FBI gains access to Trump rally shooter's phone The FBI on Monday revealed it has gained access to a phone it says was used by Thomas Matthew Crooks – the man who shot at and wounded former US president Donald Trump on July 13 in an apparent failed assassination attempt. The bureau hasn't explained how it got into the cellphone, though it is known to have previously …
I was curious about what Trump was rambling about right when the bullets started to fly. Well, because they easily could have been “last words.”
What was it about? The interesting thing is that nobody cared about whatever he was speaking of.
I have an inkling that everybody knows it’s all phoney baloney and therefore completely immaterial to every conceivable purpose. …which explains why nobody knows what he was talking about. Nor cares.
Few people reported on the dialog of the play after Abraham Lincoln was shot. It's not what gets the headlines. We do know the final words Lincoln heard delivered by actor Harry Hawk were .....
Well, I guess I know enough to turn you inside out, old gal; you sockdologizing old man-trap!
"What was it about? The interesting thing is that nobody cared about whatever he was speaking of.
I have an inkling that everybody knows it’s all phoney baloney and therefore completely immaterial to every conceivable purpose. …which explains why nobody knows what he was talking about. Nor cares."
You do realise that around 50% of the American voting population actually do care.. Do you really think that 60 Million, I don't know the exact figures, people's opinions don't matter ? If you don't care about those people having their own opinion then maybe, just maybe, you need to rethink your owns ideologies. They are after all your fellow countrymen.
If you don't care about those people having their own opinion then maybe, just maybe, you need to rethink your owns ideologies. They are after all your fellow countrymen.
Most TDS sufferers aren't at all interested in democracy, hence the previous comments. Trump had been leading in the polls prior to the assassination attempt, after, some polls showed close to 70% and the majority of US states turning red. This may be a temporary blip following the events, but it gives the Democrats more problems. They instituted a temporary hold on their normal attack ads, but those will probably resume because the Dems don't seem to have a clue how to beat Trump at the 'battle box'.
(Also interesting the way Crooks is referred to as a 'registered Republican' and not Democrat donor. The father was a Libertarian, mother a Democrat and PA encouraged people to register Republican so they could try and vote Trump off the primaries. Motives are of course unknown, but allegedly Crooks had been shouting "I am not a crook!" prior to being shuffled off this mortal coil with extreme prejudice. Trump, of course, regularly referred to Democrats as crooks.. )
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MAGA (Morons and Gullible A-holes) The type that think a "patriot" is the yokel that flies flags from the bed of his (or her) pickup. You know the type...
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. ... Power is intoxicating; and Men legally vested with it, too often discover a Disposition to make an ill Use of it & an Unwillingness to part with it. ... " (Samuel Adams letter to James Warren - October 24, 1780 [original spelling])
There is a wealth of additional wisdom and history in that one letter and requires reading multiple times to distill the deep message being conveyed. Well worth a lookup and read.
MAGA (Morons and Gullible A-holes) The type that think a "patriot" is the yokel that flies flags from the bed of his (or her) pickup. You know the type...
Yup. TDS sufferers who seem to think that Make America Good Again is a terrible idea that absolutely must be stopped! By violence, if necessary. You could see the type during those 'fiery, but mostly peaceful protests'. Or on rooftops.
There is a wealth of additional wisdom and history in that one letter and requires reading multiple times to distill the deep message being conveyed.
Paul Valéry gave a more concise version- "Power without abuse loses its charm". Then so did Lord Acton with- "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". Then as for an unwillingness to part with power, didn't Biden say something along the lines that only God could stop him from running again? Four more years! Pause!
If you are so keen to give (made up) mental health diagnoses over a comments forum, perhaps you yourself should consider getting some professional mental health advice?
Both the nutjob's parents were apparently licensed professional counsellors, so.. professional advice doesn't always seem to work.
It would appear that you may be suffering from one of any number of documented syndromes.
Oh, the irony, it burns. Are you qualified to make that diagnosis? No? Or could this be another symptom of TDS?
