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The latest version of Firefox improves in areas that should help it fit in better on several categories of hardware. You're most likely to notice the improvements in Firefox version 124 if you use Macs or Android devices. In this release, the Android version now allows you to refresh the page by pulling down from the top of …

  1. Len
    Thumb Up

    Consent-O-Matic add-on

    Sadly, a feature of the beta that's missing from the final release is the Cookie Banner Blocker, although users in some regions may get to enjoy this when browsing in Private mode.

    I have been using the Consent-O-Matic extension by the University of Aarhus to get the same functionality, It recognises many of the typical cookie banner formats and automatically opts-out from as much as possible. I can definitely recommend it.

    1. ianbetteridge

      Re: Consent-O-Matic add-on

      Seconded. It's the first extension I install these days.

    2. abufrejoval

      Pest Control (Re: Consent-O-Matic add-on)

      Usually adding Ublock Origin and enabling all filters is one of the first things I do, not just with Firefox, but every browser.

      But sometimes I get distracted and forget and sometimes I face computers in the extended family, which I haven't set up in that way...

      And it's only then when I get reminded of just how gruesome and intrusive the Internet is for most folks!

      All that bling, all those pop-ups, all those cookie banner waits are a complete nightmare that I'd very nearly forgotten, once those ad-block maintainers (and perhaps even the Mozilla Foundation) have started to put daily sweat and tears into keep them out: that constant battle between the obnoxious street-criers, pouch-cutters, or all the other streen scum vs the defense team I've just taken for granted for years now. I can't help feeling time-warped into somewhere between the middle-ages and the introduction of sewers, when the streets overflowed from chamber pots being poured out on the street and pest infected rats might rather snap at you then letting you step on a dry spot.

      And when things do get through (e.g. recent Youtube nags), they typically get sorted out in just a few days.

      I was very reassured in my choices, when I saw that the newest Raspberry OS just came with Ublock Origin installed and fully enabled within Firefox (Chromium, too, I think), almost the standards setup I'd choose as well.

      So far at least, Ublock Origin is pretty consistent across browsers so while I'll typically enabled browser based defences, destroy-cookies-on-close, and "Do not..." settings, I put most of my faith in UO.

      Which of the two kills the rats first, I haven't bothered to check, because by the time I get to see the page, even the cadavers are gone!

      The Tab Session Manager is the only other add-on I sometimes add on my main machines, where some tabs are left open for days if not weeks and thus cross patch days.

  2. aerogems Silver badge
    Boffin

    but in recent years has discovered that some youngsters use MacBooks like some sort of iPad-with-a-keyboard, running all apps full-screen all the time and switching between virtual screens with trackpad gestures, which baffles and bewilders this crotchety graybeard.

    To be fair, MacBook Pros these days are basically iPads with a bundled keyboard. There's no technical reason why macOS can't run on an iPad, only that Apple won't release a version that will install on an iPad. Still, I'm with you on that being stupid. I saw someone doing that once when I worked at Apple, I tried it for about 5 minutes and quickly gave up because it wasn't even remotely compatible with my job at the time which involved moving data between a browser or SAP window and various spreadsheets, then sometimes back again. It would be nice from an attention span POV. You can only focus on one app at a time, so it helps extend your attention span from "fruit fly with ADD" to at least a couple of minutes.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      People tend to use an OS in the way that is most discoverable... the change from something sensible to stupid was brought about by Apple changing the functionality in El Capitan (I think) and I bet most users today don't even know you can option-click the green maximise icon to get the old behaviour back.

      (Nice RightZoom utility BTW, I'm having that.)

      1. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

        > (Nice RightZoom utility BTW, I'm having that.)

        :-)

        It makes life a little more pleasant, alongside Middleclick.app, Rectangle, HoRDNIS, F.lux and a few other things.

        Happily my copy of RightZoom is old enough that it predates it going payware. Still works fine on Monterey.

        1. two00lbwaster

          And all those additions makes it little different to Ubuntu and the large number of extensions that I add to Gnome to make it usable (and out of that list I found t hat I needed to use at least Rectangle to get a semi-usable experience on the Mac)

      2. Dave559

        MacOS window interface

        "I bet most users today don't even know you can option-click the green maximise icon to get the old behaviour back."

        If by this you mean "maximise to desktop size" rather than "maximise into full-screen mode", then just double-clicking on the window title bar will do that. [1]

        I think I probably discovered this from unconscious force of habit from various Linux window managers, so it was only a small surprise to discover that "Do What I Mean" did actually do what I meant in MacOS too…

        [1] It might not be enabled by default: it's in the Desktop & Dock section of Settings.

    2. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

      My daughter, in her first year of secondary school and so now doing proper homework, is on one of my old macs. All she’d ever done until then was use an iPad so naturally the first thing she does when opening ANY application on the laptop is switch to full screen mode. And the first thing I do when called in to help is try and remember how to exit the bloody thing…

    3. Liam Proven (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      [Author here]

      > To be fair, MacBook Pros these days are basically iPads with a bundled keyboard.

      Can't argue with that really. I just wish mine had a more ports. A lot more ports. And the keyboard from a PowerBook G3 Pismo. And three trackpad buttons.

      I do like the battery life, though, the superfast sleep/wake, and the performance is creditable.

    4. two00lbwaster

      Yeah, I do not understand that weird behaviour. I can't fully recall from using a mac for a few months a couple of years back, I expect that this was one of the things that I found a way to change pretty quickly, but the experience has made asking about hardware choice a key part of my interview questions. In fact if they make it part of the job ad I'm very quick to move on.

