back to article Protest group says Google has fired more staff over sit-ins opposing work for Israel

After firing 28 people for protesting its cloud deal with Israel by occupying its offices, Google reportedly spent the weekend letting go of more staff to bring the number of employees let go over the incident to an even 50. The latest count comes from No Tech for Apartheid (NTFA), a protest group organized to call attention …

  1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    shrug

    If somebody doesn't want to wortk for somebody, they don't have to. Slavery was abolished in the US 150+ years ago.

    1. cornetman Silver badge

      Re: shrug

      Indeed. If you don't like your company's customers, then go elsewhere. That's about all you can realistically do if you have objections.

      It is weird that they would call themselves "No Tech for Apartheid" since Israel isn't an apartheid state. Jews have a special relationship with Israel as a country, but my understanding is that there are many people working and living there that are not Jewish and have pretty much the same opportunities that the "natives" have.

      1. VicMortimer Silver badge
        1. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

          Re: shrug

          It's not quit that simple, is it?

          Unless you were born yesterday.

          1. Cliffwilliams44 Silver badge

            Re: shrug

            He wasn't born yesterday; it's just his brain is infected with the "woke mind virus!"

        2. Dr Kerfuffle

          Re: shrug

          Well I've been there several times and it definitely ain't an apartheid country! That idea was created by Soviet propagandists in the 1970's. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now.

          And if they were committing 'genocide' how comes that most of the population are still alive? Genocide means killing an entire population, which definitely isn't the case here. If Israel had wanted to commit genocide they could have done it 6 months ago.

          Anyway, this is a forum for discussing IT issues, not a propaganda platform

          1. richdin

            Re: shrug

            Out of 100,000 Arab residents left in Gaza in 1948 - ONLY 2,000,000 were there in 2024. Where EXACTLY is the ethnic cleansing / genocide? But don't confuse me with facts.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              > ONLY 2,000,000 were there

              and supposedly much healthier than in any other Arabic country.

          2. ragnar

            Re: shrug

            > "Genocide means killing an entire population"

            No it doesn't. It has a precise definition in international law. By *your* definition, even the holocaust would not qualify as a genocide, since large numbers of Jews survived.

            You may read the UN's legal analysis of why Israel's current actions meet the legal definition of genocide here:

            https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ahrc5573-report-special-rapporteur-situation-human-rights-palestinian

            It's quite accessible and goes through each item in the legal definition carefully. Not that you'll care, since it's obvious you come with predetermined ideas and a strong pro-Israel bias.

            > "it definitely ain't an apartheid country"

            Again, apartheid has a legal definition. You may read a comprehensive legal analysis of why Israel is an apartheid state here:

            https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

            It would be wise to not comment about matters where you appear to lack the requisite understanding of what's happening on the ground, or the definitions of terms you throw around. Doubly-so, when you're trying to play the wise old owl.

        3. SundogUK Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: shrug

          A totally unbiased collection of references, that.

        4. Casca Silver badge

          Re: shrug

          Lets forget what hamas has been doing then...

        5. Plest Silver badge

          Re: shrug

          Love how some people scream about having a voice, scream about everyone must be open minded and listen to them and yet when some of us say that we don't agree then we're instanlty shut down and told we're thinking and saying the wrong things.

          I freely support your right to say whatever you like in public, this isn't a public space it's a private forum but all the same you can have your say. All I ask is that you extend the same courtesy to me and listen when i say that I think you're a brainwashed, woke SJW who needs to go do more reading than simply making a note of whatever TikTok influencer's name you picked this atrocious rubbish up from.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        One of your asumptions is wrong

        > "No Tech for Apartheid" since Israel isn't an apartheid state

        When you come across what you think is an inconsistency, consider revisiting your premises and taking better informed alternate opinions. Is the opinion of Tamir Pardo, who headed the Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from 2011 to 2016 worth considering?

        Full article in The Guardian: Israel imposing apartheid on Palestinians, says former Mossad chief.

        A former head of the Mossad intelligence agency has said Israel is imposing a form of apartheid on the Palestinians, joining a growing number of prominent Israelis to compare the occupation of the West Bank to South Africa’s defunct system of racial oppression.

        But Tamir Pardo’s views will have added impact because of the high regard for Mossad in Israel and because they come at a time when far-right members of Israel’s government are moving to kill off any prospect of an independent Palestinian state.