Meanwhile, in other news. Biden demonstrates he's never one to not exploit a crisis. He's calling (again) to ban 'assault weapons'. This is after telling people that a 9mm can blow the lungs clean out of the body. Or that attaching a pistol to a brace turns it into a gun. Perhaps he should start with.. something smaller, like banning Colt Pythons to stop criminals dumping those in bins near schools?
It is said that Trump is only alive because he turned to point to a billboard pointing out that illegal immigration is really quite high in America, so that he was talking about that would be a fair guess.
He probably didn't mention that he'd instructed his political party to block any bill aiming to resolve the problem to make it as bad as possible to improve his election chances.
You are fake news.
The bill was primarily for billions of dollars to far off countries and a very piss poor half-arsed attempt to make it look like the dems were securing the border.
And then 'Biden' actually does something on his own as his team realises just how bad it looks for him doing nothing.
But this is a typical Dem tactic. Undo all of Trump's work then blame the other side.
Fraid not. Originally the Republicans refused to hand end of life cold war era US weapons to Ukraine to let them fight off an attempt to force them into a new USSR which wanted to then go for NATO after their victory in Ukraine on the pretext that this should be linked to border control measures.
Then when submitted with the border control measures the Republicans said that it should be separate. When submitted separately they blocked both because they should be connected. Then when connected they blocked it. Then when submitted as 4 separate bills after 6 months worth of stalling a bunch of republicans agreed to pass everything but the border bill, which was blocked by the republicans.
You couldn't actually make it up.
Then when submitted as 4 separate bills after 6 months worth of stalling a bunch of republicans agreed to pass everything but the border bill, which was blocked by the republicans
As usual, the devil's in the details. Like what exactly was contained in those bills. But that's often a problem with bills in the US. Often they're thousands of pages and for those bills, dumped out the day before the vote was supposed to take place. So no chance for legislators (or more correctly, their staff) to read and understand what exactly they're voting for, and what carve-outs have been snuck in. It strikes me that there really should be a minimum time window between bills being presented, and votes to allow for actually reading them.
A few years ago, my brother woke up to find his then 8 year-old son had come into the bedroom and was trying to manoeuvre his phone and thumb into the right position to unlock it. In this case it was because he had a family iTunes account and his son wanted to download an app.
I'm guessing with face unlock it's even easier - he could have just pointed the phone, and got away with it. Don't know if face unlock works to authorise the app store in the way you can set thumbprint to.
In this case though, your face looks different when you're dead. Because all the muscles relax. Plus the brief period of rigor mortis - but I've only ever seen bodies before/after that stage. They don't look the same as when they're asleep - but don't know if that's in a way that computer face recognition would notice?
Some biometrics require you to be alive. They use the infrared pattern of your face, thumb, or hand.
That said, the last time I was at Walt Disney they required your thumb print to enter the park. Massive data value there. I wonder what they did with my kids print info?
Some states it is required for driver licenses, passports, gun permits etc.
There was a movie called 2000 mules awhile back. In it they used data from marketing firms to track cell phones. How about a go fund me to buy the data for his phone. I would love to see the location data where he was before the shooting.
> I wonder what they did with my kids print info?
Absolutely anything that they want to do, with absolutely anything that they want.
Ever since the Walt Disney Company began work on the Magic Kingdom near Orlando in the late 1960s, the Mouse, as locals call it, has wielded considerable political power in the state. A law enacted in 1967 makes it totally legal for the company to build and operate a nuclear reactor on its property south of Orlando proper. Disney World its own tightly controlled governmental entity with its own laws. Disney has the power, to create its own police force, it has not so far. Florida as a state at that time was not used to dealing with so many powerful attorneys, so basically they granted them everything that they asked for to sell that cheap swampland.
"Some biometrics require you to be alive. "
Yes, but. For a middle of the road consumer mobe that isn't constructed to be "high-security"?
There's no way I'd let Disney scan my fingerprints. There's no valid reason for them to have them, nor facial ID although I can see that as something they'd want to use to exclude people that have been asked to leave at a prior time or are on a shared list as trouble makers.
A local adult beverage store wanted to scan my license to buy a few bottles, not just check the information which, in my case, would only be a formality. I left the things at the checkout and have never been back. My local corner shop doesn't have the same selection, but if I was really boggin' for something, the owner would get it for me. They don't bother with ID for old farts like me.
