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  1. SVD_NL Silver badge
    Facepalm

    mit der Steife unten rechts

    Don't you hate it when you can't get money from the ATM because you dress to the left?

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

      Yeah, a really hard proposition.

    2. sebacoustic

      Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

      Nein! Nein!

      Bonafide Kraut here, providing unnecessary detail:

      "die Streife" means patrol (e.g. plod)

      "der Streifen" means strip or stripe

      1. OhForF' Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        While we are discussing german words:

        "der Steife" means "the Stiff one" - a nod to the grown up jokes?

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

          To add on it:

          "Die Steife" was brand name for whipped cream spray in Germany.

          While "Die Steifeprüfung" was not a test for whipped cream spray, but a movie with the content you expect.

      2. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge

        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        Well as bona fide kraut you should have also pointed out that "mit der Steife unten rechts" make no grammatical sense.

    3. Bebu
      Childcatcher

      Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

      While we're in the neighborhood …

      "On which side does sir dress?"

      I had thought that use of to dress had passed with captain Peacock and Mr Grainger but clearly not as the previous post indicates.

      (Not such a silly question from ones tailor as I am assured a slight adjustment is made to accommodate the difference. ;)

      I am sure I would be so embarrassed by the ATM I wouldn't know where to mit meiner Steife*.

      * Steife(f?)

      1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        Stifler's Mom has got it going on......

      2. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
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        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        I am assured a slight adjustment is made to accommodate the difference.

        ...or a "not so slight" adjustment, as warranted by the dimensions of the equipment involved...

      3. heyrick Silver badge
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        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        When I was getting fitted for a school uniform back in 1985 I was asked that question.

        Nearly forty bloody years and I finally understand what he was asking me.

        He was very "Are You Being Served" and I was, well, a difficult eleven year old. I don't remember what I said (probably something like "whatever side of bed I fall out of") and he said "Jesus Mary and all the saints" and threw his tape measure at my mother and then stormed out of the room. She cracked up, then finished measuring me. Dude was WEIRD.

        But, hey, now I understand the question, so I can give the flippant answer on purpose.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

          I had to google that. I've never been asked it, and I'm older than you are.

          I've also never had a "school uniform" in my life, and I tend to buy any suits I have to wear from the same prestigious brand my father did: I•R•R•E•G•U•L•A•R. It's quite the best brand according to him, and given he had to wear a suit for work every day in case he might have to go to court (small town lawyering was like that) he was an expert.

          And now that I know... It goes in the middle. I have a convenient "compacts neatly for travel" model. I'd hate to have to deal with it dangling. So the question would be pointless for me anyway.

          1. heyrick Silver badge
            Happy

            Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

            "never had a \"school uniform\" in my life" ...and... "small town lawyering"

            Just gonna go out on a limb here and guess we're from different sides of the ocean.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

          I am told that in Swedish it is/was PTH or PTV: abbreviation for "Penis Till Höger" or "Penis Till Vänster", i.e. Penis To the Right or Left.

      4. david 12 Silver badge

        Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

        I am assured a slight adjustment is made

        The question presumes that one is wearing boxer shorts.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: mit der Steife unten rechts

          > The question presumes that one is wearing boxer shorts.

          Not quite. It only assumes you are not doing/wearing anything that may interfere with Nature's Bounty, such as the (apocryphal) behaviour of Prince Albert.

          Therefore, *not* wearing boxer shorts will also warrant correctly answering the question, if, at the time, you are also *not* wearing briefs, nor budgie smugglers, nor a thong, nor ...

  2. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

    It would of course not do ...

    to blame the upper echelons in management for skimping on a test environment, which was ultimately the root cause of the issue. I do feel a more experienced BOFH might have hinted that said "grown-up humour" apparently came from somewhere in the system, possibly from management or beancounters, but he would need to spend some serious (paid) overtime researching who he was going to pin it on was responsible for this problem.

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: It would of course not do ...

      Yes, it was a Hugh-ge mistake for him to not do it

    2. GuldenNL

      Re: It would of course not do ...

      He couldn't pin it on anyone else, he was the sole guy.

      I know this dipshiesse and this is the least of his "mistakes."

  3. PBuon

    Always be prepared to blame someone else.

    1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

      Always hold your hand up and admit your mistakes ..... when they are small ones. This builds a reserve of trust in your honesty.