        Pardo told the Associated Press that Israel’s mechanisms for controlling the Palestinians, from restrictions on movement to placing them under military law while Jewish settlers in the occupied territories are governed by civilian courts, matched the old South Africa.

        “There is an apartheid state here,” he said. “In a territory where two people are judged under two legal systems, that is an apartheid state.

        [...]

        1. cornetman Silver badge

          Re: One of your asumptions is wrong

          The occupation of the West Bank was a big mistake by the Israelis that's for sure.

          But it is not Israel.

          Countries can do good things and bad at the same time. Who knew?

        2. Cliffwilliams44 Silver badge

          Re: One of your asumptions is wrong

          That is not the definition of apartheid.

          Consider that the reason two people are judged differently is that one of those two people are terrorists or terrorist supporters.

          Here in the U.S. we have two people judged under two legal systems.

          Those on the left who protest, and riot, are judged sympathetically and leniently. Those on the right are punished severely. Politicians on the Left that are obviously corrupt, that have used their positions in government to enrich themselves are protected by the legal system. Those on the right, who attempt to do something about this rampant corruption are targeted by the legal system.

          Is the U.S. an apartheid country?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            "6th of Jan was just a happy fellows party"

            Oh look, another "this is a witch hunt" guy. LOL.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: "6th of Jan was just a happy fellows party"

              When they capitalized "the Left", it became obvious they may be trapped in their own echo chamber.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: One of your asumptions is wrong

            Ssshhhh!! You're not supposed to say that!!

          3. This post has been deleted by its author

      3. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: shrug

        I lived and worked in Israel for 3 years, I worked with both Jews and Arabs on the same job, this is something you will never hear spoken about in the Mainstream Media.

        Anyone that says that Israel is apartheid or similar has obviously never been or worked there.

        Anyone supporting these Google employees is merely proving to the rest of us how utterly uneducated they are.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: shrug

          > "Anyone that says that Israel is apartheid or similar has obviously never been or worked there."

          So you're saying that Tamir Pardo who headed the Mossad, from 2011 to 2016 has "obviously never been or worked there". Looks like there is a fault in your reasoning.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            > So you're saying that Tamir Pardo

            What is your proposal?

            Tamir's position clearly shows Israel is a democratic country, where changes are possible, unless being constantly attacked by terrorists. How would YOU act in such conditions?

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              King David Hotel

              For a start, I would not start my own country in a place where people have had their own country for centuries. Especially if that means getting rid of them, one way or another. Especially through terrorism (irgun, stern, etc... blowing up hotels). And then calling others terrorists.

              Some people have other ideas apparently. And some people even support these people who have other ideas.

              Future generations of Israelis will have a hard time bearing that heritage.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: King David Hotel

                The people of Judah were there millennia before. This IS their historic homeland.

                Now the fact that in the intervening 2000 years they were scattered around the world and that most modern Jewish people have far more Eastern European DNA in them than Middle Eastern is another matter.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: King David Hotel

                  Yeah, let's all return to the borders in use under the Flavian dynasty. Let's give back the whole Mediterranean to Italy for instance.

                  Then maybe the Palestinians could also argue, why not before Abraham... When his tribe had not reached Canaan yet.

                  1. Cliffwilliams44 Silver badge

                    Re: King David Hotel

                    The Palestinians are not native to that land either. The majority of them migrated into that land during the Muslim conquests starting in the 7th century.

                    1. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: King David Hotel

                      This is rubbish. Please support with some solid scientific paper or withdraw.

                      PS. Not all Muslims come from the Arabia peninsula. Conversion was a thing.

                      1. SundogUK Silver badge

                        Re: King David Hotel

                        Usually at the point of a sword.

                        1. Anonymous Coward
                          Anonymous Coward

                          Torquemada?

                          If true, they must have taken it from the Spanish Inquisition.

                          Thankfully, it's mostly not true. After the initial conquest, many Muslim caliphates were islands of tolerance. Because... "People of The Book". See, Islam is the third religion rooted in the Torah. Jesus is a prophet, the Tomb of John the Baptist receives 100s of Muslim every day.

                          - The Granada caliphate

                          - Omayyad Caliphate

                          - Emirate of Cordoba

                          - Abbasid caliphate (Harun al-Rashid)

                          During the Ottoman domination (eg. in the Balkans) conversion was mostly a way to climb up the social ladder or pay less taxes. Non-Muslims constituted the vast majority of the population of the empire. With zero drama, and freedom to worship. Churches were built by the Ottoman authorities themselves. Istanbul still has its Jewish Synagogue where you will hear "Ladino" (akin to Spanish).

