back to article BOFH: In the event of a conference, the ninja clause always applies

BOFH logo telephone with devil's horns "Uh, I refer you to my decision tree document," I say to the Boss, in response to his suggestion that the PFY and I attend a celebratory event that (and I quote) "no IT person can afford to miss". "What decision tree document?" the Boss asks. "There's a laminated A4 sheet in your …

  1. KittenHuffer Silver badge
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    You have to know the obscure rules ....

    .... otherwise the salesman might capture you en passant!

    ---------> Mine's the one with the por.... I mean pawn in the pocket!

    1. Joe W Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

      It's only obscure if you don't know them... :p

      I'm altering the rules, pray I don't alter them further.

      1. _randomandy_
        Coat

        Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

        You sir, are the spirit of Humphrey Lyttelton and I claim my £5.

        Mine's the one with a recording of Everyman's Guide to Mornington Crescent, part 2 in the pocket.

        1. IanRS

          Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

          I suspect the BOFH and PFY are more inclined to a style more like Calvinball rather than Mornington Crescent, but the grown-up version where not knowing the rules can lead to serious injuries.

      2. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

        I particularly liked this one: we'll need a door-to-door shuttle service which must include the driver aiding us to insert our house keys into our respective door locks.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

      Have you met Mr Buttle? Mr Buttle handles all our purchasing decisions, we just provide technical input.

      There is no Mr Buttle but the telephone number works and the e-mails are responded to with plausible answers but nothing is ever decided.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

        Mr Buttle? Given names Richard Edward? So, RE Buttle?

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

          Sorry, the name should be Tuttle, there seems to have been a typing mistake. Could you send your question again? And do you have a form 27B/6?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosrujtjJHA

          1. mtp

            Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

            And then there is the matter of the missing personal transporter..

          2. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

            Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

            That probably was an interesting video, but I won't be seeing it. Video unavailable

            This video contains content from Universal Pictures, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds

      2. Anonymous Anti-ANC South African Coward Silver badge

        Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

        Bonus points for using an Eliza machine (both voice and email) to keep the Klingon busy for a long while.

        1. Catkin Silver badge

          Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

          That sounds expensive. Connect them to the kid on work experience and pay said kid a small fee for each hour they can keep baiting them.

          1. ChoHag Silver badge

            Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

            Ah interns. Now that's true artificial intelligence.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

            Many years ago we had an intern wirh those duties.

            That intern independently created a fictitious manager who had sole purchasing authority. Klingons were referred to the manager, who never seemed to be in his office. He told me about it when he came to me with a request to create a voicemail box (voice mailbox? voicemailbox?) to help add credibility to the scheme.

            Bright kid. I need to look in to where he ended up.

    3. bemusedHorseman
      Trollface

      Re: You have to know the obscure rules ....

      "The rules are the same as regular chess, except for these changes..."

  2. b0llchit Silver badge
    Coat

    A Klingon salesperson... Where is the honour in that?

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      All sales psersons are cling-ons.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Yes, and if they'e of an appropriate gender, one can allow them to think they're bribing you, horizontally, after the party, for hours...

    2. Slacker1452
      FAIL

      Honour?

      In a Salesman?

      I almost spat my beer out!

    3. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      > A Klingon salesperson... Where is the honour in that?

      All's fair in love and Worfare

      1. Dizzy Dwarf

        Hab SoSlI' Quch!

    4. chivo243 Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Sounds like the House of Quark?

    5. Chronos

      Glory to you - and your commission!

    6. PB90210 Bronze badge

      Surely outclassed by the Ferengi... even a disinterested, jet-lagged, teething Ferengi child...

  3. Joe W Silver badge
    Pint

    also: Rockstars

    Unless you are a "Rockstar Physicist", (Dr. B. May) or a legimate Rockstar developer (developing in the language Rockstar).

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: also: Rockstars

      Or for Rockstar Games

      1. Terry 6 Silver badge

        Re: also: Rockstars

        Brian Cox (not the actor chappie though)

        1. Korev Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: also: Rockstars

          Things can only get better...

    2. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

      Re: also: Rockstars

      (developing in the language Rockstar).

      I had to google that . That is awsome.

      "Tommy used to work on the docs"

    3. A. Coatsworth Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: also: Rockstars

      Or Technology Evangelists... Oh, God evangelists

  4. Anonymous Anti-ANC South African Coward Silver badge

    Beautiful.

    I duck behind a large sign board and look around for the PFY, but he's gone. A large potted plant in the far corner of the conference center appears to have gained mass, though.

    Coffee, meet keyboard.