      When that career ending mistake happens you are far more likely to be believed when you say it wasn't you! It will also give you time to find and delete the log files!

      1. Joe W Silver badge

        Don't delete the logs, that only raises suspicion!

        Dump them full of gibberish, then blame systemd,..

        1. cookieMonster
          Thumb Up

          Finally an honest to goodness reason for its existence

  4. Chewi

    Vicidial

    Heh, we tried Vicidial at my old place. The 90s web UI looked right at home with our other aging crap. I don't think we ever actually used it in anger though. Probably just as well!

    1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Vicidial

      I don't think we ever actually used it in to induce anger though

      FTFY?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Vicidial

      > Vicidial

      I can not read that word without thinking it is some form of insecticide, or a misspelling of ovicidal.

      But on closer inspection, it is obviously just an shortened form of "victim dial".

  5. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge
    Devil

    Crowley!

    Thanks to Messrs Pratchett and Gaiman, we already know exactly what the worst thing that can happen to a workplace like that looks like, and in my opinion it can't happen to them all fast enough.

    1. Bebu
      Pint

      Re: Crowley!

      Very good!

      Unfortunately the misguided apprentice antichrist restored that scurvy lot to this world and not somewhere more subterraneanly appropriate.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: Crowley!

        > Unfortunately the misguided apprentice antichrist restored

        You have to blame Pterry's good nature for that resolution to Neil's crowd pleasing (but icky) idea.

  6. Bebu
    Windows

    "300-odd sales agents realized the scripts they were reading to prospective customers"

    Cleary these odd sales agents don't peruse their scripts before inflicting the contents on their victims.

    On the other hand these R rated spiels would be infinitely more amusing than the typical timeshare scams of the period and might have signed up a few adult site subscriptions.

    1. tatatata

      Re: "300-odd sales agents realized the scripts they were reading to prospective customers"

      Nor do they seem to understand what they're doing.

      If I was on a phone following a script, and the script told me to inflict some NSFW language on a potential customer, I would not follow that part of the script.

      Unless, of course, those callcenter employees could not care less either.

      1. ttlanhil

        Re: "300-odd sales agents realized the scripts they were reading to prospective customers"

        A lot of them probably didn't care - but it's also possible that they've had an Edict from On High that any deviation from the script means a write up and loss of pay...

      2. david 12 Silver badge

        Re: "300-odd sales agents realized the scripts they were reading to prospective customers"

        I would not follow that part of the script.

        Then you worked at a different call center.

        Some call centers are very specific about following the script. Follow the script or get fired.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Every time I've ever left a job, I've always told the colleagues I liked that I was leaving behind to not hesitate to throw me under the bus (repeatedly if necessary) to save their own skin once I'm out of the door.

    If nothing else, it's a theory you can throw at shouty management that buys you time to figure out what the hell has actually gone wrong, and why. You can always row back later on with "oh on first look we thought it was X, but it actually turns out that wasn't the root cause, it was Y".

    1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

      "oh on first look we thought it was X, but it actually turns out that wasn't the root cause, it was Y".

      With "Y" preferably an ex-employee at an higher level.

      1. UCAP Silver badge

        The best candidate for "Y" being an ex-CEO; they would not dare to contact him to find out whether the dodgy images are actually theirs!

        1. Not Yb Silver badge

          I would have blamed the guy who kept going to porn sites using company computers, not knowing that the transparent proxy was logging everything.

          1. DropBear

            Wait, what? No HTTPS? Or was it company-sanctionedly scuttled...?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I’ve never thrown former colleagues under the bus. Except when they deserved it. I expect pretty much the same when I leave a job.

      IT is a pretty small world, and word goes around…

      If I leave for greener pastures, I make sure I leave affairs in order. And that even goes when I’m on holiday. In the past I had calls during my holiday for “urgent” matters (not from C-levels, I don’t pick up calls from them during my well-deserved rest, only from IT coworkers), my first response was always : “have you checked documentation ?” and their reply was invariably 30 seconds of silence and then “ok, thanks, I won’t bother you again, next pint is on me”.

  8. FrogsAndChips Silver badge

    "apt package that caused the script to read from the incorrect NFS mount"

    Sounds straight from Simon's playbook! Bravo!