                          So, bad luck. But yeah, I'm supposed to be the ignorant one with zero clue about the history of the region and who doesn't open history books. But what do I know!?

                          1. Khaptain Silver badge

                            Re: Torquemada?

                            We know that you know how to surf Wikipedia, after the fact..

              2. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                Re: King David Hotel

                "For a start, I would not start my own country in a place where people have had their own country for centuries."

                Such as who? I hope you're not referring to the State of Palestine.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: King David Hotel

                  That's irrelevant. Jews and Arabs were living in harmony and then Europeans landed and claimed the land. By force. In most books, that called colonization. End of story.

                  1. Casca Silver badge

                    Re: King David Hotel

                    LMAO, sure

                  2. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: King David Hotel

                    Wasn't it the Ottomans who occupied that area for the largest % of the previous 2000 years? Not sure the Ottomans are 'European'. Also from what I remember of history the Ottomans were reasonably strong on keeping the various factions inline and supressing opposition and ensuring that everyone lived together in some sort of peace.

                    1. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: King David Hotel

                      Ottomans are relative newcomers. Remember the fall of Byzantium is 1453.

                      Their domination on the Levant took another century - till the end of Suleiman the Magnificent reign (1566).

                      Before that that area was under the sway of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt and even, briefly, the Seljuk sultans.

                      So, it's not exactly 2000 years. Less than a quarter of that.

                  3. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                    Re: King David Hotel

                    "That's irrelevant. Jews and Arabs were living in harmony and then Europeans landed and claimed the land. By force. In most books, that called colonization. End of story."

                    End of your story, yes. Call the nurse; your meds need refilling.

                  4. J.G.Harston Silver badge

                    Re: King David Hotel

                    They *BOUGHT* the land, freely, legally and above board.

                    1. Anonymous Coward
                      Anonymous Coward

                      Re: King David Hotel

                      1 - When I buy a place in a foreign country, that does not mean I can make it my own country.

                      2 - They "bought" the land nobody wanted to stay in because of things like the Deir Yassin massacre... how strange.

                      3 - Why refugees are not allowed to come and buy it back?

                      4 - Why are you automatically an Israeli citizen if you can prove some Jewish ancestry? Isn't that a willful replacement strategy?

                      Don't try to justify the land grab. It's impossible.

              3. Khaptain Silver badge

                Re: King David Hotel

                You truly need to read a history book. That is the perfect example of utter ignorance on your behalf..

              4. Casca Silver badge

                Re: King David Hotel

                Wow, you really dont know shit about the history in that part of the planet do you?

        2. ragnar

          Re: shrug

          Here is a comprehensive legal analysis for why Israel meets the definition of an apartheid state:

          https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

          You obviously didn't speak too closely with your Palestinian co-workers, or you would have discovered many points of direct and indirect discrimination. Here is a brief list:

          https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-palestinian-citizens-of-israel

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: shrug

          I support the ones who quietly and peacefully voiced their concerns upward, without damaging anything or blocking paths, that ended up being terminated. I believe every employee should have the right to communicate internally the values they believe the company should hold without reprisal. We're all adults here, even shareholders. There's no reason we can't have that conversation.

          To your anecdote, I knew a very lovely Israeli man in college who left and came to the US with his family due to growing problems with his wife (and by extension his children) having Palestinian heritage. This isn't the place for graphic depictions, but in short: one sanctioned police stop too far uprooted his family.

      4. alain williams Silver badge

        Re: shrug

        Israel isn't an apartheid state

        Many have long said that Israel is an apartheid state:

        2007: Occupied Gaza like apartheid South Africa, says UN report

        +972 magazine pages on apartheid +972 Magazine is an independent magazine run by a group of Palestinian and Israeli journalists.

        Jimmy Carter's book: Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid

        Amnesty International

        Jan 2021: A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid B’Tselem – The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

        Nov 2022: Understanding Apartheid Jewish Currents is an American progressive Jewish quarterly magazine and news site

        Wikipedia: Israel and apartheid

        The media (journalists) are Israeli targets and used to push the Israeli message:

        Israel’s War on Journalists

        RSF files complaint with ICC for war crimes against journalists in Palestine and Israel

        Israeli military accused of targeting journalists and their families in Gaza

        ‘Journalists see their role as helping to win’: how Israeli TV is covering Gaza war

        How Israeli journalists carry out PR for the army

        Journalism out, hasbara in: How Israeli TV news joined the Gaza war effort

        Explainers: Parallel histories (resources for schools) Jewish currents

        Please read the above references, you might learn something. You might not agree but please do not close your mind to other views.