  5. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
    Pint

    "Alcoholic beverages as social anesthetic"

    Brilliant, I'll drink to that

  6. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
    Joke

    > "which must include the driver aiding us to insert our house keys into our respective door locks. We can usually take it from there."

    > "It's a low-key affair,"

    I'm probably going to hell, but I was expecting a snide reference to the driver's height...

  7. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

    What fool of a company invites _sales_ reps to a staff party? :o

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      You've got to work out exactly whose company party it really was and who was paying for it.

    2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      They're not invited. They turn up anyway.

  8. Rhuadh

    Are there laminated A4 rule sheets available? I want one to flourish every time I get "invited" to a work party!

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      Rhuad,

      There can always be laminated rules, if you want them. If they don't already exist, then it can be your pleasure to create them. The rules you write, are likely to be the ones that suit you best.

      Proposed rules:

      If a meeting doesn't have beer, then there should be decent tea and coffee, plus cakes and doughnuts.

      *Else there should be pizza.

      Any meeting that doesn't have beer must have a 2-page written exception notice justifying why beer is not provided.

      Cidertarians should be catered for equally, when beer is provided. Whiskytarians also.

      Bacon sandwiches are a human right.

      1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

        "Any meeting longer than 30 minutes or of great boredom (my judgement) induces the right to snooze away."

      2. VicMortimer Silver badge

        Sorry, you've already failed at the pizza step.

        If pizza is being provided, it must be from a reputable supplier (no Crapper Johns, no Little Caesars, no Pizza Slut).

        Said pizza must not be composed of only cheese or any cheese + single topping options.

        No more than 10% of available pizza may be vegetarian.

        BBQ chicken is NOT a pizza flavor. Nor should any pizza contain pineapple or corn.

        If a reputable local artisan pizza shop is within 5 miles of the meeting, no chain pizza whatsoever is permissible.

        And when you get to the beer...

        No macrobrews. None whatsoever. If it's available nationally, it's almost certainly not acceptable.

        No more than 30% of beer available may be IPA. Almost everybody is sick of hop tea at this point.

        If a local brewery that doesn't suck exists, at least 50% of available beer will be sourced from there. If multiple non-sucky local breweries exist, 100% of available beer will be sourced from more than one local brewery. No, it does NOT matter if the meeting is in St. Louis, Buttwiper is still a macrobrew and still not acceptable.

        If whisky is provided, Jack Daniels is only acceptable if the meeting is within 200 miles of Lynchburg Tennessee. And it's still considered a questionable choice.

        If bacon sandwiches are provided, there must be available non-iceburg lettuce and high quality, flavorful tomatoes.

        Bacon must be Benton's or other suitable artisan bacon.

        You've got to get detailed, or you end up with crappy pizza and Coors Light.

        1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

          VicMortimer,

          Whoah! We're going to need a laminated lever-arch file at this rate. Although I approve of many of your suggestions.

          HOWEVER

          If bacon sandwiches are provided, there must be available non-iceburg lettuce and high quality, flavorful tomatoes.

          What is this sick filth?!?!

          The holy bacon sandwhich is a very simple thing.

          Bread: Quality bread is nice, but not essential here. Cheap sliced white is fine - I prefer a decent quality soft roll myself: Should be lightly buttered.

          Bacon: Cheap bacon is useable in emergencies only. So long as it's cooked properly so the rind/fat has gone crispy. Otherwise decent quality - don't nuke it! Bacon isn't supposed to shatter.

          Sauce: None. However ketchup and HP sauce should be available - only to stop people moaning.

          Lettuce and tomato are for metrosexual health-nutcases who ought to be sent to run twenty laps of the building, and not to come back until the bacon has been finished. Then they can eat their beloved rabbit food to their hearts' content.

          1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            This. Bacon butties and BLTs are two different things, OP appears to have conflated them. And a bacon butty in its purity should not be contaminated with sauce of any colour.

            1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

              Are we allowed butter?

              1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

                Either lots of butter or coat the bread in the bacon fat.

                Top tip for cold beef sandwiches - use beef dripping instead of butter.

                1. Coastal cutie

                  I agree with you on the bacon fat, much better than butter in this context - however I have to disagree on the sauce, no bacon sandwich/butty is complete without ketchup (Heinz, not designer or cheap crap)

                  1. TRT

                    HP and ONLY HP sauce.

              2. ChoHag Silver badge

                Butter is required.

          2. Evil Auditor Silver badge
            Joke

            Jebus Freakin Crist Spartacus! What is this sandwich that you proclaim? Anyhow, not much into bacon sandwich to begin with...

