back to article Evidence mounts that Venus has multiple active volcanoes

New research on data collected in the 1990s shows that on Venus, volcanoes are likely to be both more active and widespread than scientists previously understood. Evidence of until-now undiscovered volcanic lava flows in two different regions of Venus has been excavated from a treasure trove of old radar data collected by a …

  1. UCAP Silver badge

    Its amazing how they can dig into 30 year old data sets and turn up something completely new.

    1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Its amazing how they can dig into 30 year old data sets and turn up something completely new.

      Yep. Science is cool like that. Plus the compute power we have now is far greater than we had 30yrs ago, so..

      ..about 1,200 gigabits of data

      Becomes more manageable, and probably a lot cheaper. So I wonder how much of this was a combination of funding + tech, ie ingesting and analysing data would have been a lot more expensive in the past.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Yeah, even back then, 1200GB of data was a decent amount to store and sift through. Now, a £30 SSD can contain the lot :-)

        1. Spherical Cow Silver badge
          Headmaster

          1200 gigabits, not gigabytes ;-)

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Oh, ta, well spotted! So a cheap no-name 5 quid SD card would do then :-)

    2. Pascal Monett Silver badge
      Windows

      Okay, true, but I find it a bit disheartening to learn that we've had this data since 1994 and only now is someone looking at it.

      Hey, Science ! There's stuff to find ! Start looking at what we've already got !

      1. tacitust

        It's likely they're using data analysis techniques yet to be invented when the data was first returned.

    3. myhandler

      It's also amazing they had it stored on cd-rom.

      I wonder if they had backups.

    4. the spectacularly refined chap Silver badge

      Sadly it is all too common. It's hard to get funding for a new space mission but even harder for a review of data already collected. That's the argument for putting everything in the public domain but even that has limitations - if you are a doctoral student you are unlikely to relish the prospect of looking through old data to test a hypothesis that was never envisaged when it was collected, and at the end of three years in all likelihood arriving at a null result.

  2. iron

    > NASA tries to find the budget

    Stop paying Boeing and maybe ye can be going (to Venus).

    1. KarMann Silver badge
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      Per RHCP...

      Perhaps they ought to be trying a subway there, instead.

      --> Hot peppers!

    2. Dizzy Dwarf

      What's needed is boots on the ground

      1. Martin Gregorie

        Boots on the ground...

        Nice idea at first glance, but probably most unpleasant for the bloke(s) wearing the boots.

        For starters, them wearing boots is quite unlikely. Instead the landing crew will be lugging powerful lights because the immensly thick Venusian cloud layer means it is likely to be rather dark on the surface as well as damn hot, and the lower atmosphere may well resemble a pitch black, hot dust storm. Consequently said intrepid explorer(s) will be wearing something more like a deep sea diving suit than a space suit, and it will be fitted with a heavy duty refrigeration system as well as a set of decent lights.

        In reality, any future Venusian explorers are more likely to be driving round in substantial tracked or wheeled refrigerators with good headlights than stomping round Venus in a space suit.

        Sadly, the hot, tropical Venusian jungles filled with ravenous prehistoric beasts in 50's SF stories were no more realistic than the contemporary Martian Canals and Martians were.

        1. Excused Boots Bronze badge

          Re: Boots on the ground...

          It’s not dark on the surface. The Russian probes which landed did manage to take reasonable pictures of the surface without requiring external lights. It may well not be easy to see the sun from the surface as a sphere, rather than a lighter patch of sky.

        2. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          Re: Boots on the ground...

          From

          "At the surface, the atmosphere presses down as hard as water 3,000 feet beneath Earth's ocean."

          and

          "The average temperature on Venus is 864 degrees Fahrenheit (462 degrees Celsius). "

          So, no.

  3. Martin Gregorie

    Woops - got the light level wrong: stupid mistake since I've seen those Russian surface pictures.

    However, I wonder how bright it is at the surface: the lack of much shadow in the Venera photos makes it very hard to tell just how bright the light is at the surface and nobody seems to have publishrd the Venera exposure settings.

    At least I was right about the Venusian atmosphere being both hot and dense (450C, 50 atmospheres) and is 96% CO2.

    Somehow I don't think anybody will bother going there in person, except to claim a Guinness Record or to win a bet.

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