        I know that this will be downvoted by those who believe that Israel who can do no wrong. Yes: I am critical of the Israeli government, this is not antisemitism but will be portrayed as such.

        I have great sympathies for those innocents who are caught between two terrorist organisations: Hamas and the Israeli government.

      5. anothercynic Silver badge

        Re: shrug

        Sorry to have to say this, but as someone who lived under (and by virtue of skin colour benefitted from) Apartheid (i.e. the South African original edition) and recognises the signs and general behaviours of apartheid, Israel most definitely *is* enforcing a form of apartheid. If you treat one specific segment of society with harsh rules that only apply to them, that by definition is apartheid. This has been recognised and known for years, if not several decades.

        That is however not to say that by describing Israel as an apartheid state you are anti-semitic, despite rumblings of some organisations trying to persuade people that that is so. Just like in the Apartheid years in South Africa, there are members of the class enforcing said flavour of apartheid who understand and see this as wrong and who are under a lot of pressure and are treated with disdain for their views. When you have Holocaust survivors and their relatives condemning what is happening in West Bank and especially in Gaza (even before 7 October, which was an absolute travesty), you should take note and consider whether you're still doing the right thing. It appears that the powers that be in the Knesset are ignoring that. And the West is just as complicit by not calling it out.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: shrug

      Did you read the article? Googlers who did not participate in the sit-in but associated with the sit-in protestors were fired.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: shrug

        In my organisation yesterday I felt it was in particular poor taste for our Culture Team to be Slapping a Star of David so prominently on the ‘Celebrate Passover’ comms sent out.

        Considering what Passover celebrates .. and the insensitivity of on Openly Jewish symbol like that whereas just leaving the feast table simple stock photo may have been a lot more appropriate - at this time.

    3. low_resolution_foxxes

      Re: shrug

      The protestor quoted (Zelda) is perhaps what you'd expect. In their words "I'm a first-generation, non-binary Latinx software engineer. They/them."

      I'm all for their right to protest. But unfortunately when you protest against major contracts for your employer you put them in a difficult position and make a nuisance of yourself. You literally put them in the position of asking if it's worth keeping you.

      I see no issues providing civilian support, the military side is debatable, I guess it all boils down to whether these are 'professional protestors' that have a specific point, or if they are simply blindly anti-Israel, which is a bad look

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: shrug

        " I guess it all boils down to whether these are 'professional protestors' that have a specific point, or if they are simply blindly anti-Israel"

        The problem is that they are usually the same thing. Zelda with their list of things that they are is a classic member of the hyper-entitled NPC generation. The videos from the Columbia uni protests show this clearly. Its like the scene from Blazing Saddles!

        Leader with a loud hailer: "Repeat after me"

        Crowd: "Repeat after me"

        1. low_resolution_foxxes

          Re: shrug

          I've Googled (lol) a few of her other comments and I'm starting to think it's justified. It wasn't just a protest at a specific thing. It seems she objects to even the government using the Google cloud for any purpose. She organized a "die in" protest that physically blocked employees entering the building and blocked passing traffic (until they had to be arrested carrying banners that are essentially anti-Israel, rather than simply "I object quietly and passively against this specific action". Broadly claimed that any use was bad and protested even Google's presence at a local and general tech conference. It's not quiiet and peaceful protest when you prevent your colleagues from going to work. You're making a nuisance to others

          "Israel apartheid" and "liberate Palestine" banners are arguably drifting into bad territory.

  2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    If only these same people had morals about spying on people so google can sell fake medicine for example that probably has killed thousands or more every year.

  3. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

    What really sticks out for me here are the piss-poor workers' rights in the USA.

    UK is heading there too, it seems.

    1. SundogUK Silver badge

      You could be sacked for this behaviour in pretty much any country in the world.

      They:

      1. Damaged company property;

      2. Refused to work their contracted hours;

      3. Stopped other Google employees from doing their jobs.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It is called 'gross misconduct' and pretty much universally wins you an escorted, one-way trip off-site.

      1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

        AS opposed to the vilation of human rights as the core business practice of the parent company.