            Quality bread IS essential and sliced white is - does this even qualify as bread?! And then it simply has to be "prosciutto crudo", preferably from Parma. I agree on the other non-ingredients though.

            1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

              The problem with sliced white is the lack of any taste. Which leaves your tastebuds free to revel in the glorious deliciousity of all that bacon.

              Dry cured back for me. Used to be unsmoked, but I’m buying smoked a bit now, and enjoying it.

              1. Evil Auditor Silver badge
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                You've got a good point there.

                1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

                  You've got a good point there.

                  Nice doing business with you Sir. This agreeing with other people on the internet will never catch on though...

                  While I like my bread to be nice and tasty, there are some things where the square, cheap, sliced white is OK. For example, if you get one of the toastie makers that crimps the edges of the toastie - those square supermarket loaves are the only things that fit properly. And if you don't crimp the edges, all the melted cheese leaks out the sides. Disaster! Plus I like the egg toastie, which positively requires it - put in bread, single raw egg, slap slice on top close maker as quick as you can and hold down to crimp edges before catastrophic egg-leakage. Gets you a mixed fried/poached egg in toast. Yum.

                  Crap white seems to be OK for a bacon sarnies too. Whereas it seems to make a cheese sandwich much worse.

                  1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

                    Toasted bread - now you are talking! For that, indeed, sliced white is my preferred basis. While usually consumed with a proper British Breakfast, I'll have to try your egg toastie...

            2. PB90210 Bronze badge

              A Maria's bacon sandwich was to die for... soggy white bread; catering bacon cooked by her husband, in stained 'white' vest while smoking a ciggy; smear of catering 'butter'; cut by the fearsome Maria herself using a ancient knife like a stiletto due to years of sharpening... heavenly!!!

              The place, just off Warren St, is sadly long gone, but it did sustain many a worker back in the 70s/80s

            3. Coastal cutie

              Whatever you're making with that, a bacon butty it ain't

      3. Snowy Silver badge
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        Biscuits

        Where is the biscuit option! and what percentage must be chocolate?

        1. Giles C Silver badge

          Re: Biscuits

          There’re are only two acceptable options for biscuits.

          Mcvities plain chocolate digestives

          Or

          Bourbons

          Opinion may vary but these are the best ones (says the person who just munched 6 of the above digestives for a snack….)

          1. Martin an gof Silver badge

            Re: Biscuits

            Can I put in a vote for Garibaldi? And a proper ginger nut as the dunker. Both have the advantage of being chosen last by others, meaning more chance there will be some left for me.

            And definitely plain chocolate digestives, not the milk kind (ugh). All four have the advantage of being "cheap" biscuits. If budget is less constrained then a Borders chocolate ginger is welcome (but tends to disappear very quickly).

            M.

            1. Snowy Silver badge
              Megaphone

              Re: Biscuits

              There are many more kinds of biscuits than that, the more that are there the better the chances the one you want left for you to eat :)

              Expand you biscuit selection!

              Rich tea, Digestives, malted milk ginger nuts can uncoated or with milk/dark chocolate

              Fruit shortbread, shortbread and nice biscuits, pink wafers .

              There are many many more

              1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
                WTF?

                Re: Biscuits

                Pink wafers? What sort of subversive are you? You can't call them biscuits.

              2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

                Re: Biscuits

                This isn't the bloody Dark Ages you know!

                The biscuit game has improved since the 1970s! You don't have to put up with dead-fly biscuits, or boring-Bourbons. Let alone the bland-o-thon that is the Rich Tea or the Malted Milk.

                A dark chocolate Disgestive is what I consider a plain biscuit now. I have moved from regular biscuit eater, to buying nice ones for when people come round, and only being allowed the left-overs in the tin for myself. Otherwise I'd probably be a 20-a-day man...

                There's chocolate covered gingers, Choco Leibnitz, Jaffa Cakes (I know they're not biscuits - but yum!), at Christmas there's lebkuchen and specooloos, the occasional box of super-chocolate covered selection boxes - you can often get cheap before and after Christmas. I am still partial to a Jammy Doger though.

                Truth to tell, I think I've gone a bit middle class in my old age. Especially the poncy foreign grub - but that's because I got dragged over to live in Brussels by work twenty years ago - and I've never recovered. I even like roast horse, though obviously I couldn't eat a whole one. Nor is that something you keep in your biscuit tin.

                Lidl do a very nice Belgian continental biscuit selection box at Christmas.

