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Private Chinese launch outfit Space Pioneer has launched a rocket by mistake. The company yesterday posted news of a static fire test of the Tianlong-3 liquid carrier rocket, a craft it compares to SpaceX’s Falcon 9. The first stage of the vehicle lit up as planned, with nine engines all roaring and pumping out a combined 820 …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    So, rapid unscheduled disassembly, then ?

    They might want to think about putting the launch pad a bit farther from the nearest town ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So, rapid unscheduled disassembly, then ?

      They quickly found out what those missing files from the stolen Space-X dataset contained

    2. EricM Silver badge

      Let me suggest unscheduled ballistic disassembly for this failure mode

      1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

        Combined with unscheduled lithobraking.

  2. richardcox13

    Multiple Videos and Initial Theorising from Scott Manley

    https://youtu.be/u3-Kw9u37I0

    1. pinkmouse

      Re: Multiple Videos and Initial Theorising from Scott Manley

      Indeed, this armchair rocket scientist concurs with SM , it looks like several engines shut down explosively rather than under ground control. Still, this stuff is perfectly normal in rocket development, the only troubling thing is the location of the test site so near to habitation, it really should be much, much further away.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Multiple Videos and Initial Theorising from Scott Manley

        "the only troubling thing is the location of the test site so near to habitation, it really should be much, much further away."

        True, it is rather close and China has a track record of discarded boosters from inland launch sites coming down rather close to inhabited areas since it's too far from the coast to dump it in the ocean. On the other hand, South Padre island isn't all that far from SpaceX Boco Chica "Starbase", although I don't think they test with more fuel than they need for a short static test and are far less likely to accidental launch.

        1. Francis Boyle

          I suspect

          Musk has consumed enough science fiction to understand the vital importance of a spacecraft having a self-destruct system.

  3. Ikoth
    FAIL

    That's What Happens...

    ...when you buy restraining bolts from AliExpress.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: That's What Happens...

      They're gonna need bigger bolts

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: That's What Happens...

        "They're gonna need bigger bolts"

        Scott Manley made a good observation in that it might not have been the bolts, but the structure holding the propellant tanks and engines not being up to scratch for this sort of test. It might have been built more like a rocket body than having a nice healthy flange on the bottom with some serious mass/strength.

        It's scary how close to a densely populated area that this test site is located for such a large rocket.

    2. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

      Re: That's What Happens...

      Made of Grade A Chinesium

      1. Atomic Duetto

        Re: That's What Happens...

        …. and then bolted together by Spirit/Boeing.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Temu

    Shop like a billionaire

  5. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Coming soon on "Who, me?".

    1. Inventor of the Marmite Laser Silver badge

      That's the name of the designer: Whu Mi

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    - Are you Xi Jinping?

    - Shut up, I'll deal with this.

    - We've launched a rocket by mistake. We're on this launchpad here. Are you Xi Jinping?

    - Stop saying that, of course he's the fucking president.

  7. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Yebbut

    > Space Pioneer's statement says it was secured to a test bench

    what was the test bench secured to?

    1. I am David Jones Silver badge

      Re: Yebbut

      Read again: It was secured to the rocket!

  8. Julian 8

    Are Boeing involved ?

    Maybe the odd bolt or two was missing from the work bench

    1. Alan Brown Silver badge

      Re: Are Boeing involved ?

      NOAA-19 has entered the chat

    2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: Are Boeing involved ?

      Couldn't find bolts the specified size but there were some thinner ones and some big washers...

      1. Francis Boyle

        Maybe

        someone wasn't wearing their glasses. (See the second paragraph in the 'Investigation' section.)

    3. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Are Boeing involved ?

      "Maybe the odd bolt or two was missing from the work bench"

      I had a person I worked with instruct an intern to change some hardware I had the intern working on to "make it more robust". The power supply was connected to a mounting bracket with 4 #8 screws so there was little point to fixing the mounting flange to the chassis with 9mm (3/8") bolts which also had the effect of making the power supply impossible to remove without taking the whole damn chassis apart. My original instructions was to drill and tap #10 holes (we had plenty of that on hand) and install the power supply from the top. Anybody familiar with removable base plates inside standard cabinets knows what I was doing.

  9. UCAP Silver badge

    There is only one way to describe this: ...

    ... oops!

  10. localzuk

    That seems a bit close to an urban area

    Surely with a country as large as China they have some space a good distance away from urban areas to do rocket tests!?

    1. Bebu
      Windows

      Re: That seems a bit close to an urban area

      Surely with a country as large as China they have some space a good distance away from urban areas to do rocket tests!?

      Or in a majority Uighur (or other "difficult" ethnicity) region.

      I vaguely recall the PRC used to do (does?) its nuclear weapons testing in somewhere named Lol Nor which I should imagine is pretty remote and (now) unpopulated.

