back to article PowerToys bring fun tweaks to Windows 10 and 11

Microsoft's collection of Power Toys for the current versions of Windows has some nifty little helpers, and Power Run may be comfortingly familiar if you're more used to macOS. Far back in the lost aeons of the very late 20th century, Microsoft started offering a handy little set of tools for Windows 95 called the PowerToys – …

  1. PRR Silver badge

    > Alt+space ..... From Windows 2 onwards, the leftmost button on every Windows title bar even looked like a space bar

    Ah. Not an underbar. I used to use Alt-Space all the time but never got that.

    1. graeme leggett Silver badge

      Well you learn something belatedly every day....

  2. Lennart Sorensen

    alt+space is way too useful. No one gets to replace that no matter how good the tool might be.

    1. My other car WAS an IAV Stryker

      I still use Alt+space, c to Close a window. Barely have to move a finger (from Alt to C). Faster than Alt+F4 or Ctrl+W (Mac's Cmd+W is better than Ctrl+W due to the key positions).

  3. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    "But deep inside Microsoft, it looks like this knowledge is forgotten:"

    Remember when mags like Windows User would have keyboard shortcut cheat sheets on the cover? Or handy little strips you could put along the top of your keyboard, along with the ones for WordPerfect etc? Keyboards needed to be a lot bigger in those days :)

    I suppose this is related to the removal of underlines indicating the appropriate keyboard shortcut on menus, buttons etc. No doubt done for the look of the thing, but personally I see no reason to remove a handy feature for the sake of appearances. Guess I'm just getting old.

    1. Baird34

      "I suppose this is related to the removal of underlines indicating the appropriate keyboard shortcut on menus, buttons etc."

      You've brought up an old wound, I had forgotten about these being removed. Now I'm annoyed again! :|

    2. ecofeco Silver badge

      I also remember when F-keys were legible and not primary commands for hardware functions with ambiguous icons.

      1. Alumoi Silver badge
        Joke

        Fine keys? Funny keys? Freaking keys?

        1. MatthewSt Silver badge
          Facepalm

          F because you hit F11 to go full screen and your laptop responds by going in to flight mode...

          1. Mike007 Silver badge

            F because on a modern laptop you say that word every time you want to refresh a web page and forget to hold down the Fn key at the same time...

            1. Julian Poyntz

              Put the fn into lock mode

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                And move back the Fn key to its proper location to the /right/ of the Ctrl key, yes Lenovo, looking at you.

  4. Bendacious Silver badge

    TweakUI

    Thanks for the wave of nostalgia I got hearing the name TweakUI. Often the first app installed on a fresh Windows machine. It did get less useful over the years, as M$ bundled the best tools into Windows. I remember the main use towards the end was that Windows had a habit of losing all of the icons for app shortcuts and file associations and the best way to get them back was with a TweakUI refresh. I remember XP SP3 as being nice and stable but forgot that you’d need an app for things like that.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    yeah, and ... ?

    Thats great and everything and PowerToys has always been a cool name, but is it any good at a 35-yard pass down field? That is what we want to know.

    All I want to know is why there are no footie pieces?

    I case you didnt know, Football's coming home again.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: yeah, and ... ?

      How did that work out for you?

  6. man_iii

    PowerToys and Sysinternals

    I need not say more.

  7. Rich 2 Silver badge

    I’ve always thought of PowerToys as absolutely essential for windows. It makes it half usable. Still shite but half usable.

    And interesting you should mention the windows search function. How exactly do you make a search function THAT slow. Same goes for file copying (“preparing to copy” - WTF is there to prepare? JFDI!!!) Seriously - if anyone knows, I would love to hear it. On the same subject, does windows search still fail to find stuff that’s blindingly findable? That was always a major annoyance

    1. Mark Allen

      > (“preparing to copy” - WTF is there to prepare? JFDI!!!) Seriously - if anyone knows, I would love to hear it.

