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Return to office (RTO) mandates don't work, at least not for a reported 50 percent of Dell staff in the US, some of whom are prepared to let go of promotion hopes and start looking for alternatives that offer more flexibility. worker Study finds a quarter of bosses hoped RTO would make employees quit READ MORE According to …

  1. Someone Else Silver badge

    A Dell brain-drain could (likely will) result in it looking much like Micros~1, with insufficient numbers of quality workers to properly design and create their products.

    Brilliant!

    Lessee now, how does that go? Ready...Aim at foot...Fire...Reload...Repeat as desired.

    1. cyberdemon Silver badge
      Angel

      Dell brain-drain

      Is that what they're calling their new line of AI PCs?

  2. -maniax-
    FAIL

    Corporate Culture?

    > ...before he promoted a return to the communal desks amid fears younger staff and newbies weren't being assimilated into the corporate culture.

    Also known as not being sufficiently indoctrinated

    1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Corporate Culture?

      What is corporate culture ?

      Isnt that just another word for working extra hours for no pay and being the comapnies bitch not asking or taking holidays or sick leave or any sort of leave ?

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    So why should potential customers or, indeed, shareholders believe anything else Jeff Clarke night say? And why should any company planning on having staff work remotely buy from a company which doesn't rely on its products to facilitate that for its own staff?

    1. MiguelC Silver badge
      Trollface

      You could always ask Zoom about it

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  5. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Trollface

    Green flag indicates "regular onsite presence"

    Hey, one day a month is regular, by definition.

    1. Snowy Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Green flag indicates "regular onsite presence"

      So is once a year, do they do a staff party?

  6. Ace2 Silver badge

    They’ve made it damn near impossible to get a promotion, anyway. People noticed, and have devalued the threat accordingly.

    1. UnknownUnknown

      … and realised like many other company …

      … there is no such thing as company/employee loyalty any more so you have a maximum career there of 10 years or so.

      Effectively promotion etc is a load of horseshit.they will take any old wanker on as a new senior or principle - and on better money than you - whereas ‘earning your way up’ is nigh on impossible/pointless.

  7. MachDiamond Silver badge

    Sideways

    Many companies don't value their current employees and will hire new staff at a better salary before offering a bump to somebody they already have. The same goes for promoting from within over hiring in people for more senior roles. This means many business people will change employers when it's time for a raise or they'd like to take on a more senior role (with raise). If Dell is going to place limits on paying more or promoting those that WFH, what's the difference? If you are working from home, you can shop for that new job and take calls without having to do a quick check to see if your supervisor is around.

    1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Sideways

      BULSHIT.

      This move at all is another example of management doing stupid crap just to show they exist and have power otherwise people might notice they actually contribute nothing and are a tax that gives nothing back.

  8. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    Hang on is this the same dell that has all its computers manufactured remotely or are they bringing in the manuf process for everything on site ?

    Wil the electricity for those ofices also be onsite, because off site electricity is also evil, i mean how do you know they are truely working eficiently if dell bosses cant see them ? Same question for other utlities ?

  9. Dave_A

    Since you get promoted by job hopping....

    Why not stay remote?

    15 ish years in IT and never seen one of these all important internal promotions.... Always quit and go work somewhere else for more money if you want to advance....

    The whole thing is a huge pile of executive disconnect (eg, they all fought each other to move up within the company & had work lives full of collaboration and meetings, so they assume everyone does) and showing the employees who's boss (a noted point from inside Amazon - 'if everyone stopped bitching about it we'd stop caring about it, but as long as there is resistance we will keep pushing it - WRT RTO things)

    1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Since you get promoted by job hopping....

      Because managers need to look like they are doing something otherwise, they themselves might be fired because they are scared of the truth that they are unnecessary.

      What you need to understand is that managers are not your friend, they are scheming people who lie and "pretend" they are valuable and important... which the exact opposite of the contributions they actually are.

      This reminds me of the Sydney Trains... every few years when theres a new government or a new "ceo", what do they do ? THey change the colour of the stripe along the trains or the logo, real important stuff that makes things safer and faster. THis is the same its all about visibility and bullshitting for the camera or the audeince.

      1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

        Re: Since you get promoted by job hopping....

        Some managers are like that. The good ones get out of your way an empower you to actually do a good job, instead of looking over your shoulder all the time waiting to be thrown under the corporate bus.

        Shame the bad ones end up tarring the good ones.

      2. Bebu Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Since you get promoted by job hopping....

        《This reminds me of the Sydney Trains... 》

        New CEO and the locos and rolling stock get new livery... not that anyone actually notices.

        I remember at one point (possibly David Hill's tenure) the route map in the carriages (think London Tube map) was "updated" becoming close to useless and showed "proposed" lines which still haven't eventuated two decades later.

        Working in an organisation that had a decent turnover of CTOs, whenever a new appointment was announced my immediate and gratuitously shared thought was always "how much did they fucked up their previous employer's IT." The miracle of internet would often expose the answer in gory detail. ;)

        At least one cloudy wonder has passed over a blighted land from one horizon of a dismal past to the opposite horizon of another's future disaster.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    [Dell employee] Management lied. So what else is new? AI isn't going to replace any workers either, so we are told... uh-huh.

  11. Hopping Bunny

    Classic demand-supply situation

    It all boils down to who is in greater need. An employee market means that one can jump at will, pick from a dozen job offers, and dictate his/her terms. Switch to an employer market and replace these phrases like so: pick from a dozen candidates, dictate the company's terms. Welcome to capitalism!

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It all boils down to who is in greater need. An employee market means that one can jump at will, pick from a dozen job offers, and dictate his/her terms. Switch to an employer market and replace these phrases like so: pick from a dozen candidates, dictate the company's terms. Welcome to capitalism!

    1. Someone Else Silver badge

      We know who you are AC...just look a couple of posts above...

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    computer company?

    Once received an _all company_ email, "HELL, is a marketing company ... "

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