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Microsoft has quietly frozen the rollout of Windows 11 24H2 to Windows Insiders on the Release Preview Channel. The pause was announced via an addition to the original release blog, in which Microsoft had earlier boasted of the preview of new features ahead of general availability later in 2024. The update included goodies …

  1. original_rwg
    Joke

    Comming soon....

    Windows 12?

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Comming soon....

      But 12 is no longer prime. You'd be getting four times Windows 3.

      Distributed on floppies, a whole barrel full of 'm. Maybe not so bad after all.

      1. cyberdemon Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Comming soon....

        So, it'll be more like Windows 8 then?

      2. Snowy Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Comming soon....

        Or skip 12 and got straight to 13, but that may be unlucky for some.

      3. The man with a spanner Bronze badge

        Re: Comming soon....

        Can we have Windows 13 please. What could posibly go wrong?

        1. Not Yb Bronze badge

          Windows 13?

          This question has a possible answer.

          https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17011010/

    2. Groo The Wanderer

      Re: Comming soon....

      That requirement for an "AI-enabled PC" just screams "CPU upgrades required just because, m'kay?"

      1. Snake Silver badge

        Re: screaming CPU upgrade

        But that's exactly what the industry is hoping for and just one of reasons for the AI push - they NEED something to drive the upgrade cycle. "A bit faster and less energy" hasn't had the sales push they needed for the past 6 years and the industry is hoping for a sales "savior".

        It's not sarcasm, it's the damn truth.

    3. parrot

      Re: Comming soon....

      That’s numberwang!

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Comming soon....

        Overheard in the corridors of Redmond...

        "HansSatya... are we the baddies? Look at our employee badges and company-logo'd polo shirts... they've got skulls on them..."

  2. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    They need to figure out a way to put more adverts in it, and also to find ever more insidious ways of making people set up a Microsoft account.

    1. andy gibson

      Never seen an ad in Windows

      Maybe its just me, my location, and the version of Windows I'm pinching from work as part of our volume agreement but:

      I've never seen a single ad in any version of Windows

      I've never had to create a Microsoft account

      1. IGotOut Silver badge

        Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

        Enterprise edition doesn't carry ads.

        However, just look on YouTube on how hard it is NOT to create an account for the very latest version. It involves disabling network connectivity, clicking on several things, rebooting back into windows, setting it up then enabling network activity again.

        1. Sudosu Bronze badge

          Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

          That's how I've been installing Windows 10 for years.

      2. JWLong Silver badge

        Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

        I've never seen a single ad in any version of Windows

        I've never had to create a Microsoft account

        Build your own ISO using DISM, (Mount the ISO, cd to it, and enter "setup PRODUCT SERVER".

        Import your registry settings,

        Set your group Policy,

        Copy in your Host file,

        Install your Fire-wall rules,

        I include FireFox, Brave, and Vivaldi browsers (I include a cookie manager extension)

        I install my Office Pro 2013, preactivated, all the necessary updates locally available.

        I've had a HotMail account since 96-97, it's now 365 but you can access everything from a web page they host so none of that crap (they may host it but I control it!)

        I've been beating up on Micro$oft~/DOSe/Windoze since IBM hired them.

        My searches never go to the internet, never seen Cortana, anybody got a picture of her? No BS pop ups anywhere. My desktop looks like Win7 and have seen zero AI junk.

        I still use the Windows 7 backup to a USB spinning rust drive AND THE OLD CONTROL PANEL STILL WORKS!!!!!

        I'm not set as an enterprise user but can use KMS and WSUS if I wanted too.

        Sure is fun making Micro$oft~ look bad to people that pay them in different ways.

        1. fajensen

          Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

          If you are almost building from source anyway, you should just use Linux.

      3. fajensen
        Windows

        Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

        I think it strongly depends on the license.

        I worked a bit at a trade school. Knowing their budget, I know that they would have procured the most pathetic and cheap option that it was still possible to install Office 365 on. I belive that is why my corprat-IT-installed Windows 11 was positively riddled with adds and "feeds" and "Microsoft VIva Insights" blabbing about my colleagues Teams activity (to remind people that it is Right Now compiling a dossier to the boss So You Better Watch It, Boy) as well as sniffing around in the GDPR-regulated data we worked on!

        Total piece of thrash that was!

        1. Sudosu Bronze badge

          Re: Never seen an ad in Windows

          Ah "Microsoft VIva Insights", the company's telemetry program.

          The did nerf it slightly so as not to flag you directly for not attending enough Teams meetings or not typing in Excel often enough...but the data still exists.

  3. b0llchit Silver badge
    Megaphone

    ...an indicator that maybe – just maybe – Microsoft listens to its users after all.

    Surely, you're joking. They haven't listened to users before and sure as hell will not start now. The "OS" has become a pure vehicle of user tracking and user analysis for control and to sling more junk at usersconsumers. A bright example of capitalism.

    They will only listen to their bottom line and their partners in crimecapitalism.