        American presidents and media used to cry about the communist spying programs and today...

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Violating the human rights of the fired employees or the people in Gaza?

    3. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

      "What really sticks out for me here are the piss-poor workers' rights in the USA."

      I agree in general, but this is a specific situation that would result in dismissal in most countries.

  4. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

    "...while present, they weren't participating in the protest"

    "One anonymous speaker, going by "Oreo," said that they, a Palestinian now-former Google employee with relatives in Gaza, only went into one of the protest sites to meet some of the participants of the sit-in. Afterward, Oreo claimed to have gone outside the building on public property to hold a sign in support of the protest."

    I didn't participate in the murder, your honour; I just went round to his house to meet him, and happened to be holding the gun when it went off and shot him. Thirteen times.

    Yeah you were a protester, no ifs or buts. And you got what was coming to you.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      They didn't protest on Google property. Protesting on public property is a fireable offence?

      1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

        It may well be. Depends on the protest, and the circumstances; eg during work hours, wearing a company t-shirt, actively encouraging others, causing an obstruction or hindering the company’s activities… any of these could get you fired.

        1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

          I guess since your exercising an opinion against the MULTIPLE protestors they should have the right to send you to jail.

    2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Wow are you defending big tech ?

      You can be sure they arent your friend in anyway, they wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire and they would never help you if you were homeless or down on your luck.

    3. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Wow have you considered moving to North Korea.

      No rights of any kind, and if you dare sneeze they shoot you twice in the back.

  5. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

    I don't particularly like my client. I don't agree with their political stance, and I don't get on with how they treat their employees as disposable.

    But it's my choice to continue working for them. I could choose to leave; but given that I don't, and I continue to bill them every month, I would consider it pretty arrogant to continue to take their money while knifing them in the back. My leverage is to stop working for them if I feel strongly enough.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Exactly this. We all have choices, they may not be very nice ones but democracy offers them to us. We can protest, we can complain, we refuse to work for a companies we dislike.

      Personally I swallow my conscience on most things when I go to work as I have bills to pay and a family to feed, people who love and trust me would prefer me to shut my mouth and bring home the green, so I do.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I think the sit-in protesters who protested on Google property did so because they wanted to both leave and bring the public's attention to Project Nimbus.

      There is the wrong perception here that they are arrogant and entitled, due to commenters' lack of imagination that unhappy employees who want to leave anyway might purposely try to get themselves fired to make a statement.

      But the other Googlers who merely associated with the sit-in protesters (their coworkers), likely didn't intend to get fired, or else they would have made it worth it by participating in the sit-in.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Project Nimbus is not new neither is the opposition

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/12/google-amazon-workers-condemn-project-nimbus-israeli-military-contract

        "that they are arrogant and entitled"

        There is no question that they are both and very much so. Busting in to a management office and scrawling on the whiteboard with a list of demands like a toddler having a temper tantrum is not a positive career move. I also have little doubt that the people fired would be quite happy doxxing those who disagree with them.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          They weren't expecting their actions to be a positive career move, because they wanted to leave anyway. You are fundamentally unable to understand their motivations, because you value money over ethics and can't imagine other people with a different value system.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Hmm... they seem very butt hurt that they got fired. I think you are failing to understand them. If they had actual ethics they would have left years ago when the project started. However now they have an opportunity to virtue signal and feed their narcissism. It is all preformative.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              The ones who weren't directly involved in the sit-in protest are butthurt, because it looks like they were fired for their political views. I don't see any evidence of the sit-in protesters being genuinely shocked. They may play up Google's firing to bring attention to Google's hypocrisy, but it's bizarre that you think they were hoping to work at Google in the long term if they think it's unethical.

              Being young, they might have been unaware of Israel-Palestine issues until recent events, and/or they became incensed by the genocide of Gazans, which started only recently.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                " became incensed by the genocide of Gazans, which started only recently."

                Depending who you ask it started sometime between 1948 and 1967. If you think this is something new that only started after the attacks on oct 7th you are not very well informed.

                Maybe these people are just stupid. Google has been doing unethical things for a long time and it has not been kept secret. These people seem to have very selective ethics and activities like spying and censoring the extreme far right ultra-MAGAs is double plus good and supported by them. Project Nimbus has been going on for 3+ years, the difference is that now raging antisemitism is mainstream and good so they can amplify their virtue signalling. It is all performative.

