Musk schmoozes Chinese premier as Tesla Full Self-Driving remains parked Tesla boss Elon Musk met with Chinese Premier Li Qiang in Beijing to discuss electric vehicles and self-driving cars. China Daily quoted Li as describing Tesla's development in China as "a successful example of trade cooperation between Beijing and Washington." In response, Musk said "thanks to the hard work and wisdom of the …
Did Xitler make sure to buy the official CCP chapstick before kissing so much ass of party leaders?
I really don't understand why companies do business in China. You know they're going to steal anything of any potential value of yours and give it to a company co-owned by the government. Then they'll subsidize the everliving fuck out of the locally made competitor leaving you with your schlong in one hand and a bunch of product you can't sell in the other. At best you have maybe 2-3 years before a competitor can be bootstrapped and undercutting you. Unless you are moving absolutely massive amounts of product, I don't see how it can possibly make up for the investment in infrastructure. One more reason I would probably make for a bad C-Suite exec, I like to think beyond just the next quarter. Then again, I don't have yacht payments to make, so...
"Huawei has been ripping off Apple for years."
They're paying homage to Apple, not ripping them off. /sarc
Everybody is reverse engineering everybody else's stuff. I've done some consulting for a company that takes cars apart to see how their customer's competition was doing things. It's not always about copying things outright. Sometimes seeing a few more ways of accomplishing the same thing gives a bunch of insight that's much cheaper than hiring 10-12 more engineers full time so a design group can brainstorm ideas.
That's already happening. Tesla is only 7.5% of the market. Far behind BYD's 33%. But haven't we lost count of Muskovite's blunders already?
By the way, one positive result of his visit is that all restrictions have now been lifted on Tesla vehicles entering special areas. So FSD is just... around the corner so to speak.
"I really don't understand why companies do business in China. "
A pro-business government and complete supply chains. Lots of electronic parts aren't made in the US anymore so they have to be imported from China mostly. China bought the fundamental patents for NdFeB magnets and kept improving them (and patenting the new version). In fact, China/Chinese companies have used predatory tactics to put magnet makers of all types all over the world out of business and then buy out the BK'd firm's machinery and ship it back to China (General Magnetics and (I think) Hitachi in Edmore Michigan.) You'd be amazed at how many products have magnets in them. It's like the when the Allies were bombing ball bearing factories controlled by Germany in WWII. It's those very basic bits and pieces that everybody uses that make such good trade targets. Once there very few metal alloys being made (only the ones for the biggest industries), a display is an import and even GD resistors are imported, it gets to the point where a company has better pricing, better stock and faster shipping for the majority of their BOM in China so they might as well partner up with a domestic firm and try to do a better job on the grammar being used in the instruction manual.
Is my personal choice, if available. They can block it by any reason, for expl. in Venezuela blocked Adobe Photoshop, Huawei mobile GMS, in Russia almost all tech including Apple, etc.
No thanks, to risky and the stance "You will pay, & don't have anything, but you will be happy" is above any reason at all. No sanctions proof tech & software, are not my choice, especially for a big $ EV car.
I'm a bit more restrained - it's more no to spyware unless it serves a purpose and I can contain attempted abuse. That's why I am glad that Serif made the Affinity software, and I hope their purchase by Canva keeps that model going. All my software is monitored, and when I saw how Adobe abused its privilege of my money and my resources I was on a hunt for a replacement.
And no, I don't use Microsoft products or Google either. I have replacements that don't export all the data they can grab from my systems.
Xitler was resoundingly rejected by the Supreme Court in his bid to get out from under the thumb of his Twitter Sitter. I think most here, aside from our 5th String Vatnik Eel (based on downvoting patterns, they seem to have been demoted), in saying to Xitler: Womp womp!
https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-sec-twitter-supreme-court-c04f033c5e73bad92b4c2ff36de795f2
I wish I could disagree with that, but we basically already know that Thomas and Scalia will find some kind of tortured reasoning to support giving Trump a pass, and the other conservatives seemed to be quite intent on ignoring the central issue of the case and trying to make it about something else entirely. As someone put it, they may as well move the SCOTUS chambers to the RNC HQ the way several of them act lately.
"According to reports, Musk would very much like China to give the local green light to Full Self-Driving (FSD). The autonomous driving mode is already available in the US, but Chinese road users have thus far been spared the prospect."
Oh, have Tesla developed Full Self Driving capability? When did that happen?
I know they've been marketing their Level 2 product Autopilot as such, but it's very far from true real-world full self-driving capability and, indeed, is demonstrably inferior to the Level 2 products of competing manufacturers. So far as I know, the rest is all Musky hype -- and these days we all know what that's worth.
I was watching a Youtube video the other day. Driver was very excited about the new, updated FSD software. And it was quite impressive for what it is, as opposed to what is implied in the marketing. But the funny bit was when it reached the destination, a car park/parking lot. The car came to a halt in the middle of it. The driver commented something about successfully reaching the destination and the car started moving again. He said something along the lines of "oh, it's driving again, it must see the 'road' ahead and just keep going.". He just accepted the fact the car had reached it's destination, stopped and then suddenly "decided" to start moving again, like that was entirely normal and expected behaviour!
If it had realised it was in a parking area and chose to move into a parking bay, well, that might be understandable, but it drove past 3 or 4 empty bays before the driver decided he'd batter take manual control and stop it. He was clearly a fanboi!
Do a search for reports how well a Tesla self-parks versus other brands. It still doesn't seem to manage something that other, allegedly "less advanced" car manufacturers solved now almost a decade ago.
The main 'advanced' feature that Tesla now has is how Musk abuses social media and misinformation to pump the stock price. The 'bulletproof' Cybertruck (read: extra weight wasting energy, and no, it isn't) can't even handle a car wash, let alone offroad conditions. Again, sold mainly on the basis of a load of BS.
If I had that sort of money I'd hunt down a refitted DeLorean (there seem to be quite a few people who do this as a hobby) and buy one of those - it will even be easier to get spare parts for it..
The stock goes wild when Elon says he is partnering up with a Chinese Social Media company on FSD.
I'm also very curious about this "approval" to deploy killer machines in the middle kingdom. For all we know, the conditions might be nearly impossible for what the system can do right now....... But they didn't say "no".
This pair of pandas have a bit of catching up to do to equal Musk's 9 or 10 offspring
Wonder if they decided to go at it as a welcome...
https://english.news.cn/20240428/ffc0d8e39a954077800628bc0201bee1/c.html
Elon the Magnificent wants to use spare CPU cycles in all his Muskmobile to provide an AWS like environment.
https://insideevs.com/news/717206/tesla-distributed-datacenter-on-wheels/
It raises the question about who actually owns the computer on wheels that is called a Tesla...
I think that this is another of his 'cool ideas' to pump the stock before he bails.
From where do the Tesla software updates for the vehicles in the PRC originate?
I am thinking that they are potentially an excellent vehicle (sic) for espionage enabled with a single "update."
(With a Starlink phone home capability exfiltration would be difficult to detect or prevent.)
I have to wonder why the CCP leadership bother giving Musk the time of day as I cannot see what is in it for them. Its not as though they need more fawning sychophants and if its not actually butt he is kissing I am sure Ms Daniels does it better. :)
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