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In the week after its astounding deletion of Australian pension fund UniSuper's entire account, you might think Google Cloud would be on its very best behavior. Nope. At 15:22 last Thursday, US Pacific Time, Google Cloud ran "maintenance automation intended to shutdown an unused network control component in a single location …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Good job Google Accounting department

    Keep outsourcing to less expensive locations, I'm sure everything will be just fine.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    And the advantages of relying on the cloud were supposed to be... What, exactly,?

    1. John Robson Silver badge

      Cost of scaling, and indeed cost of hardware/ops.

      What do you mean "reliable, fast, cheap: pick two (at most)"?

      1. bazza Silver badge

        It's only a cost saving for scaling, if your workload does indeed scale back down pretty quickly.

        If it scales up and stays there, you're pretty soon going to start feeling the pain!

      2. Snowy Silver badge
        Joke

        The way it is going it is more pick one.

      3. ExpatZ

        Yeah, that's not a thing, it ALWAYS ends up costing more.

        Been down that dead end road with multiple companies over the years.

    2. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge

      you can blame someone else when it goes titsup?

      1. unimaginative
        Devil

        I think this is spot on. Its CYA for the CTO. Outsourcing the blame.

    3. Alumoi Silver badge

      Plausible deniability. Duh!

  3. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    Good old fat fingers Friday

    I see nothing has changed in the past 10 years. Google is still making highly technical configuration changes on Friday before everyone goes home.

    The funny thing is that some companies use the cloud so that they can bring up a canary instance, apply changes, and see if it's still alive enough to pass basic tests. It's a cheap way to borrow $$$$$$ of hardware for just a few minutes for testing.

    1. doublerot13

      Re: Good old fat fingers Friday

      > Google is still making highly technical configuration changes on Friday before everyone goes home.

      Jeez, yeah, this used to drive me nuts when I was still a dev. Let's release critical changes when everyone in our location is scattering for the weekend (especially when they know a release is happening), the rest of the world has already gone home, and at least 50% of people will soon be drunk...

      1. Mike007 Silver badge

        Re: Good old fat fingers Friday

        I will admit that I have gotten to the end of the week and "sod it, it works, deploying and going home" is sometimes a very tempting option... (For a non-production system this is a great way to clear your mental plate for the weekend)

    2. xyz Silver badge

      Re: Good old fat fingers Friday

      Any full no... Don't touch jack post midday on a Friday. It is gospel.

  4. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Well it's certainly secure...

    so much so that even you can't get to your data some of the time.

  5. Howard Sway Silver badge
    Mushroom

    intended to shutdown an unused network control component

    Ah, the old classic! Nothing uses this any more, we can just shut it down and bin it ................ Shit! everything just broke!

    1. The Dark Side Of The Mind (TDSOTM)
      Joke

      Re: intended to shutdown an unused network control component

      This reminds me of the immortal words of Yoggi Berra (to Boo Boo): "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."

      1. rwessman

        Not quite

        Er, that was “Yogi Berra” (the human) who said that. ‘Yogi Bear” and Boo Boo were cartoon characters.

    2. Cris E

      Re: intended to shutdown an unused network control component

      "Are you sure no one is using this?"

      "Only one way to find out, here we go."

      "No, there really are other wa-." Sigh.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: intended to shutdown an unused network control component

        Big comms centre. In the corner is (still) a comms cabinet roped off containing a handful of 9600 v29 modems.

        Big stern notice attached to the rope barrier advising that 'under no circumstances must the rack be touched' by facilities management

        Yes, they could save a few pennies by switching off the cabinet to see if anyone noticed... but I don't think they would make it out of the building!

      2. depereo

        Re: intended to shutdown an unused network control component

        Good old scream test. More reliable than a whole datacenter of prometheus...es.

      3. Ken Shabby Silver badge
        Alert

        Re: intended to shutdown an unused network control component

        To me that makes sense in someway

  6. Bebu
    Windows

    Who are we not at home to, Baldrick?

    We are not at home to Mr Cock-up, sir.

  7. Mr Fix.

    Google has been in the game long enough to know about "Read-Only Fridays".

    1. Cris E

      Some days Too Big To Fail is also Too Big To Succeed. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've done a ton of stuff on Friday because not everything fits in the better days of the week. You may as well lambast them for having bugs in deployment code, which is both the obvious goal and unavoidable. You do your best to mitigate and then roll the dice.

  8. MachDiamond Silver badge

    If you have to outsource

    .... you either better have a really good backup and go-to-carp plans or be prepared to suffer the consequences.

    I've seen companies have business plans that require staff to work 50 hours/week and a vast amount of what they do is outsourced while trying to represent themselves as a traditional company. I discovered this at interview and through talking to other employees. Needless to say (I hope), I didn't take the application any further. I can work overtime when there's a rational need, but not 10 hours per day 5 days a week or 8/day and 6 days a week. There would be nothing left in the tank for those last minute marathons to get something done. What all of that tells me is that the company plan isn't viable. I don't have a problem with a company using a cloud service as part of their backup plan, but when that outside company becomes a critical component of operations, that's where it becomes a big problem. They have no control over any plans that outside company might have for changes or a discontinuation with little notice. An outage could also be a company killer.

  9. IGnatius T Foobar !

    The Clown

    The Clown was supposed to reduce costs -- it didn't. The Clown was supposed to reduce headcount -- it didn't. The Clown was supposed to reduce complexity -- it didn't. The Clown was supposed to get you off the IT treadmill -- it didn't.

    Why are these customers paying to rent someone else's computer for, exactly?

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: The Clown

      Nailed it.

      The entire I.T. industry has become one giant Rube Goldberg grift machine.

  10. ExpatZ

    Yeah, this is one of the many myriad reasons why putting your entire critical infrastructure onto a cloud that you don't have full control over is a fools move.

    Front ends, non critical edge use, sure thing, great applications for public cloud.

    Your main infrastructure? Might as well just hire all your staff straight from Uni and cross your fingers that they never have to deal with things experienced admins have already learned from.

    Which is what it appears everyone is basically doing these days, crossing their fingers that these public cloud services have hired competence and integrity.

    Because when you do this that is all you can do: hope.

    And hope is not a viable computing strategy.

  11. Phil Kingston

    Fair play to them for at least explaining it in a way even a CIO could understand

    https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/infrastructure/details-of-google-cloud-gcve-incident

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