back to article Intel throws chips on the table, Microsoft plays the Copilot card in wild bet on AI PCs

Intel has muddied the AI PC waters by sharing some of Microsoft's broad, non-vendor-specific requirements for running Copilot locally on Windows while insisting that such computers really do need Intel silicon at their heart. The PC industry is banking on the machine-learning hype bubble not bursting any time soon. Expensive …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "sluggish sales"

    What are they expecting ? Yes, there was a time when the next Intel CPU and Windows version was a must-have, because the result was obvious on screen. It was visibly faster, it performed better, everyone was happier.

    It's been at least a decade (or two) since that was true. Today, the least-performing phablet/laptop will allow you to YouTube/Tik Tok/Facebook/Xitter to your heart's content. When that satisfies the need of 90% of the population, and COVID has forced almost everyone to purchase current equipment, it means that nobody actually needs a new computer for the next six/ten years at least.

    So yeah, sales will be sluggish for the foreseeable future. Why can't you see that ?

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: "sluggish sales"

      Not to mention the ridiculous price increases of basic PC and laptops over the last year.

      A laptop I bought a year and a half ago is now almost double what it cost me then.

    2. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

      Re: "sluggish sales"

      Yup. I last did a full upgrade of my system's innards five years ago, and I just upgraded my CPU fairly cheaply to a three-year-old one that has basically doubled its performance. That should keep me going for at least another three years. I really see no need.

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: "sluggish sales"

        My current personal laptop is five years old, and I don't even see any need to upgrade. I intend to use it as-is until the components start failing.

        Pascal wrote "there was a time when the next Intel CPU and Windows version was a must-have", but frankly that time was never for me. Nothing I need to do for my personal household use (e.g. tax preparation, handling documents, banking), nor for entertainment, needs more resources than even a ten-year-old machine can easily provide; I only got this laptop when the old one started to randomly shut down due to overheating, and cleaning it out didn't help much.

        And as for my own research — well, there are certainly areas of CS that need a lot of resources, but there are also many that don't. And it turns out that even in the age of "AI" I can still write without needing an LLM to hold my hand.

    3. mike.dee

      Re: "sluggish sales"

      A sizable part of the population doesn't need now to have a general purpose personal computer, but it's happily using their smartphone. Few people, outside business necessities, are buying PCs.

      People buying a desktop or tower computer for home are almost all enthusiasts and gamers, the one that in the 1980s bought a ZX Spectrum or a Commodore 64: we were relatively few compared to the general markets, and even if there computer were sold in millions, they were used by a niche.

  2. Matt Collins

    Meh

    Solution looking for a problem?

    1. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

      Re: Meh

      Totally.

    2. NeilPost

      Re: Meh

      Will it make Alexa, Siri, Google or Supermarket Self-Checkouts and other software any less dumb as shit ??

      Doubt it.

  3. VicMortimer Silver badge
    Flame

    Kill it with fire

    Just a reminder on how to disable that nonsense: How to turn off Copilot in Windows 11 — keep it AI free

    1. ldo

      This Is Why They Say ...

      ... Windows is a great OS — if your time is worth nothing.

    2. ITMA Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Kill it with fire

      Microsoft, being well Microsoft, will just wait a little while then force it on anyway.

      I've uninstalled it from five of my machines and last night up popped CoPilot on one!!!! WTF!!!!

      Just like having set search on the taskbar to be an icon on the taskbar, Microshaft changed it back! AGGGHHHH!!! Eff off Microsoft.

      I'm not enrolled in any preview stuff so why are they forcing it on my effing computers? Surely this should be covered under the Computer Misuse Act?

  4. ecofeco Silver badge
    Terminator

    AI PCS can bugger off

    MS can't even get their normal system right and now they want us to adopt Clippy on steroids?

    Oh hell no.

  5. IGotOut Silver badge

    Anti Competitive suit coming in 3...2...1

    You can't call it an MS certified AI pc unless you have a key promoting an MS product.

    Hmmmmm

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Imagine if Framework gets traction

    I have a 32GB AMD Framework 13, which I bought in preference to the fantastic Macbook Air, because I refused to pay £££ to have adequate memory.

    All of the bits inside are replaceable, so in theory, and if the company stays in business, I don't need to buy a whole new laptop. It's a little rough round the edges, but is generally very good. If this sort of thing took off, it would be terrible for laptop manufacturers.

    1. AnoniMouse

      Wishful thinking!

      >> "and if the company stays in business, I don't need to buy a whole new laptop."

      The IT industry will continue to operate the protection racket that threatens to expose users unwilling to keep up with their continual technology escalation to cyber threats, by withdrawing "support" for any hardware that doesn't meet their reqirements - essentialy lots more sales of PCs loaded with features that are unnecessary for most users, and throw hundreds of millions of perfectly usable PCs on the scrap-heap.

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