      I'm sure that they would be bemused and overwhelmed by my having multiple 4k screens with at least 5 apps open and visible all at the same time, all the time. That and having a proper UK English keyboard layout with a mouse with scroll wheel and back and forward buttons.

      I could do with a couple more 4K screens really, it would reduce the amount of Workspace switching that I have to do but you start running into severe limitations around how many monitors your system can support

    5. captain veg Silver badge

      Macbook = iPad-with-a-keyboard

      This is true from a hardware point of view, so far as I can tell.

      We'll see how far the "macOS is actually Unix" meme can get them in software.

      -A.

  3. Vocational Vagabond
    Meh

    Meh..

    I'll see these features when it has trickled into Watefox, where I can enjoy them without the Mozilla marketing crap tattooing, input fields, windows, toolbars, and the general un-adulterated self congratulation (Manic?) orgy that usually ensues, making it a pain to use . .

    1. RedGreen925

      Re: Meh..

      "I can enjoy them without the Mozilla marketing crap tattooing, input fields, windows, toolbars, and the general un-adulterated self congratulation"

      Yeah I can see how you are so hard done by, I would demand my money back.

  4. remainer_01
    Megaphone

    Where is my Gecko for IOS please?

  5. fnusnu

    Still no zoom and reflow

    Once again the only usable browser for mobile devices is Opera.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Still no zoom and reflow

      If you don't like reader mode there's an addon while it's worked on.

      1. fnusnu

        Re: Still no zoom and reflow

        This add-on is my attempt to provide the "reflow" option for text in Firefox Android. Warning: It is very limited. It will only reflow one paragraph at a time. You will have to tap/click on every single paragraph that you want to reflow.

      2. fnusnu

        Re: Still no zoom and reflow

        It's not being worked on. That issue has been there for five years

    2. Mockup1974

      Re: Still no zoom and reflow

      Yes it's crazy. The one thing I miss the most from Opera.

  6. abufrejoval

    What's all that noise? For me Firefox just works fine on everything...

    I can't even remember when or why I went with Firefox, must have been really early days.

    But ever since, I've just seen no reason to change. IE was garbage and Chromium had one giant disadvantage: it was made by Google.

    And it's just deeply unhealthy to have all parts of an eco-system owned by a single company. Same with Edge or Safari.

    If Firefox were to publish their own OS (as they did at one point), I'd probably run Chromium on that, just because I consider balance of powers essential, to society in general, and to my software environment.

    I run a lot of systems, dozens, really, physical and virtual, spread across Linux, Android and Windows. And I need browser access on nearly every one.

    And I want consistency, same layout, behaviour etc. when I switch between them.

    Well, at least as much as possible; there are some differences between a mobile phone and anything desktop (even with a touch screen), that are implied by the form factor.

    Firefox delivers that, Edge is a no-go, Brave comes close (and is often the 2nd option), I gave up on Opera when it became Chinese and the phones became powerful enough to handle Firefox.

    Of course, I dislike having to disable all the money makers like Google search or that "Pocket recommendations" stuff every time I run a freshly installed Firefox, but even that is a lot faster, when it's pretty consistent across OSs and versions.

    I don't understand the "Firefox is garbage" allegations: everything I do on the Internet works as expected, except where sites get too snoopy or refuse the ad-blockers, which I obviously run with pretty much all filters enabled for sanity.

    And those sites I'm happy not to revisit, unless it's the government and I have to (with the ad-blocker disabled).

    I got the whole family on Firefox, too, and it's been easy probably because I started them there long ago, before Chrome or Edge became as aggressive (and repulsive) as they are today.

    If it were to go away, that would be very hard indeed, much like finally letting go of Microsoft Office completely and finally embracing StarOffice, sorry LibreOffice despite its quirks.

    Functional or performance differences that I noticed have been very rare.

    Google Maps in the 3D Globe view is really impressive in terms of how much it's able to squeeze out of relatively modest hardware. For the longest time I've been astonished on how it would render the neighborhood much better (in terms of accuracy) and much faster (in terms of speed) on a modest Atom system even at 4k than Microsoft Flightsimulator on an RTX 4090.

    But for the Atom (or smaller ARM SBC) I generally had to use Chromium to get that speed, Firefox stuttered on these smaller systems, while I never noticed anything wrong on my normal "desktop" or "worktation" class machines.

    Even that has changed now, I can't see any noticeable disadvantage for Firefox e.g. on Raspberies 4 or 5 with the current software.

    Where I actually *do* see a disadvantage for the Chrome based browsers is on WASM, where it regularly detects and uses less than the full set of cores on machines with lots of cores and threads.

    Yes, only Chromium at the moment seems to enable WebGPU, but once that becomes popular enough, hopefully that will change: I'd really like to see WASM being able to take advantage of the GPU as well, but hardware independance and the ability to exploit ISA extensions and accelerators are rather too conflicting to sort out easily.

  7. Sleep deprived
    Unhappy

    The feature I really hope for at every release

    I dream of turning off the annoying unloading of tabs in Firefox for Android, thus requiring the lost ability to edit the about:config settings.

  8. Ian Johnston Silver badge

    According to the browsers themselves, a tab with this article in it needs 49MB in Chrome (122.0.6261.128) and 304MB with Firefox (123.0.1). Perhaps that doesn't matter any more, but I'd feel more kindly disposed to Firefox if it wasn't such a resource hog.

    PS. Both under Linux Mint.

    1. Mark #255

      And to add another anec-datapoint, about:memory reports to me that Firefox (123.0.1) on Windows (10) is using 40.5MB for the Register article.

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