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  tl;dr

                  What a dystopian world we're living in:

                  - Ethnic cleansing of non-white people that used to fly under the radar for decades now brings about protests by brainwashed non-racist students <blaming Internet, the "MSM", and the the "Left">,

                  - Whereas, instead, perfectly peaceful and legitimate protests by folks wearing bison-horned fur headdress that happened to take place inside the Capitol building are mistaken for coup attempts,

                  - MAGA enlighted free-speech loving citizens are being unethically "spied on" by the likes of Google,

                  - Perfectly honest businessmen have to stand trials for allegedly "paying hush money" <witch hunt>,

                  Thank God we can still let off steam anonymously in El Reg's comment sections. Although nobody seems to care.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Hi Lord Elpus, how come you did not use words like "snowflake" or "SJW"? That sour rant seems a bit too soft.

              1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                I think you're confused.

                1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

                  Lord Elpuss youa re the one confused, big corporate america is not your friend.

                  They didnt pay for your schools, hospitals, fireys, police or anything... and yet you think Oprah, Trump or Pilchai are your friend...have they invited you over for a birthday party ?

                  1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                    I'm not American. I couldn't care less about Oprah, Trump or anybody else. And my schools, hospitals and emergency services are all paid for by taxes, meaning corporations did in fact largely pay for them.

                    As I said. You're confused.

                    1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

                      lord:

                      I'm not American.

                      cow:

                      Where did i say you were american ? In my original post i never mentioned anything remotely like that.

                      Lord: And my schools, hospitals and emergency services are all paid for by taxes, meaning corporations did in fact largely pay for them.

                      cow: Me too. but unfortunately in my country (AU) I can see a stupid trend of companies copying corporate america.

                      The fucking stupid ceo worship culture is everywhere here now...

                      Really pisses me off seeing american corporate speak everywhere, company culture, ceo approval, the gig economy which ruins AU for everyone.

                      1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                        ”Where did i say you were american ? In my original post i never mentioned anything remotely like that.“

                        You wrote this ”…and yet you think Oprah, Trump or Pilchai are your friend...have they invited you over for a birthday party ?“

                        Explain why you think I’d care two hoots about them if you didn’t think I was American. You know it, I know it and anybody else reading this knows it.

                        1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

                          We live in an inter-connected world there are no boundaries for many things. LIke i menioned a lot of american culture does get copied by others outside america. Ceos in AU for example see what happens in USA and they COPY it because they think they are winning.

                          1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

                            Nah. You got caught out making unfounded assumptions. Admit it and move on.

  6. Marty McFly Silver badge
    FAIL

    "Oreo"

    Guess what... When you go to work for a big company you no longer get to hide behind an anonymous on-line identity. You get to be responsible for your actions.

    Using a pseudonym to avoid accountability explains everything we need to know about why this person was sacked.

    1. Khaptain Silver badge

      Re: "Oreo"

      I wonder how many of these self entitled activists would head of into their parents companies and do the same thing.

    2. low_resolution_foxxes

      Re: "Oreo"

      Oooooph. I read a bit deeper, it says something when the majority of protestors were wearing masks to avoid their employer IDing them. Some of the banners may have good intentions, but some of them accuse Google of genocide (it is never a good thing to accuse your employer of genocide while earning $100,000+ pa....).

      https://nypost.com/2024/04/23/business/google-protest-group-says-over-50-staffers-were-fired-after-anti-israel-sit-ins/

      Sample banners: "no more genocide for profit" "GOOGLERS AGAINST GENOCIDE"

      "Some of the employees – many of whom covered their faces with masks while wearing traditional Arab headdress – brazenly barged into the offices of Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian in Sunnyvale and livestreamed the protest on Twitch. Others occupied the 10th floor of the company’s offices in Chelsea."

      "Last month, a Google software engineer was fired after he was filmed publicly berating one of the company’s Israel-based executives during a tech conference in Manhattan."

      Doesn't sound like they were quietly holding up signs in the car park does it? What kind of idiot livestreams themself barging into the CEOs office??!??!?

      edit: AHAHAHA - Here is a video (ok it is FOX, but it's just video footage of the actual protest) https://youtu.be/_RpmqzqQGG0?si=PQvKjT2oNZqXlCbo

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "Oreo"

        The whiteboard confirms my assessment of these being the hyper entitled types. "OUR DEMANDS"

        Address the health and safety crisis among google workers? I'm going to assume this is a mental health thing rather than a physical H&S issue.

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