back to article Another week, another leak for Boeing's Starliner crew capsule

Boeing's CST-100 Starliner capsule will spend a little longer on Earth than planned following the discovery of a leak in one of the spacecraft's reaction control thrusters. For context, a few weeks' delay is nothing compared to the years it has taken Boeing to reach this point. The first crewed launch had been set for May 6. …

  1. captain veg Silver badge

    Vertical Integration Facility

    "Currently, the Atlas V rocket and Starliner are in the Vertical Integration Facility at Space Launch Complex-41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida."

    Do they mean the broom cupboard?

    -A.

  2. captain veg Silver badge

    uncrewed

    "The launch follows 2019's near-catastrophic first test flight of an uncrewed Starliner, where iffy quality control processes left the Calamity Capsule unable to reach the International Space Station (ISS)."

    I initially read that as "unscrewed".

    -A.

    1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: uncrewed

      You can get a situation to unscrew itself if you skimp on Loctite.

    2. vincent himpe

      Re: uncrewed

      processes ? what processes ?

  3. jeff_w87

    If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

    I'd say, "How about we make this another unmanned flight and we'll just sit this one out?"

    1. AndrueC Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

      ..I'd prefer to go on an Airbus.

      1. Bill Neal

        Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

        Just wait for the Starliner MAX to come out. It'll be a bang!

        1. MyffyW Silver badge

          Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

          Just wait for the Starliner MAX

          Yes, I suspect it will show an alarming affinity for Earth

    2. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

      Indeed, whilst I'd love to go into space, seeing the Seattle Seal of Quality on anything that flies is not reassuring at the moment.

    3. newspuppy

      Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

      One Astronaut did that.. Resigned.. to have more time with family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Ferguson

      Another due to medical reasons..

      Boeing is a tragic example of how a company that was founded by engineers was ruined by accountants...

      When NASA gave out the contracts to Boeing and Space X, Space X was a dark horse and a token candidate.. No one expected Space X to really deliver.. and for Boeing to not be going...

      I do hope that when this mission happens... no one dies from negligence.

      1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

        Re: If I were the Astronauts assigned to this mission...

        or you could spend that money on something that actually helps humanity instead of stupid biggest dick shows.

  4. AndrueC Silver badge
    Joke

    Are there any unused exit doors that need their bolts installing?

  5. DJV Silver badge

    Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

    Why do I suspect that Boeing probably has a lot of Teds working for them!

    1. bonkers

      Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

      I think this one might be more appropriate

      https://images.app.goo.gl/PvPDp7X5H9L2Syzu6

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

        Interestingly, a recent Everyday Astronaut video was comparing a couple of European rocketry startups (Just checked, this one), and one of the startups made the point that the rockets can be made cheaper and more easily because the don't need to be such perfect cylinders nowadays due to the far superior engine control and gimbling available.

        1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

          Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

          Never mind if you don't quite get the hardware right, we can fix it later with a software patch?

          1. Wanting more

            Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

            You mean a "software pitch"

        2. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

          "one of the startups made the point that the rockets can be made cheaper and more easily because the don't need to be such perfect cylinders nowadays due to the far superior engine control and gimbling available."

          Yes and no. If your car pulls to the right, having power steering makes it easier to correct, but you are still bleeding energy from that.

          Engine gimbling is mostly down to how fast you can swing that mass since for a faster acceleration, you need attachment points that can take those loads. There's also a control limit based on how much the engine can be gimbaled. If you exceed the control authority, the rocket is lost. Computing power isn't even much of a factor and Inertial Management devices have been very good for years now. Consider how accurate it is claimed that ICBMs are and that's old tech still on some of those.

          It's still valuable to build the rocket as perfect as possible so there isn't the need to put energy into the system to keep it stable. That there can be more margin is best left untapped and kept in reserve for off-nominal circumstances.

      2. Giles C Silver badge

        Re: Reminds me of one of my favourite Larson cartoons.

        Well maybe not, both cartoons are good but I think the wings fall off is the better joke to be honest…

      3. captain veg Silver badge

        Rocket science is overrated

        Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

        What have I missed?

        -A.

        1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: Rocket science is overrated

          If you ask that question at Boeing the answer is invariably Quality Control.

        2. Roj Blake Silver badge

          Re: Rocket science is overrated

          The secret sauce is in knowing how to make the action just large enough to create the sort of opposite reaction that makes you go fast, without it being too large (which makes things go boom)

  6. Mishak Silver badge

    the leak is stable and "would not pose a risk at that level during the flight."

    I'm assuming that is for the planned flight profile. What if something causes that to change, requiring a mission extension (e.g. bad weather pushing back the return flight)?

    1. Atomic Duetto

      Re: the leak is stable and "would not pose a risk at that level during the flight."

      They have MCAS enabled for any unplanned eventuality … just haven’t documented or told anybody (plausible deniability)

  7. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    Going to space is like going to the office.

    If you avoid both you will actually have a much better life.

    Theres nothing to do in space, wearing a nappy 24/7/365, getting space sick, living in whats basically a prison...

    or you could save time and avoid the commute and use those hours to do something better with your life like smell the roses.

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      And your odds of actually going to space are... exactly zero (as are mine, and probably everyone's else here), so why the negativity?

      Doesn't mean we, collectively, as a species, shouldn't get out there, do the science, engineering, exploration, and all the other things that may one day mean we aren't bound to this one rock in a vast sea of near-nothingness, waiting to be snuffed out by our own stupidity and another big rock.

      1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

        jimmy: And your odds of actually going to space are...

        cow: i dont want to goto space, just like i dont want to live in a prison.

        jimmy: exactly zero (as are mine, and probably everyone's else here), so why the negativity?

        cow: why should i be forced to positive about it ?

        Is this NK ?

        jimmy: Doesn't mean we, collectively, as a species, shouldn't get out there, do the science, engineering, exploration, and all the other things that may one day mean we aren't bound to this one rock in a vast sea of near-nothingness, waiting to be snuffed out by our own stupidity and another big rock.

        cow: The people on the voyage are not doing science at all, they are celebrities.

        They are actually a distraction, its a waste to travel there and back that achieves nothing but the journey. THe only science learned is how to travel there n back.

        WHen you drive to work and back home, thats not science, thats another person wasting hours of time commuting, and nothing more.

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