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "As you might imagine, this was not exactly a high-profit business, so an awful lot was done on the cheap. Thus the open source system"

    The 90's called, and Microsoft want their FUD back.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      DID YOU WARN THEM ABOUT 9/11???!!!!????

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Large site offline due to copy and paste

    I know a guy who was copying and pasting config from a live site (big site, very important to the business, distribution). He, for some bizarre reason, was in global config for the core switch on the live site and hit the right mouse button which in putty pastes the clip board into the window. This would have been OK if it had been the config from the live site into the switch he was building but it was the config he had edited for the new switch, for a new site with new IPs, into the live site core switch.

    It was a cautionary tale about least available privilege and not sitting on global config (or even enable) when you don't need to be. Dumping the live site config into notepad and then closing the session to the live router would have been better, pulling the config from the backups and not logging in to a live site would have been even better.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Large site offline due to copy and paste

      after enable mode:

      rel in 5 (or other appropriate interval)

      (Do the needful...)

      (If all is well):

      wri mem

      rel can

      (If all is not well, repeat a variation of the following to everyone who calls you):

      "Network trouble? No, I havent heard... let me check a few things... ohhh, intersting, we seem to have some congestion on the Ethernet that's exceeding the token rate of the backbone, let me see if I can reset that for you, you should see things get back to normal in about X* minutes"

      *where X = (reload time + router boot time + route convergence time) - ( T(now) - T(when you started mucking with the router))

      1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

        Re: Large site offline due to copy and paste

        *where X = (reload time + router boot time + route convergence time) - ( T(now) - T(when you started mucking with the router))

        You forgot *2 in the above calculation (the Scotty factor of underpromising and overdelivering).

    2. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: Large site offline due to copy and paste

      Did he putty it there?

      I have a reason to recommend "MouseIsXterm"=dword:00000002

    3. Giles C Silver badge

      Re: Large site offline due to copy and paste

      If I am using putty then that is the first thing I disable, I hate that ‘feature’

      Keyboard shortcut copy and paste only here.

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Large site offline due to copy and paste

        My defaults include, on top of that, font size 11, bold. The colors adjusted so "blue" is not "ultra-dark-nightscope-only" blue, but a brighter shade of it to be readable. The other colors too of course. 132x40. The bell flashes instead of making that useless sound.

  11. Jedit Silver badge
    Devil

    That must have been an interesting call session

    "Good afternoon sir, I am calling from -"

    "Fuck you."

    "Hold on sir, I haven't got to that line of the script yet."

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Under the bus

    The big boss has no problem throwing current staff under the bus.

    Anyone who has left or is absent will get thrown under the bus at the drop of a hat.

    I am covered in tyre marks as I am currently on the sick.

    1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Under the bus

      Elon is that you?

  13. chivo243 Silver badge
    Go

    I am the "former employee"

    I tell my ex-colleagues to get as much milage out of it as possible. As the last man to quit or be fired will be blamed for all future problems! Right Tibor?

    1. The commentard formerly known as Mister_C Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I am the "former employee"

      t's the Snowball effect.

      Mine's the one with a copy of "Animal Farm" in the pocket -->

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    On my moral high horse...

    Ranking the sins from least to greatest:

    3. Reading NSFW at work

    2. agreeing to work for an annoying call centre instead of waiting for a better job

    1. blaming Ubuntu ;-)

  15. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
    Happy

    The question of

    have I ever thrown a previous employee under the bus is yes

    Not on purpose but it was rather funny.......

    You see he had a little falling out with the boss.... well more than a little.... imagine huge screaming match with extra shouting and door banging. and thus he left.

    Cue 2 months later after I'd replaced him and the boss takes over the cutting robot I'd been using as I had the day off.

    Now this cutting robot had data tables in it for all sorts of cutting conditions..... metal type , thickness, laser power etc etc etc

    What I didnt know was there were about 200 entries.... and the last entries had comments..... rather NSFW comments about the boss and his sexual preferences.. and he scrolled to the end ....

    Then tried to blame me for it when I got in the next day

    I told him "first it wasn't me, second I'm far more upfront and honest about what I say about people, and thirdly I'd tell you to your face if I thought you were a ---- ------- with a hint of ----- ---- ----ing"

    I lasted 3 more weeks before telling him to stick the job up his ---- ------ backside.

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