  9. Will Godfrey Silver badge
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    I needed this.

    My day has just improved 100%

    Spent much of the morning (failing to) get sense out of a banking app :(

    1. Terry 6 Silver badge

      Re: I needed this.

      banking app!

      I see your banking app and raise you new shiny VM hub that won't talk to wifi devices.Eventually gave in. Phoned VM. Techie was meant to come Saturday PM between 1 and 4 - after they decided it was configured wrong. Not happening so we have no wifi till Monday.

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: I needed this.

      "Spent much of the morning (failing to) get sense out of a banking app"

      I think I see your problem. You believed there was sense in there in the first place.

  10. disgruntled yank Silver badge

    The rules

    Thomas Reed, eventually Speaker of the House, served on a gunboat during the American Civil War. He was quoted as saying, "I knew the rules and they didn't. I had all my rights, and most of theirs."

  11. Evil Auditor Silver badge

    ...which involves a two-hour drive trapped in a vehicle with a work colleague...

    ...who believes that Bill Gates is buying all the land world-wide (and the Moon and Mars), who heard the Head of WHO proclaiming the decimation of world population to 10 per cent, and who knows that Covid doesn't exist and in fact was invented to reach the mentioned population target. Before you ask, yes, this colleague did happen and yes, I wish it didn't.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      I'm sure there are better nouns than "colleague" to fit the situation.

      1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

        Conspirationalised humanoid?

      2. Chris 15
        Trollface

        Well surely Cow-orker works in this case..

        1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

          That's a bit harsh towards cows. And orks.

    2. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
      Pint

      I like those sorts of colleague

      Partly because it gives me insight into his/her personality, but mostly so I can add more 'facts' to their beliefs.

      I mean who would have guessed all those dashcams on peoples cars can transmit live video back to the government so they can spy on what the population are upto when they drive and indeed how they drive just so they can select a few people at random to get 'due care and attention' fines while sitting at 50 mph in the middle lane of a motorway for several hours.

      Or how metal coins interfere with cell phones evesdropping on what we chat about so thats why physical money is steadily being replaced by online apps.

      And that aliens secretly rule the world because humans have proven to be no good at it.

      ANd the last and most important one is the mind control chemicals secretly slipped into beer to make the world a warmer and fuzzier place..... hic fat potted plants... heh

      1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

        In fairness, the bit about aliens is half true.

      2. Evil Auditor Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Brilliant! Have to remember those...

      3. Chronos

        The sort of person who uses the words "I think" and increases their truth deficit every time they utter them.

        I yearn for my old ToughBook which conveniently doubled as a bludgeon and still performed its primary function afterwards, thereby providing a plausible alibi. We did it to ourselves, of course. We let AOL and Geocities happen and it became the Anti-Social Media circus we now know and hate.

    3. Bebu
      Windows

      Currently

      《..who believes that Bill Gates is buying all the land world-wide (and the Moon and Mars), who heard the Head of WHO proclaiming the decimation of world population to 10 per cent, and who knows that Covid doesn't exist and in fact was invented to reach the mentioned population target.》

      Substitute Musk for Gates and in this business just being the same room these days you will have at least two of these spewing this sort of nonsense and much, much... worse. Verging on Vogon poetry. Although to his (dis)credit Elon is doing his very best(worst) to live up to these ravings.

  12. ShortLegs

    At the bottom of the article was a survey wrt whether we will be integrating AI into our organisation. I answered 'no'

    But I have just thought a use for it - automated responses to sales emails.

    Though, in light of the Canada Air court case we would to REALLY screw down the responses before the AI agreed to purchase whatever snake-oil the vendor was selling

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      You don't need AI for that. Just a long list of responses all expressing enthusiasm and asking for more details, choose at random.

      Even better, have two signatories, one of whom is enthusiastic, the other alarmingly sceptical and alternate them.

      1. Mark 85

        Why go to all that trouble with a simple "f*ck off" message willl work? I prefer simplicity.

        1. cmdrklarg

          Exactly... and it's much more fun.

        2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          You have no sense of public responsibility. The more of their time you waste the less of it they spend pestering other people.

  13. Ozan

    Sometimes, seeing how BOFH and PFY have fun in drink'a'lot's I regret I quit drinking all together. I should have kept the sosial drinking at least.

    1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

      I refrain from social events. That eliminated the need for consuming alcoholic beverages altogether.

      1. A. Coatsworth Silver badge
        Pint

        Althogether? No need to be that drastic!

