back to article Billions on the line for Google as web search monopoly trial nears end

Both the US government and Google will today present their closing arguments in the search engine monopoly case from September. The antitrust lawsuit concerns Google's supremacy in the world of web search engines, which the government argues only exists thanks to anticompetitive practices. By paying electronics vendors and …

  1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

    Today ... yesterday

    Originally this was discussed: "If McDonald’s were run like a software company, one out of every hundred Big Macs would give you food poisoning, and the response would be; We're sorry, here’s a coupon for two more." - Mark Minasi

    He's termed as "one of the world's leading Windows authorities" and he probably made this statement originally when Microsoft was competing only with Apple PC's but these days the software environment has devolved so much that his quote covers software (and AI) everywhere. So often we see code created with problems (not errors) appearing. Human programmer intelligence works to create an event, and then when we see user problems we have to rework it to try and fix the problems to make happy users. AI doesn't seem to work that way, it creates an event and if you don't like it then you are the problem.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Today ... yesterday

      And that has to do with this article how?

    2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Today ... yesterday

      Whats wrong w/ americans inventing titles for themselves.

  2. Fred Daggy Silver badge

    Split 'em up, all of them.

    (Anakin voice) Split 'em up, Split them all up. Until they're independent. And not just the Microsoft, but the Google and the Meta too! They're like vicious in-bred, money printing, privacy ignoring animals. I hate them!

    Google: Search, Advertising, Browser, Cloud and Productivity ... and Other

    Microsoft: As above, plus Games and perhaps Database and Other

    Meta: As above (where they have a product) and Messaging

    Oracle: Database division and legal division should be separated. Java should be out.

    (Now, where's a sand icon?)

  3. xyz Silver badge

    Did a comparison of search engines a few weeks back...

    'cos I'm impossible to find because search engines think my surname is a typo... End result, they're all shit at finding me but Google less so than the others... Rats, back to getting my privates valued.

    Oh... Hotbot is still a thing!!

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Did a comparison of search engines a few weeks back...

      Use Startpage.

      You're welcome.

  4. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    When will people learn that Google search is a poor just like advertising especially google adwords in all forms is a scam.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    [Apple] called Android "a massive tracking device."

    While I agree with that statement anyone that thinks iOS isn't also a massive tracking device hasn't poked around enough.

    I'll give you just two examples...

    #1: Ask yourself why iMessages are stored on your iPhone and cannot be deleted for 30 days.

    Sure, you can delete the messages from the user being able to recover them but they still remain.

    You can only delete them after 30 days have past and then only the messages belonging to the users contact that sent a new iMessage.

    #2: Connect your iPhone to a Macbook or Linux machine running iMobiledevice library so you can see logs in real time and grep the logs for "spy scan" and tell me what you see.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    It's how dominance is bought.

    That some crazy bribes,,, I want to go start a semi fake Android company just to have goog pay me to put its search engine on,,, the one phone I will produce before closing shop and retiring on that one goog payment.

    Hmmm is that even a crime?

  7. Dinanziame Silver badge

    I recall that Firefox changed the default from Google to Yahoo at some point, no doubt against suitable compensation; but they changed back after a couple of years "because it was worse for users". Nothing said about the sums involved of course.

    I wonder what Apple will do if Google can't pay them anymore to be the default. They could probably get some money from Microsoft to set Bing as default, but probably not nearly as much, since Microsoft knows they have no real competitor that can bid billions, and a lot of users will change right back to Google anyway. Would Apple still keep Google as default, but without the billions payment?

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