    1. DJO Silver badge

      But it does listen to it's lawyers and I suppose they use PCs so one could call them "users" so instead of the obviously incorrect "Microsoft listens to its users after all." perhaps "Microsoft listens to a very small subset of users." would be better.

      1. ThatOne Silver badge

        Nah, their lawyers surely get the "corporate edition" on which you can actually--wait for it--work!... (Imagine that!)

        The "nonsense edition" is only for the hapless masses, those you can abuse all you want.

    2. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Unhappy

      that is not 'capitalism'

      Exploitation is not capitalism. Capitalism is a fair exchange of money for goods and/or services based on free market value. For it to work properly, you need competition and a level playing field.

      What THEY are doing is more like the monopolies and trusts of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In other words, EXPLOITATION in an UNFAIR market.

      1. Geoff Campbell Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: that is not 'capitalism'

        Capitalism is the worship of capital. "Fair exchange" has never had anything to do with it, at all - if anything, that's more of a Socialist concept.

        GJC

      2. J.G.Harston Silver badge

        Re: that is not 'capitalism'

        That's not capitalism, that's free markets. Capitalism is using capital to generate revenue.

        The other post isn't capitalism either, that's merchantilism. (sp?)

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    rust in the kernel?

    don't put that on the box!

    1. cob2018
      Megaphone

      Re: rust in the kernel?

      Why not ? Don't you believe in the "truth in advertising" practice that is claimed by so many nations ??

    2. druck Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: rust in the kernel?

      That's been there for ages, along with dry rot in the drivers, damp in the DLLs, and woodworm in the windows.

    3. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: rust in the kernel?

      Rust in the kernel - I was wondering if this might be behind some of the observed problems.

      /me imagines a GARBAGE COLLECTION STALL creating frequent performance lags at the kernel level...

      (Then again C-pound is probably WORSE about garbage collection than Rust, but probably is NOT in the kernel, only the grossly inefficient 'Windows Shell' internals)

      1. F. Frederick Skitty Silver badge

        Re: rust in the kernel?

        Rust doesn't have a garbage collector you berk.

      2. mattaw2001

        Re: rust in the kernel?

        FYI Rust is not a garbage collected language. A variable's lifetime and ownership (many readers but only one owner that can write at a time) it part of the language & program. These language features push all the checks and memory management onto the compiler, eliminating runtime checks and the need for a GC, and automatically enforcing thread safely. It can be tricky to code in, however - as a C and C++ programmer debugging architectural problems at the compile stage and having most programs work first time, is completely weird. Normally in C/C++ getting the program compiled is the beginning of my problems...

    4. aizuchi
      Trollface

      Re: rust in the kernel?

      Rust in the kernel.

      Translation: Lipstick on a pig.

      1. Sudosu Bronze badge

        Re: rust in the kernel?

        The rust I don't have an issue with, its the evil that is the problem.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: rust in the kernel?

      ..and the silver spoon...little boy blue and the man in the moon

  5. MatthewSt Silver badge

    Same old...

    Running it on 2 out of 3 devices and it's been fine... same problems as the previous version (Start menu stops accepting input etc) but no new ones that I noticed. They're finally shipping it with a version of refsutil that works with the version of ReFS on the disk and it does indeed make builds run faster so I'm happy with that!

    1. Jurassic.Hermit

      Re: Same old...

      My current latest release of Windows 11 does that from time to time. It's not fit for release, they are having a laugh whilst we suffer.

  6. Zibob Silver badge

    Quicker than I thought

    "While Microsoft noted that AI functionality, including the controversial logging feature Recall, would not immediately be available "as they require a Copilot+ PC," enabling Recall on a PC lacking the exotic AI silicon proved relatively straightforward for security expert Kevin Beaumont."

    I previously posited that while they say no Recall based information leaves the PC, I speculated they would do AI infrencing on the Recall data and thus skirt that promise and still get everything they want.

    I am just surprised it is this blatant and this quick.

    If no iniormation leaves the PC, why would a Copilot+ AI enabled PC be a requirement.

    Obviously this is no confirmation, but the double speak and bent answers only leads to speculation, and the goings on heavily point more and more to them pulling shady business with personal data at a rate never been tried before.

  7. Kev99 Silver badge

    mictosoft strikes again. You'd think that after 38 years the redmondites would know how to write clean, compact, unbloated code. I wonder if GEMM is still available?

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Trollface

      but I thought...

      But I thought ChatGPT is writing their code now... in a lingo that uses GARBAGE COLLECTION!!!

      Only thing worse, they write it in Javascript like their free 'Code' editor. Or, ChatGPT does it. Either way, they can fire all of their "programmers" and replace them with untrained monkeys aka "newcomers".

      1. Piro

        Re: but I thought...

        "Rust

        Memory-safe programming language without garbage collection"

  8. Omnipresent Silver badge

    who woulda' thunk?

    forcing the world's most invasive and bloated OS onto every "personal computer" in the world would be invasive and bloated to the point of no longer being useful?

  9. Excused Boots Silver badge

    Maybe Brandon LeBlanc has taken note of a message from Jason and acted on it for once!

    But of an inside joke - Richard will, I’m sure get the context!