So I doubt there is going to be any way to use his own face for Face ID. That's unlikely to work with a corpse anyway unless it is fairly fresh, since the skin shrinks and that's probably enough to throw off the match.
One would think the FBI has the technology to 3D print his face from a few photos and have someone "wear" that mask with holes for the eyes for iPhone's gaze detection.
Dunno if any reports have indicated whether it is iPhone or Android, but either way companies like NSO Group can probably have a way in if they're paid enough. Modern smartphones are too complex to ever be made completely secure no matter how much was spent in trying to do so.
In this case though, your face looks different when you're dead. Because all the muscles relax.
In this case, facial recognition may have been complicated by hydrostatic shock from a passing .308 There were some images of the body including head shots of the head shot which showed it had been remodelled somewhat. Sofware may have been able to correct for that, or maybe the driving licence photo was used instead.
So, it's the FBI investigating this when they are possibly one of the prime suspects considering past assassination attempts. Or was that one of the other three letter organizations? CIA?
Too many things don't add up here, but I guess we'll be speculating about who was actually behind this for just as long as we have about JFK?
Or it *could* just have been a lone gunman, but given the past history of getting up to lots of bad stuff many are going to question that.
That's the problem, isn't it? You do nasty experiments like MK Ultra, and when it gets out there people don't trust the authorities any more.
(now, where's my tinfoil hat?)
It's either a) Some kind of inside job, and the motive is pretty obvious* or b) The Secret Service are deeply incompetent, being run by someone from Pepsi with no military experience and focused on DEI, and getting 30% women into the service by 2030, instead of focused on their core mission.
* Military/Industrial Complex stand to lose $$Billions under Trump.
a - seems like a bit of a strech. Someone would know, and will eventually talk.
Gonna need a source on that first claim, sounds like sour grapes about how many of his own party voted against him in the primaries.
The donation was a completely different person in another city who happened to have the same name, not many 17 year olds are donating to political causes.
"Gonna need a source on that first claim, sounds like sour grapes about how many of his own party voted against him in the primaries."
Reuters seem to think it was true.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/after-attempt-his-life-trump-sees-moment-unity-2024-07-15/
His Family were also democrats if that is anything to go by..
It's since been proved the donation was from a guy of the same name, but was actually in his 50s or 60s (I forget the actual age - 59 or 69 I think).
Given that I share my name with an embarrassingly large number of people, some of whom are well known in certain circles, I can easily see how these mix ups happen.
It's since been proved the donation was from a guy of the same name, but was actually in his 50s or 60s (I forget the actual age - 59 or 69 I think).
Citation needed. No, wait-
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/728/202102049425215728/202102049425215728_189746.pdf
Copy of the donation from the US Federal Election Commission showing same name, address for the nutjob..
It can't have been him because if he made a political donation at that age he would have been breaking the law.
I think his actions showed he wasn't too bothered about breaking the law. But I guess it's just one of those things. The Federal Election Commission showed the donation, and maybe showed some process deficiencies, ie ActBlue and/or the FEC not cross-checking with DoB. It's much the same with other parts of the election process, ie last election a few dead people managed to vote. So how systems and processes can be improved to prevent that.
That seems to be a data hygiene challenge, ie correlating birth/deaths before issuing absentee ballot papers, or how to check in-person voting when there's no requirement for ID. Last election had more challenges maintaining accurate electoral rolls with people moving around more due to Covid, and either not updating registrations, or the data being slow to catch up. AFAIK one of the main sources for ID in the US are driving licences, and it is a legal requirement to keep registration information up to date. But there is a grace period for that, and people may not bother, or forget.
ps.. Just looked at the FEC form again, and it doesn't show DoB. No idea if that's a hidden field, or it's something ActBlue would have been responsible to check/verify.
> "...if he made a political donation at that age he would have been breaking the law."
Completely false. Fact checking is not hard (at least in this case).
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/who-can-and-cant-contribute/
Downvotes for re-posting relevant reportage? Really? Or is it just a thing the media outlets you access are failing to attend to?