      The excuse I heard for that delay is it is attempting to estimate how long the copy will take so you can get a highly accurate progress bar on screen...

      And don't forget that hang at the end of a mass delete of your TEMP folder contents where it hits 99% and then just stops and thinks about the meaning of life...

      1. Rich 2 Silver badge
        Joke

        “… so you can get a highly accurate progress bar on screen...”

        Oh you cracked me up with that one. I’ve got to hand it to you - Brilliant!!!

    2. jospanner Bronze badge

      Windows search is still utterly useless and I can’t help but wonder why they haven’t learned from Everything, which is a necessary install at this point.

    3. doublelayer Silver badge

      I think the "preparing" message comes when the process is still recursively listing all the files. It should and probably does copy the first few while searching, but it doesn't even know how many files there are yet. Since the next version will count the number and size of files remaining to copy since the time estimate is so frequently wrong, it would be annoying if the files left box kept going up.

      1. Richard 12 Silver badge

        Thing is...

        It wouldn't.

        People are actually used to the idea of not knowing how big a task is until it's mostly done.

        I've made many progress indicators that tick up both the "done" and "to do" for the first part of a task, and nobody has ever complained.

        Probably they never noticed at all, but that works too.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Fun tweaks and Windows :o

    After the latest forced update, my Windows PC keeps churning the disk and if I try and reboot posts: “Preparing to configure Windows. Do not turn off your computer”. Any solutions would be appreciated. Restoring and selecting "keep my files" of course doesn't keep any third party software. Summing up the time wasted in fixing former and current problems and at my former hourly rate, “billg” now owes me $1,000.00.

    1. Grunchy Silver badge

      Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

      “Preparing to configure Windows. Do not turn off your computer”. Any solutions would be appreciated.

      Sure, I have a solution! Reconfigure your PC as a Linux appliance and load in the virt-manager. Set up a new “Windows” VM but make sure to install “Ghost Spectre” instead. Turn off all updates, and also kill the network connection. Take a snapshot just in case you ever do get infected.

      It’s lovely. Microsoft is banished from meddling with the system and you are free to run whatever legacy software that doesn’t have a Linux version. I’d banished the scourge of Microsoft updates for many years already, it’s great.

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        1. Bendacious Silver badge

          Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

          I'd be tempted to point at a dodgy memory stick but you said it happened after an update. If it's not hardware then I'd take a look at drivers - any exclamation marks in Device Manager? I'm not a fan of BIOS updates but I don't think it could hurt you at this point. I'd see if your motherboard manufacturer is offering anything newer than you have right now. There is ram testing software out there, just to definitely exclude your RAM chips but that seems unlikely. If it's not drivers then you can do a "repair upgrade", which will install Windows over Windows and keep your apps and files.

          https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-perform-repair-upgrade-in-windows-11/8099a5ae-8afc-406f-864d-8d13c3742d8d

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            1. Alumoi Silver badge
              Joke

              Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

              You DON'T need any third party apps. Trust us.

              Microsoft.

            2. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

              Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

              > I hesitate to mess with ... BIOS updates

              Updating your firmware is routine maintenance and you should do it as regularly as changing the oil in an ICE vehicle.

    2. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

      You don’t say how long your PC has been churning,..

      From experience with Win7 and more recently with 10, let it run for 48 hours and then do a power off…

      I’ve had (Windows 10) systems which have taken forever to sort out an update, but left to churn finally got there or reverted back to the former state having failed to complete the update. I’ e also had other occasions where the update was waiting for a reboot to complete, but the updater didn’t update the on-screen status…

      1. Roland6 Silver badge

        Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

        Add.

        In both cases, once successfully restored a windows login, run disk cleanup and clean up system files etc.

        It is also worth using tools like CCleanup to clean chrome and other caches. Then reboot.

        When I’ve done this it’s freed up nearly 20GB of temp files.