  10. _Elvi_

    Recall == Feature ??

    "At the tail end of last week, Microsoft finally admitted – as it pulled 24H2 from the Release Preview Channel – that the Recall feature, which takes a snapshot of whatever is on the user's screen every few seconds, was going to need some changes before the preview ships on June 18."

    I'm sure the IT "Meatbag surveillance \ Information retrieval team" are gutted ..

    1. Sudosu Bronze badge

      Re: Recall == Feature ??

      They are just going to hide it in the background so they can still steal your screen and feed it to their A.I.

  11. herman Silver badge

    Vista

    There was the Windows Vista fuster cluck, which could take 14 days to delete a file.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft pulls Windows 11 24H2 from Insider Release Preview Channel

    Don't worry!!!

    Windows 11 24H2 will be available 'Real soon now' ....

    With a new lick of paint and exactly the same problems/features & 'Recall' hidden *more* carefully !!!

    Sorry, you didn't think that 'Recall' would be fixed ... as in removed ... Silly you !!! ... that would *only* happen if MS listened !!!

    This is just a marketing tweak ... no more no less !!!

    :)

  13. Zazu56

    Why bother?

    As a non windows user for some time now, I can’t for the life of me, understand why people bother with it. Alternatives are available and not all of them have any sort of steep learning curve.

    1. navarac Silver badge

      Re: Why bother?

      Instead of pulling 24H2 from the RP Channel, perhaps they'd be better just pulling 24H2. How about going back to basics, and sorting the whole code base for some consistency and security? Nah, that would be far too difficult for the kids at Redmond to do, and the loss of advertising revenue would be huge. Oh well.......

    2. Geoff Campbell Silver badge
      Windows

      Re: Why bother?

      I can't, and won't, speak for anyone else, but I still use Windows on my end-user devices because the wider Microsoft ecosystem meets my needs perfectly and cheaply, and doesn't ever cause me any problems.

      I'm very familiar with Linux and FreeBSD, I use both for other purposes, and for my requirements they are very inferior to Windows on end-user devices.

      You may downvote at will. I care not a jot.

      GJC

  14. SoulFireMage
    Stop

    Recall recall as it recalls privacy & security

    No one needed it.

    No one wanted it.

    Expensive on cpu, memory, ssd, energy - why would anyone want a snooper photographing their every intimate pc moment on the vague off chance you might want to search through your own actions, once in a blue moon?

    Besides, a Microsoft AI model, even hosted locally, is going moan and censor itself constantly on at least a sizeable portion of many people's intimate pc moments...

    1. sebacoustic

      Re: Recall recall as it recalls privacy & security

      I was expecting the "recall" pun in the article, if not in the subheader. Was it "too obvious" for the Reg hack?

  15. PeterM42
    Devil

    Come back Windows 7

    All is forgiven.

    1. David Hicklin Silver badge

      Re: Come back Windows 7

      Never left me here...typing this on win7 right now

  16. SnijtraM

    Breadcrumbing as opposed to the real game

    >> an indicator that maybe – just maybe – Microsoft listens to its users after all

    When we discuss human behavior, the type that deals with the antisocial personalities, and how they disrupt communications, workplaces, ethics, and really anything that doesn't serve their isolated own purposes,

    this behavior is called "breadcrumbing".

    Give just enough attention to the matter to make it seem that you care, as opposed to the reality where you absolutely don't. The real game is to hook you in on promises, then coerce you to support their business by *not* making good on any responsibilities, meanwhile changing the terms to state that they're not responsible anyway .. that game is called vendor lock-in.

    If you value your ethics and peace of mind, you should do everything in your power to stay out of it.

  17. xyz Silver badge

    Completely off topic...

    But I'm a bit beyond caring what MS screws up next. I just tried their online AI image generator and it about fucked my phone.

    So off topic, here is the best research article o' the day...

    https://phys.org/news/2024-06-men-dissatisfied-penis-size-gun.html

  18. doesnothingwell

    Quit making excuses

    I said I should use Linux for about 10 years but Windows didn't suck THAT bad. well 5 years ago it did, and I switched. The old windows machines whine they can't update and I just laugh. they behave like they have some value. Somebody tell Satya his horse is pining for the fjords. Beautiful plumage.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Quit making excuses

      I jumped ship for my own computing needs in 2009. Yes, I went over to the dark side (Apple) but also moved all my server needs to Linux.

      That still applies. I use a mixture of MacOS and Rocky Linux (on a 2015 MacBook Pro) for my daily computing needs.

      After 40+ years writing Software for a living including 10+ fighting the madness that is Windows Server (Server 2008 was the last sane version) I am now retired and 100% Microsoft free.

      MS under SatNad has lost the plot even more than during the Balmer Years. I expect that they'll be back making flip phones by the end of the year.(joke)

  19. tiago.pelicari

    Oh really series

    As predicted.

  20. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    Ah, so this is the thing I'm currently babysitting my neighbour's computer through System Restore after it spending a week saying "Please wait, installing critical update"?

    Currently on: Finalising restore....

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