The thread up to this point has been a discussion of the political affiliation of the deceased. No judgement in the word conservative per se.
Wanting Mango Largo off the scene doesn't automatically make you a woke liberal left-wing mainstream media LGBTIQ+ Democrat, and vice versa.
Doesn't count. Show us a significant number of officials speaking officially on behalf of the DNC, in public, to trustworthy journalists. The comments must be clear, direct and unambiguous. Everything else is just individual commentary, implied ideas or jokes, which they have a right to but which do not implicate the DNC.
The problem is that you absolutely won't find this because we don't do violent, alarmist rhetoric. We take actual responsibility for our speech.
You really like to move the goalposts don't you :)
Some rando Trump supporter says something on twitter and you're crying about 'muh democracy!!!!1' yet someone gets invited on TV news and says 'someone needs to put a bullet in Trump' and you brush it under the carpet.
At least you admit that Jen Psaki is not a trustworthy journo. She certainly was pretty awful as press sec.
Biden has been bleating on about this existential threat to 'our democracy' for MONTHS.
Rick Wilson is a long time republican - he worked for John McCain's campaign! He left the party when Trump was elected because he was horrified at the turn it made, but that doesn't make him a "democrat".
But yeah what he said he wrong. But where was your outage when Paul Pelosi was attacked and republicans were cheering it on and making up crazy conspiracy theories about the attacker being his gay lover? There has been universal condemnation of the assassination attempt on the left, but if it was Biden was grazed by a bullet you would see conspiracy theories about how it was arranged to help Biden get sympathy points in the polls and probably nutjobs like MTG would be posting on Twitter wishing the guy was a better shot.
"There has been universal condemnation of the assassination attempt on the left"
Are you high? Lots of social media posts claiming it was staged or wishing the shooter had been more accurate.
People are already getting fired for their posts.
The guy who attacked Paul Pelosi was a drug addled nutjob. I didn't see people wishing that he'd finished the job. People were asking why the two men were there in their undies.
Rick Wilson is a total grifter. He knows he can get his face on TV by being anti-Trump and make money. I've not seen anyone with such a reach say that someone needs to put a bullet in Biden. The violent rhetoric towards Trump started pretty much when he won the nomination in 2016. High level dems calling for direct action against him and his cabinet. Celebs calling for his death. Pantifa rioting and smashing/burning. A guillotine with a Trump effigy brought to the white house while people try and climb the fence.
Most of what comes from the right is memes and taunting.
From the left we have gems like this:
https://www.wweek.com/resizer/t8HXNRZcV54-78ZZCWJKNzgBbms=/600x0/filters:quality(100)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/08144800/Compton-Creep.jpeg
https://www.wweek.com/arts/visual-arts/2018/08/08/we-talked-to-the-portland-artist-whose-graphic-illustration-of-trump-stirred-national-controversy/
https://archive.ph/DxxZJ
"we don't want Biden, we want revenge" That is the far left making threats against Biden. Over here on the good side we just chant 'lets go Brandon!'.
"Why is the assassin called a nut job for having and using a gun ?"
Around 1/3 of Americans admit to owning a gun, so that equates to around 100 million people. Most of whom will never even fire there gun outside of a gun range. This demographic are what are called normal, stable people. Their only interest is in saving their family's or their own life's in a bad or SHTF situation. This in my opinion is the 999 999 000 or so that are not nut jobs.
Whereas this guy decided to go the the far end of extreme for whatever reason. Was he a nut job ?, most definitely.
"I am already seeing doubts by default from the FBI investigating after they have been shown corrupt and partisan"
Agreed this has become a very "delicate" state of affairs. One has to ask, who is the truly pulling the strings behind all these organisations ( regardless of the political party which is probably irrelevant).
NOR is anyone talking about Project 2025.... That manifesto and all it stands for is a clear and present danger to the world.