      I can imagine someone in procurement got some high-tension steel bolts knocked up in the local smithy probably out some discarded horseshoes or cast iron fence railings and pocketed the difference.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: That seems a bit close to an urban area

        China obviously doesn't have the technology to develop a Florida

      2. ian 22

        Re: That seems a bit close to an urban area

        I recall the Chinese bolts used to secure the San Francisco Bay Bridge weren’t up to snuff either. Seems to be a habit in China.

  11. trevorde Silver badge

    Only one thing more spectacular than a successful rocket launch

    an unsuccessful rocket launch!

    1. A.P. Veening Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Only one thing more spectacular than a successful rocket launch

      That deserves a --->

    2. mirachu Bronze badge

      Re: Only one thing more spectacular than a successful rocket launch

      This was an unsuccessful static test tho.

    3. Mike 125

      Re: Only one thing more spectacular than a successful rocket launch

      >an unsuccessful rocket launch!

      Although an unanticipated rocket launch comes a close 3rd

    4. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Only one thing more spectacular than a successful rocket launch

      Did they just miss July 4 fireworks by couple o' days?

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    You tightened the bolts, right?

    No. My job was to patriotically stand and sing the national anthem.

  13. Alan Brown Silver badge

    Far away, isn't

    Maps show it's about 2-3 miles to the urban centre

    They were very lucky it didn't go far

    1. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: Far away, isn't

      Urban centers have a habit of creeping up to non-urban areas. We used to have atomic piles and subsequently rocket testing going on at Santa Susana, a site tucked in the hills that gradually found itself surrounded on three sides by upscale suburbia. (I live about 12 miles from the site as the crow flies and I know from experience that rocket tests are LOUD.) The lab eventually got shut down, more likely due to the relevant bits of aerospace company rationalizing and moving away** than anything else, leaving everyone -- suddenly its 'everyone' -- with a small cleanup problem.

      (**The aerospace facility in the San Fernando Valley that had a shuttle engine displayed outside its entrance has been razed and converted into an administrative complex and practice fields for the LA "Rams" football team.)(Says it all, really.)

      (PS -- For UK readers -- ever wonder what was going on in Burghfield, south west of Reading?)

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Far away, isn't

        Urban centers have a habit of creeping up to non-urban areas

        Particularly when there's something in the non-urban area that employs a lot of people. People like to live close to where they work, so wherever the nearest land available for building is found there will be housing constructed there.

        1. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Far away, isn't

          "People like to live close to where they work"

          They like even better to commute miles and miles to work if they can find a home that's cheap. Those homes have a tendency to be where there aren't many jobs (outside of development companies), along flight paths surrounding good sized airports (or business jet strips), near sewerage treatment plants, etc etc. Those that can do math will spend an extra few bob for a home close to work and not pay the same overall with a higher percentage of travel costs.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Far away, isn't

        Atomic piles .... you need preparation H

      3. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Far away, isn't

        " We used to have atomic piles and subsequently rocket testing going on at Santa Susana"

        I know that area. They also melted down some stuff doing stupid things and the site is still being reclamated. JPL used to be a "propulsion lab" since up in the canyons was a good place to test things. It's too densely populated around there now to do those sorts of things. People will complain about airport noise when they move to a home right under a known, long established flight path. What? You didn't notice the passenger jets flying over in two minute intervals when you bought/lease the property headed into LAX? <insert Captain Picard face palm>

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Far away, isn't

          Or you could be in my situation. This house is on final approach to an airport that has been, for 50+ years limited to Lear jets (or smaller). Two years ago, the county shut it down to repave the runway. What they didn't tell us is that they were repaving it to increase the size of jets that it could handle. There are now several large Embraer and Boeing wide-body jets that land there nightly.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: Far away, isn't

            Or, in our case, we could barely hear the passenger jets flying out to sea to turn and land when the wind is opposite to the usually prevailing direction, but now that fuel use and pollutant emissions are important for their bottom line, they come over much lower and slower than they used to. They are probably quieter, being slower and on a long low glide path, but being much lower, sound much louder than they used to.

  14. Gary Stewart Silver badge

    Those Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines

    They go up didy up up, they come down didy down down. That was my introduction to Benny Hill, although it was many (many) years later before I learned who he was.

    1. StudeJeff

      Re: Those Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines

      GREAT movie, it's about time I watch that again.

  15. Umbracorn
    Mushroom

    At least we got video of this one

    Historically relevant comparison: Xichang disaster 1996.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/disaster-at-xichang-2873673/

  16. Dinanziame Silver badge
    Angel

    "Thankfully, nobody was hurt by this incident."

    This pretty much only means that they didn't find anything on the site of the explosion... which, considering the size of the explosion, was only to be expected

  17. MacDBB

    Trajectory optional

    Well, they do appear to be following the same trajectory as the early SpaceX launches, so if they 'acquired' their specifications, then they're definitely sticking closely to the original script.

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Meh

      Re: Trajectory optional

      /me coughs a few times while saying "ripoff!"

      They say that "Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery". But in China's case, "Imitation is best the way to do business".

      They should stop making cheap knock-offs of things that are (intentionally or otherwise) capable of flying.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gravity says

    Not so fast big fella!

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