back to article Uncle Sam sanctions Kaspersky's top bosses – but not Mr K himself

Uncle Sam took another swing at Kaspersky Lab today and sanctioned a dozen C-suite and senior-level executives at the antivirus maker, but spared CEO and co-founder Eugene Kaspersky. The move prevents US persons and organizations from doing business with the designated individuals. Any non-US financial institution that works …

  1. mikus

    I wonder what happens when a nation admits Israel hits war crime status and they have to extricate Israeli technology from government and businesses. They make all the best government malware too, drat.

  2. mostly average
    Gimp

    I miss John McAfee

    Antivirus software is so boring without the blackjack and hookers.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Big Brother

    The integrity of our cyber domain /s

    Stop using KGB potentially bugged AV software and start using our NSA guaranteed bugged AV software /s

    Why are so many US cyber security companies headed by former Mossad officials, such as Black Cube, NSO Group and XM Cyber ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The integrity of our cyber domain /s

      Also worth noting that there are a lot of leveraged buyouts of EU security companies by US entities. It surely is a coincidence that if that goes tits up we would have to solely rely on US products..

    2. Insert sadsack pun here

      Re: The integrity of our cyber domain /s

      "Why are so many US cyber security companies headed by former Mossad officials, such as Black Cube, NSO Group and XM Cyber ?"

      None of them are 'US cyber security companies'. As you know perfectly well, they are all Israeli. Black Cube and NSO Group don't even have a presence in the US. Stop making stuff up.

  4. IGotOut Silver badge

    Something is missing

    .. I get the feeling we're not being told the whole story.

    First they sanction the company, long after pt2 of the Ukraine invasion occured. And normally they tell people why they have hit the individuals.

    Even for the US it seems odd to sanction them because "they MAY do something"

    1. TJ1
      Joke

      Re: Something is missing

      You don't think the "intelligence" agencies are open-source do you? - they always protect their methods and sources !

    2. david 12 Silver badge

      Re: Something is missing

      It's a generic sanction, so it doesn't have to have any 'whole story' at all.

      The US government decided that the "technology sector" would be blocked, and Kaspersky operates in the "technology sector", so it's blocked.

      The regulation requires the government to actually name people that are sanctioned, but that's to make the sanctions work on the American side.

    3. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: Something is missing

      >"they MAY do something"

      I think its likely a question of priorities. There's some junior-ish official in the relevant government department who's got a bee in their bonnet about Kaspersky, maybe for no other reason that it sounds foreign/Russian. But they have to compete for attention with a whole bunch of others who want to sanction this, that and the other so it drops down the job queue. Now things are relatively quiet (because, frankly, we've run out of other stuff to sanction) so its bubbled to the surface. It may be unimportant or irrelevant but the machine will grind into life with appropriate pronunciations, press releases, convincing sounding regulations and so on. "All sound and fury, signifying nothing......"

      I have a really uncomfortable feeling that we (the US) as a country have lost the plot. We don't have coherent policy on anything, much less constructive policies. Its just a bunch of civil servants churning out paper for another bunch of civil servants to enforce. The rest of us just go about trying to deal with real problems, everyday stuff like paying bills, trying to make ends meet and the like. (.....and anyone who's got their head screwed on about security would have long since moved on from Windows, especially if they're a 'nation state'!)

      1. Necrohamster Silver badge

        Re: Something is missing

        "There's some junior-ish official in the relevant government department who's got a bee in their bonnet about Kaspersky, maybe for no other reason that it sounds foreign/Russian."

        Ctrl-F for Kaspersky in this document:

        https://www.cdse.edu/Portals/124/Documents/casestudies/case-study-nghia-pho.pdf

        Not long after that guy was caught, US government departments were ordered to uninstall Kaspersky software.

        Kaspersky tried to sue in court, alleging that the ban was “arbitrary and capricious". But of course they knew what had happened, and exactly why they were being banned

    4. NoneSuch Silver badge
      Stop

      Re: Something is missing

      "that the Russia-based antivirus developer could be forced or ordered by Putin to backdoor its products and hand over American individuals and organizations' sensitive information from their PCs to Kremlin intelligence."

      Twitter, Microsoft, Facebook and a hundred other companies have turned over private info on US citizens to the US Gov.

      Pot, meet kettle. Hypocrisy, meet reality.

      A universal privacy law is needed. One that forces corporations to opt everyone out of their surveillance services and not force people in through one sided EULA.

  5. zb42

    In the year 2017, Eugene Kapsersky was ask to apper before a US congressional committee to answer questions about his anti-virus software.

    He requested an expedited visa to enter the USA, which was denied.

    1. that one in the corner Silver badge
  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Clicked on the story wondering...

    ... why there's a picture of Bruce Campbell giving a speech.

    1. Yankee Doodle Doofus Bronze badge

      Re: Clicked on the story wondering...

      The American actor? That looks nothing like him. Grey hair is about the only similarity.

  7. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Black Helicopters

    'tis obvious

    Kaspersky was obviously doing the job far too well, and was a "problem" to the TLAs.

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