Well, you and other TDS sufferers are. Using language like 'Clear and present danger' may also be causing their heads to literally explode. So much for cooling down the political rhetoric. But 'Project 25' is America's version of 'Project Fear' from the UK. Lots of doom & gloom whipping up hysteria about things that may never happen. It's a proposal for reshaping the US from the Heritage Foundation and isn't Trump's manifesto. So the Democrat hystericals whip up the masses claiming all proposals contained in the 'manifesto' will come to pass. Or as Wiki puts it-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
On July 5, 2024, Trump publicly distanced himself from Project 2025, saying he "knew nothing about it" and that some of its ideas were "ridiculous and abysmal".
Not to mention some of the proposals being probably unconstitutional, and thus illegal. Then again, thanks to the terminal TDS of one nutjob, Republicans may get more power. Oops.
TDS supporters are unable to contend with verifiable facts. You just need to look at the conspiracy theories going around about the Trump shooting..
"It was a fragment of glass from the teleprompter that hit him." Except that you can clearly see in the videos, even the video posted on a news site claiming it was glass that hit him, that both teleprompters are still there and 100% intact.
"It was staged, Trump cut his ear like in WWE." Better tell that to the family of the dead and injured.
In one wide angle shot you can clearly see off to the right (stage left) there is a telehandler and it suddenly erupts hydraulic fluid sideways and the top section of the boom telescopes in as the hose is ruptured by one of the bullets.
Ask yourself, who has the most to gain by this event? The documents case has just been tossed and the Dems and TDSers knew it was shaky to begin with, Trump SHOULD have been sentenced for the fake fraud trial on the 11th so should be in or going to gaol, Biden is tanking due to his brain turning to mush...
after they have been shown corrupt and partisan
Only in your fantasy world right wing media bubble. Amazing how you orange mobster cultists claim to "back the blue", unless it is the FBI, capitol police, DC police, NYPD, Georgia state police, Arizona state police, or anyone else involved in any way in investigations or prosecutions against your orange mobster (or standing in his way when he tries a coup)
@DS999
"Only in your fantasy world right wing media bubble."
I am willing to believe you are not a troll but a serious believer of the nonsense, but I am stumped as to how? How is it in a 'right wing bubble' to be aware that the FBI were publicly shown to be corrupt and partisan? This isnt a secret, they were shamed for their involvement in the Steele dossier, that is publicly exposed. The FBI hiding Hunters laptop is also exposed and public.
When the FBI raided Trumps property it is publicly known they insisted the cameras were turned off (thankfully they wernt) and the FBI searched outside the warrant. Photographic evidence (the famous picture of classified files spread on the floor) was evidence of an active investigation and leaked to the media!!
You seem to be in a bubble if you somehow missed the public revelations. And this isnt all.
As I said I hope they can redeem themselves
Must be so exhausting being an ardent MAGApologist. Whatever will they write, for their daily dose of drivelling diatribe, when Il Douchie gets back in to power and finishes exterminating everyone who has criticised him? Hmmm?
Not at all. I don't find thinking very exhausting. You should try it sometime! But nice of you to throw in a blend of fascism and Hitler memes.
But it's also entertaining. Today's fun was Kimberly A. Cheatle womansplaining that her agents had to be inside the building the nutjob fired from because it would have been too dangerous for them to be on a sloped roof. Kinda missed that the counter-snipers were... erm.. on a sloped roof. But perhaps this is one of those diversity hire problems and high heels being hazardous on that type of terrain. Also a general Biden problem. In some more other news, apparently Trump's security detail had been increased following reports of assassination plots from Iran. So that was the best they could do in an elevated threat posture?
Biden really needs to ask her to resign, and if she refuses, just fire her. But that's the problem with his type of politics. No matter how monumental the fsck up, nobody is held accountable.
Might also have to simulate blood flow and body temperature, too.
Uncle Slacky,
Are there any mobile phones that even care? I don't think most do. There was a guy a few years ago who was using gummy bears and lifting then imprinting people's fingerprints onto the surface to fool the sensor.
Nobody will implement this in future either. As is proved in the documentary Demolition Man - where the prison warden's eye on the end of a pen opens all the doors.
I guess even if the gunman didn't think he would be killed, he must have known he was never going to get away from the scene without getting caught? So the only reason i can think of why he hadn't thrown all of this electronic devices into a river before heading off on his one way journey, was that since he was only 20, like a lot of people his age, he couldn't bare not be checking his phone every 5 minutes?
