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Red Hat is slowing or stopping development of some of its middleware software, a situation which could result in some staff layoffs. The Register has seen what purports to be an internal email from the IBM subsidiary's vice president of Middleware Engineering, Mark Little, revealing that development and maintenance of several …

  1. Alistair

    Still sad about this

    I was hired on the 8th of October, the announcement came shortly after that. The group I was in for orientation in NC talked about nothing else, including how many of us would survive the takeover. Despite the insistence that nothing would change with IBM taking over, we see where this is going. It is now *all* about ROR.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Still sad about this

      The only thing that never changes when IBM takes over is the rapid follow up of people facing redundancy,

      1. Claverhouse Silver badge

        Re: Still sad about this

        Fortunately for new entrants, their motto appears to be 'First In, First Out'.

        1. hittitezombie

          Re: Still sad about this

          IBM cannot look stuffy and old, over 50? You are history.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    I loved RedHat version 9.0.

    I've been on Fedora since FC5.....still on F40.

    How long, I wonder, till I need to look elsewhere?

    1. man_iii

      Re: Elsewhere?

      I've already switched out Fedora and CentOS for all openSuse Leap 15.5 seems stable now. YMMV.

  3. Claverhouse Silver badge

    The Grand Consultants

    McKinsey, like say, the Rand Corporation, appears to be one of those companies, much respected, mysterious to most people, whose recommendations are like little Bonsai Upas Trees.

    1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: The Grand Consultants

      [Author here]

      > Bonsai Upas Trees

      I confess I had to look that up.

      It's a poisonous tree and one source of arrow poison.

      I submit McKinsey is no bonsai: it's a hulking giant that somehow manages to keep itself mostly hidden, possibly by lurking in the dense forest of government procurement, and covered in the creeper vines of bureaucrats and "special advisors" and "management consultants".

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RHEL Vista?

    Sounds like they missed the opportunity to sink money in the Blockchain hype and are doubling down on "everything AI".

    A lot of the divested products are workhorses - no longer flashy, or bringing new clients, but used widely enough so that they need updates. I assume that for many of them, the investment is funding 2-5 people to pay attention to vulnerabilities, mailing lists, and integrate pull requests. I also assume that the monthly cost for an OSS developer is less than that of a McK consultant, so they have to make up the difference with higher numbers.

    On the plus side, I'm sure the proposal slides looked sleek.

  5. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

    It's IBM. Every decision results in fewer people for the past decade or so...

  6. David Newall

    Big purple


  7. containerizer

    Most of this is .. actually quite sensible

    Don't want to be the "nothing to see here" guy, and layoffs are never good. But some of this actually makes sense.

    RH have a long history in maintaining their own builds of things, for example the JDK or Spring, where they add little in the way of extra capability. This made sense back in the days of yonder where community projects tended to be less concerned with LTS builds. RH added value by maintaining such builds.

    OSS projects seem, in my perception, to have become much more mature of late, often maintaining their own LTS builds (corporate sponsorship plays its role here). Inevitably, rolling one's own build therefore accomplishes less.

    I think it was a couple of years ago that RH announced that the Temurin JDK build would be fully supported on Openshift, for example. There's a win-win thing here; RH backs, and presumably helps fund, a community-led build, so they don't need to have a separate team themselves. The community gets the sponsorship.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Looks a bit like the boneheaded management decisions on CentOS a couple of years ago really did kill off RHEL future growth prospects? Or maybe this is completely unrelated...

    Oh well, in any case time to cut R&D to the bone and milk the existing customer base for a decade or two in the finest Big Blue tradition

  9. Reiki Shangle

    William Hill Consulting?

    Did they really retain McKinsey & Company, or did they actually bring William Hill on-board?

    Personally I don’t rate the odds on the gambles being taken here and elsewhere. Risky strategies based on unverifiable incantations.

    Whatever next? The Nostradamus LLM?

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