rhinos?

        1. Bartholomew
          Boffin

          Re: But what's its mass

          Mass: 61000000000 kilograms (assumed) according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

          so 40666666.6667 skateboarding rhinos according to https://www.theregister.com/Design/page/reg-standards-converter.html

          The real problem is that you can not calculate it's exact mass until it interacts with other objects of known mass.

        2. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

          Re: But what's its mass

          Glad you mentioned that. PTV have diverged from their standard rhinos-on-skateboards metric; that seems to be for trams only. For buses, the units are hippos on rollerskates.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: units

        African or European Brontosauri ?

      3. Bartholomew
        Meh

        Re: units

        You will not get any arguments from me on Brontosauri, 100% perfect. But I'm sorry I will need to see more information, where are you sourcing your Giraffe from ? I've checked the Metrology within the offical Weights and Measures Acts (UK) and that Giraffe might be underage.

  5. spold Silver badge

    32,000 km

    ...given the current distance that is 32,000km, +/- 32,000km.

  6. James O'Shea Silver badge

    Hmm. 32,000 km

    Hmm. Geosync orbit is... 36,000 km. (Ok, 35,800 km. Close enough for government work.) That bad boy is going to be inside Clarke Orbit radius! (Named for Arthur C. Clarke, OBE, RAF (ret), SF author, SF commentator, movie maker (2001...) and long-time resident in Ceylon/Sri Lanka. (And, for the morons who care, very well known gay guy. There may be a reason why he moved to Ceylon in 1956 and stayed.)) Inside Clarke Orbit is also known as Way Too Damn Close. Time to break out the Messiah from Deep Impact, a much better asteroid movie than Willis Swill. (Deep Impact also had Morgan Freeman as the US Pres. Can we get Mr. Freeman to run for office this year? Please?)

    Arthur Clarke is the person who first noticed that if you hang three satellites at 36,000 km altitude and 120 degrees from each other they would give 100% total coverage of the Earth's surface. Others had noticed geosync before him. Clarke was a radar and radio guy and noticed a way to make geosync useful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit

    What would be needed if someone has to do something about a big fast moving rock wouldn't be a few oil rig workers, it would be Messiah, or, better, Michael. Here's Micheal. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FiSvNberQMAwYCqwJwU3wGr0M9mPhWzgsIgMwKtYe7EE.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D67577ce564f8d5bfaab158bd2728e2ceb579998e

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    2029

    Earth is defenceless.

    Trump government has already abolished NASA and Science.

    The Supreme Court priests have determined that we will all survive with prayers and thoughts.

    Musk is safely at his base on Mars (nah, just kidding, maybe in about 5 years)

    1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

      Re: 2029

      Musk is safely at his base on Mars

      He might wish, that "safely" that is. Thanks to Mars's much thinner atmosphere, impacts have much more impact.

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