.. he couldn't bare not be checking his phone every 5 minutes?
Or he was communicating with someone. Some of the media's been saying this was a lone nutjob, but until the investigation's concluded, nobody really knows. It does seem like he didn't have much of a social media presence though, which means that in at least one aspect of his life, he may have been smart. In some ways it's a shame this kind of nutjob deletes themselves because then the FBI and Secret Service's psychologists can't interview them, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to build up a good profile from interviewing family, friends, cow-orkers etc.
The shooter, the shooter's phone, and the shooter's politics are a red herring to distract from the real story.
This was an obvious failure of the Secret Service. How did the shooter get in position in the first place? How did a 20yo know about the open rooftop vulnerability? Or did the shooter just get lucky with his approach?
Which leads to the bigger questions... Is this the Standard Operating Procedure for Secret Service protection? Are the protectees always this poorly protected? And now that the entire world knows that.....Who will be next?
Or do we install the Tinfoil hat and pursue this as a intentional deep state attack, keeping in mind the candidate's intention to take on the Washington establishment? Much like true story of JFK's assassination, the answer to that question will never be known in any of our lifetimes.
Chuck Schumer says the intelligence community has ways 'to get you back'.
Yep. There was an assassination attempt against Schumer on Fathers Day where the intelligence community attempted to poison him with raw beefburgers. Or perhaps that image just demonstrated Schumer's lack of intelligence..
There were 100s or 1000s of Republicans which means they love guns, so why did every single one of them fail to step in ?
Well, wiki may have some answers-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump
Multiple local law enforcement officers identified Crooks and believed that he might have been acting suspiciously near the event's magnetometers; they expressed their suspicions over the radio, and their radio communications were available to the Secret Service.
So metal detectors screening the event and people attending not supposed to be carrying firearms. Which is one of those sensible precautions that may violate rights to open or conceal carry firearms. But rather practical. Shots fired, people yell 'Gun!', crowd starts drawing their weapons and unloads on the first person they see with a weapon. LEOs look on and wonder. Much easier if the only person with a gun are LEOs, or the nutjob. I've never been a fan of some pro-2A folks who think it's a good idea to open carry rifles in public just because they're exercising their right to do so. In the UK, that would just make them an obvious target.
But wiki also raises some questions-
He then bought 50 rounds of ammunition from a gun store and purchased a five-foot (1.5-meter) ladder before driving to the site of the rally with an explosive device in the trunk of his car.
As you do. A cooler of beer and some snacks is soo boring. But one of the oddities. Pictures showed the nutjob wearing shorts and a t-shirt. Someone dressed like that and carrying a ladder & a rifle should have raised eyebrows. But that's part of the security failures. Also odd that he had explosives in the car. Was that intended to be used as a distraction? The nutjob was apparently reasonably well educated, yet chose a firing position that was pretty much guaranteed to be a one-way trip, so why the explosives?
its clear to me, the car was to explode if he couldn't get to the roof, so to distract people, or to use as a distraction to escape, which is less likely.
Buying the ladder - really tips it that there was a plan, and I doubt it was his. But everyone is crazy, just some are more stupid than the rest.
Brings up more q... why are there metal detectors at the rally in the first place and why does the audience silently fail to protest at this unamerican limit on their rights ?
If the audience had guns they would have shot the gunman before he even had a chance.. How come none of them is saying if they had their guns the gunman would never have had a chance too shoot the returning jesus ?
Sadly the events of that day have shown just how utterly ineffective the police and security services are. If a member of the public had decided to take their own action and at least confront/detain the shooter or actually shoot him then the outcome would have been very different.
But what we are fed from the anti-gun side is that the police et al are there to protect us and we should delegate to them the job of keeping the world safe. This is why the courts have given police and other govt people qualified immunity. You're all butthurt that Trump gets some presidential immunity but the police can effectively steal and murder and get off completely free.
Now if a gun carrying member of the public had eliminated the threat they would probably be sitting in the county gaol awaiting murder charges.
Its even funner when the gun control zealots are also the ones chanting ACAB.
