back to article Hugely expanded Section 702 surveillance powers set for US Senate vote

On Thursday the US Senate is expected to reauthorize the contentious warrantless surveillance powers conferred by Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), and may even strengthen them with language that, according to US Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), "will force a huge range of companies and individuals to spy …

  1. IGotOut Silver badge

    So exactly the same reason....

    ...they banded Huawei in the security theatre.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So exactly the same reason....

      I have no idea why FISA has not being struck down as unconstitutional by the (Federal) Supreme Court already??

      Too busy dealing with right wing nonsense - inc asinine arguments about what amendments may actually mean over excessive gun ownership - and fucking women over on abortion rights.

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: So exactly the same reason....

        Since at least a third of the Roberts court is on record as being A-OK with the government having unlimited policing powers, and another third has not demonstrated much concern about it, there's essentially no chance they'd ever strike down any part of FISA.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm not sure the "force the cleaning lady to insert a USB drive into a server" is derivable from the other text in the article, but I'm no national security lawyer.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Read the bill. The new "custodian" inclusion is extremely broad.

  3. Yorick Hunt Silver badge
    Mushroom

    They got the acronym wrong.

    Instead of RISAA, it would be far more appropriate to call it STASI.

    1. Someone Else Silver badge

      Re: They got the acronym wrong.

      Please provide a bacronym for this...

      1. Yorick Hunt Silver badge

        Re: They got the acronym wrong.

        Save The American Security Industry

  4. heyrick Silver badge

    government's snooping powers

    Come on EU, wake up. We don't need to wait for Schrems III, just accept that American companies handling EU citizen's data is a complete and total nonstarter.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Palantir In The NHS???

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I rest my case!!

    1. deadlockvictim

      Re: Palantir In The NHS???

      From a US perspective, there a lot of foreigners in the UK (about 67 million of them, if Wikipedia is to be believed), so yes, it will simply be a matter of finding the baddies from amongst the goodies based on their medical histories. But that they have the compute power for that, so it shouldn't be a problem. Palantir will surely be able to help them as well since they are, em, good folk.

      1. heyrick Silver badge

        Re: Palantir In The NHS???

        The problem is, the definition of who is a goodie and who is a baddie changes depending on which way the wind blows. For instance, it seems as if a worrying number of Republicans like Putin (still)...which about seventy odd years ago would have been an abrupt career ender.

        1. NapTime ForTruth

          Re: Palantir In The NHS???

          There's no problem: everyone is potentially a baddie, so everyone is surveilled.

          For what it's worth, it has always been this way. The novel component is that everyone now continuously generates an unending supply of information to be used against them, and allows that information to be held indefinitely by third parties around the globe for future use.

          Soylent Green is people.

  6. Dan 55 Silver badge

    Bit late for that...

    "If large US companies who provide core services enabling data communications transmission, or storage – such as data centers, cloud, or managed security services – are suddenly compelled to assist with FISA surveillance, some of their customers will likely look to foreign competitors who they perceive will not similarly expose their or their customers' data to government requests," Miller added.

    So what about the CLOUD act that Big Tech lobbied for? That seems to be fine. Anyone would think they're just playing to the gallery about freedumbs but don't really mind.

  7. xyz123 Silver badge

    This wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it appears, but this law is entirely and completely for industrial espionage to make politicians rich.

    Basically congress members are allowed to DEMAND trade secrets to do business with the US. Secrets they are then able to use for their OWN businesses to pump the share price.

    Absolute complete corruption. Similar to the way to do business in China you have to pay bribes directly into Xi's pocket.

  8. Meeker Morgan

    Bipartisan support -- they unite against their common enemy ...

    ... the American people.

    The 4th amendment to the constitution has been a dead letter for a while, to beat the Taliban you know, but it keeps getting worse.

    1. Marty McFly Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Bipartisan support -- they unite against their common enemy ...

      As long as our rulers keep us divided, we will be easy to control and manipulate. Their biggest fear is the red team and blue team uniting to reject their tyranny.

      This has happened repeatedly in the history of civilization, and it would be the height of hubris to think it won't happen again. What will happen to society when the bread and circuses stop?

  9. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

    Zieg Heil, Mein Fuhrer! *goose salute* :(

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