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OpenAI has responded to Elon Musk's lawsuit over an alleged breach of contract, publishing a trove of emails that appear to show Musk was not only aware of the need to become a for-profit entity, but also wanted to merge OpenAI into Tesla and become CEO. "We're sad that it's come to this with someone whom we've deeply admired …

  1. lglethal Silver badge
    Trollface

    "The Register has contacted Musk's legal team, offering it the opportunity to respond."

    So do let us know when you receive the Poo Emoji, wont you?

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    1. Ben Tasker

      Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

      Or to put a more honest spin on it: Musk was forced out after failing to provide the funding he promised AND trying to take control (by attaching the condition he become CEO). it's in TFA

      > I will cover whatever anyone else doesn't provide.'"

      >

      > Things did not turn out that way. OpenAI went on to claim that by late 2017, its board and Musk decided to create a for-profit entity, but allegedly Musk wanted majority equity and to be CEO. He is also accused in the post of withholding funding, which OpenAI claimed meant Reid Hoffman, a co-founder of LinkedIn, had to step in to cover salaries and operations.

      Not to mention, of course, that you have entirely missed the point: Assuming that what OpenAI have said is even remotely true it means that Musk's lawsuit has no basis.

      Of course, there is a valid argument as to whether Musk being full of shit really constitutes news at this point

      1. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

        Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

        "Being full of" should read "Is a bag of", but other than that I agree completely. :)

        1. Ace2 Silver badge

          Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

          That’s just quibbling

        2. flayman

          Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

          Arguably he is even more full of shit than an entire bag of the stuff.

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

            300 pounds of shit in a 200-pound bag?

            1. Bebu Silver badge
              Windows

              Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

              《300 pounds of shit in a 200-pound bag?》

              Must be approaching critical shitmass?

              A 136kg fusion shit bomb would need a pretty big fan to spread the fallout evenly.

              I thought he was just putting on weight but it seems he may have a twisted bowel (volvulus) and there is an accumulation of his frustrated No 2s that haven't yet been verbalized.

      2. Cav Bronze badge

        Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

        "Not to mention, of course, that you have entirely missed the point: Assuming that what OpenAI have said is even remotely true it means that Musk's lawsuit has no basis."

        That was the whole point of the article. They didn't miss it.

        1. Ben Tasker

          Re: OpenAI Musk and Microsoft

          > That was the whole point of the article. They didn't miss it.

          I know - it's the commentard I was replying to (who's since deleted) that had missed it.

  3. t245t Silver badge
    Boffin

    Musk OpenAI and Microsoft

    So OpenAI forced Musk out after he tried to go commercial. Years later OpenAI gives control to Microsoft.

    Also: Leaking the emails was playing dirty /s

    1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Re: Musk OpenAI and Microsoft

      ...or... Space Karen sues them for doing something he made them do, and here are the emails to prove it?

      Meanwhile, on Xitter, it's free speech if he agrees with it, and he'll sue you if he doesn't...

      1. Cav Bronze badge

        Re: Musk OpenAI and Microsoft

        2 down votes. Is that you downvoting, Mr Muskrat? The comment is truth! How can nayone down vote it?

    2. JoeCool Silver badge

      OR ...

      Musk's duplicitous attempt to control OpenAI through Trojan Horse funding was revealed.

    3. Noram

      Re: Musk OpenAI and Microsoft

      If the emails were relevant to the law suit, which the contents would appear to suggest they definitely are, then Musk was utterly stupid to try and sue with the claims he made, at least if he didn't want them public as discovery would have brought them up, and Open AI would have filed them as part of the defence with the result they would have been on part of the public record of the case.

      In short it sounds like Musk forgot that those emails would have been part of a valid defence against his claims.

      1. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

        Re: Musk OpenAI and Microsoft

        Musk forgets a LOT of things about the real world of the legal system because the thinks money makes him an invulnerable god. Delusional'R'Us.

  4. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    They should have known that Musk emails at best only mean what he says when sending them and should not be taken to mean what he might want to say at some future time.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Man, most of the posts only have two downvotes. We apparently have passed Peak Musk and are running dangerously short of deluded Musk-oxen to carry his water. If everyone just accepts that Musk is an ass, who will entertain us?

  5. Howard Sway Silver badge
    Trollface

    Gasp!

    This has brought to light the frightening possibility that what he says may not always be true!

  6. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "dismiss all of Elon's claims"

    I think that that should be standard practice by now.

  7. Winkypop Silver badge

    Man who regularly talks $&@?

    Talks more $&@?

  8. DS999 Silver badge
    Flame

    Such a hypocrite

    He's just pissed OpenAI's rapidly increasing valuation isn't accruing personally to him, including the shares of his $56 billion stock award the Delaware judge struck down!

    Where's the clown icon when you need it?

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