@Marty McFly
"Or do we install the Tinfoil hat"
It seems the building the shooter used housed protective detail snipers who saw him check out the building, return and use a range finder pointed at the stage and then come back with a backpack. This is known because they reported the suspicious guy and his activities along with taking pictures of him out front of the building. Tin foil sales might be about to increase.
...I'd hate to see what it was like before
Trump security boosted weeks ago over Iran plot to kill him
Protection for Donald Trump was boosted several weeks ago after US authorities learned of an Iranian plot to kill him, according to national security officials.
Officials say there is no known connection between the alleged Iranian plot and the assassination attempt on the former president on Saturday in Pennsylvania.
However, the disclosure that security had been tightened raises further questions over how Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was able to climb a building and get close enough to fire at Trump.
I never thought I'd agree with the Iranian government, but here we are:
The Iranian mission at the United Nations called the report "unsubstantiated and malicious", adding that Trump was "a criminal who must be prosecuted and punished in a court of law".
As we all know, Trump is petulant, childish, vindictive and has a narcissist's sense of self-preservation.
What are the odds that, if re-elected, he (with the help of the contemptuous current supreme court) bans all guns from the population, so a deranged white republican boy can't take a pot-shot at him ever again?
I'd say those odds are pretty good, because once elected he'll never need the pro-gun vote again.
Conversely, the current contemptuous supreme court will never allow the banning of firearms as long as the democrats are in power.
So remember this at the polls, gun owners: With Trump you may very well lose your right to own guns; With the Blue side, you'll be able to keep them indefinitely.
Conversely, the current contemptuous supreme court will never allow the banning of firearms as long as the democrats are in power.
See, this is where TDS causes a strange inversion of reality. Bidens ATF tried to ban bump stocks and pistol braces. The Supreme Court said ATF didn't have the authority to do this..
With the Blue side, you'll be able to keep them indefinitely.
Again with the inverted reality-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1x4xjvrgdo
“An AR-15 was used in the shooting of Donald Trump. This was the assault weapon that killed so many others, including children. It’s time to outlaw them,” Mr Biden told the audience at a convention in Las Vegas.
Are you.. errm.. red/blue color blind? I know Biden thought Trump was his VP, but..
“Just because our politics are very divided doesn’t mean we should stop telling the truth. Who you are, what you’ve done, what you will do - that’s fair game,” he said.
Actually, the last part is fortune telling, so more of a fairground game. And Biden's always been a stranger to the truth. He frequently repeats old annectdotes, like how his uncle was eaten by cannibals, which have long been debunked.
"Bidens ATF tried to ban bump stocks and pistol braces."
The Trump administration DID ban bumpstocks in 2018, following the Los Vegas shooting. He has a history.
"The Supreme Court said ATF didn't have the authority to do this.. "
Under the Biden administration, this year. The contemptuous supreme court will always rule thusly under the democrats.
The rest of yours is meaningless twaddle, as always.
One for the TDS sufferers, not you JE.
So what makes an 'assault weapon' so deadly? If you go by the definition in the assault weapons ban:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and has two or more of the following:
* Folding or telescoping stock
* Pistol grip
* Bayonet mount
* Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
* Grenade launcher
Apart from the grenade launcher, which is just silly, how do any of those features make the 'assault weapon' more lethal than a rifle without those features?
There is nothing in that list that makes the rifle more accurate, fire further, fire the bullet with more power than any other rifle of the same calibre. Even the 2022 proposed 'ban' didn't bother to expand on this list.
All this talk of 'assault weapons' is just political theatre. Nothing more.
The kid could have been up there with a .308 hunting rifle and likely would have been more accurate.
Strangely enough, except for the quite tedious "TDS sufferers"[0] bit, I agree with you.
See this post: https://forums.theregister.com/forum/containing/4485110
[0] Do all y'all (both sides) not realize that using that term marks you as a loon in the eyes of the educated?
Aren't assault rifles a misnomer stemming from the misunderstanding/translation of Sturmgewehr?
Anyhoo that list of "features" is just to get all the ammosexuals hot under the collar, no?
In reality it's like UK "dangerous" dog laws. They're all dangerous in the wrong hands/situation.
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