        1. Ulkozikir

          Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

          These things should only be used by those who understand what they're doing. I had to fix someone's system countless times after they used a similar program. They just click mindlessly everywhere

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

            I have a cousin who used such a cleaner program (back in WinXP times): It was so thorough it left him with a completely empty disk... All gone, programs, data, Windows, all!...

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        1. Bendacious Silver badge

          Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

          Regarding a repair upgrade, it won't touch your apps, regardless of whether they are M$ apps or 3rd party. You will lose some Windows settings tough.

          Have you looked at "System Restore" (part of Windows) to see if a restore point was created before the last update? You might be able to roll back your PC to a point in time before that update. That won't affect any apps or data as it's unlikely you have created any data since this started happening.

        2. Roland6 Silver badge

          Re: Fun tweaks and Windows :o

          Sounds like you’ve had competing and thus conflicting updates vying for processor time, hence why you will see high disk and cpu usilisarion and very sluggish performance.

          Once you have a “usable” system, you may want to disable the av for a few hours and then run the OEM firmware/bios/drivers updater and then confirm all windows security updates have installed, finish off by re-enabling the av and forcing that to do an update and manual scan. Then update the third-party stuff the av is flagging as in need of update.

          As noted above, use tools like ccleanup with thought, I change the cleanup setting to just do a cache clear, leaving cookies, history etc alone. (Likewise with disk cleanup, I tend to not clean the Download folder.)

  9. Grunchy Silver badge

    I’m a Mac Emigrant

    LOVED the SE/30 and NCSA Mosaic, and its cheerful “quack” sound effects.

    … ever since then, no.

    (I still utilize Win10 as a VM, from within Ubuntu, with a dedicated Vega56. I suppose I could set up a OS-X VM, but the hill of “don’t care” has proven a bit too steep. I still occasionally fire up Win for CAD and Office 2007 Professional. What for, OS-X? The only things I ever used it for were #1 Bolo, #2 Spaceward Ho, #3 Aldus Pagemaker, and #4 Mosaic.)

    1. myhandler

      Re: I’m a Mac Emigrant

      Are you sure Pagemaker ran on OSX? I think it was dead a while before that - a vile program compared to QXPress.

      1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        Re: I’m a Mac Emigrant

        [Author here]

        > a vile program

        Hey! I object! PageMaker was for me one of the single greatest pieces of software ever written. It was a joy to use, and I used it heavily for years. It made attractive page layouts simple and easy to achieve, whereas its rivals, from Ventura DTP to Quark Xpress, were overly complex tools for professionals, and much *much* less discoverable and usable by curious amateurs.

        (FWIW, my other all-time favourite app for the x86 platform was PowerQuest Partition Magic.)

  10. firu toddo
    Facepalm

    v08.2.1

    And on the very day you published the article a patch was released. Really is Windows.

  11. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

    P.S.

    Authorial postscript: an anonymous reader sent in a "correction" that PowerRun chose Alt-Space because Launchy did.

    https://www.launchy.net/about.php

    Note that Launchy first appeared in 2007 and the copyright date on its website is 2008:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchy

    MacOS 10.4 "Tiger" shipped two years earlier:

    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2005/04/12Apple-to-Ship-Mac-OS-X-Tiger-on-April-29/

    I reckon Launchy uses Alt-Space because Tiger used Cmd-Space for Spotlight. In other words it uses it for the same reason PowerRun does.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Whatever the reason, I agree with you: Second thing I do after installing PowerToys is remap Run to Windows-Space. (First thing is to disable the PowerToys I don't use. No reason to have them enabled if I'm not going to use them; that's just asking for confusion.)

      PT Run is so much better than Explorer's Run UI (Win-R) in every respect that I put it on every Win11 instance I have to use as soon as it's spun up. I don't use the dreadful Win11 Start menu at all now.

      Most things still happen from the command line (Cygwin bash is my choice of refreshment), but PT Run is useful often enough.

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