        You can always go the Finnish way and kalsarikännit

  14. Sam not the Viking Silver badge
    Pint

    Chalk and Cheese

    We used to buy a particular specialised item available from several manufacturers, but two in particular. The respective salesmen were Gordon and Tony..... The products were not identical, consumed spares and were (relatively) expensive. There was great pressure on each salesman to get their product into our bespoke, rotating machines. The two salesmen were very different: Gordon was gregarious and full of bonhomie, Tony had had a social lobotomy, was pleasant enough but he had an embarrassing nickname (I will refrain from using it but it still makes me smile). But..... he held a key card: his product was cheaper and he knew it.

    The decision day was looming and it was clear that Tony was well in the lead. He was invited in to discuss the terms: cost, delivery, stock, response times etc. and most importantly, who the named contact was going to be: Tony himself, as we were assured. As we finished, we agreed to get the proposal written up for mutual signing. Lunchtime loomed and it was thought a celebration was due. Unfortunately, Tony had 'other business' to attend to and had to dash off immediately to another customer. Oh, well. Another time.

    Soon after Tony left, Gordon appeared on the scene and stopped for a quick chat. Although aware he was about to lose this contract he looked at his watch and said, "Let's go and have lunch." There were four in our party so this was indeed generous on his part.

    At the restaurant, who is sitting in the far corner? None other than .....Billy Nomates! Tony quaffing a celebratory beer whilst eating his Chow Mein. His crest truly fell when we walked in accompanied by his main competitor. Telling fibs at the start of a vendor-customer relationship was a bad move. He didn't get the order and over the years we went on to spend a lot of money with Gordon.

  15. Blackjack Silver badge

    If you don't mind being a social pariah offline, start to sell however tries to sell you something about "A religious retreat you are going next weekend" that includes such marvels as waking up one hour before sunrise, hard breaking labour, praying for two hours in the morning and two in the afternoon, no alcohol or smoking, no tech of any kind and a nearby hill blocking cell phone reception.

  16. Bebu
    Windows

    I had concerns for PFY's wellbeing....

    I had concerns for PFY's wellbeing when the AED (packerwhacker) was mentioned and retrieved.

    Getting a belt from one of those could be life changing. (Yes I know the AED actually tries to detect cardiac electrical activity before discharging but operator incompetence or bastardry might also apply.)

    In any case the barman's £20☆ was explained by the more liquid heart starter being substituted.

    In the interest of accuracy there was "AI" twenty plus years ago and oddly decision trees in the guise of expert systems were one of its things back then.

    ☆ legitimate business expense.

  17. Nematode Bronze badge
    1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      I see. Welcome, new guy. PFY stands for Pimply Faced Youth.

      1. Martin an gof Silver badge

        PFY (etc.)

        And in the interests of dissemination of knowledge, herewith repeated the two links at the bottom of every BOFH story documentary:

        The earliest (officially) remaining BOFH, from around 1995 or so: The BOFH Archive

        The continued adventures of BOFH since his tenure at Vulture Towers (2000ish): El Reg BOFH Archive.

        From the first of the above, the official origin story: BOFH Prehistory, which confirms my dodgy memory of reading BOFH articles at university in the late 1980s.

        Hope this helps.

        M.

  18. Rich 11

    Hard-learned advice

    If there's not hot, meat-based food at the event, we won't be going

    I got stuck working on a European Social Fund project back in the late 90s, where the working practice was considerably more hippy-dippy than anything I'd previously experienced. The initial icebreaker/team-building event that I was obliged to attend for a full day did not suit my utterly introverted self; the only friend I made was when I got chatting with one of the admin assistants over the buffet lunch table. Neither of us could identify as much as 10% of the oddly-shaped processed vegetarian products on offer so we legged it for the chippie.

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  20. Bebu
    Windows

    Vaguely familar.

    When I saw the image fronting this story something vaguely familar about the figure ineffectually attempting to conceal himself behind a potted plant which appears to be what is commonly called Mother in law’s tongue (Sansevieria trifasciata) in these parts.

    Just came to me that the figure resembles 11th Doctor sporting a decent beard (not the ones in the Day of the Moon, or The Wedding of River Song) looking like he is avoiding her indoors who has got the hump with him and is on the warpath.

    Anyway I learnt the PFY's name is probably Stephen. Like the the stoned martyr. :)

    1. Martin an gof Silver badge

      Re: Vaguely familar.

      Uncropping said image, what's with the cutlery?

      M.

      1. collinsl Silver badge

        Re: Vaguely familar.

        Looks AI generated

  21. TooOldForThisSh*t

    Road Trip

    The comment about " a two-hour drive trapped in a vehicle with a work colleague " brought back memory of a trip with a coworker from hell. It was a 3 hour drive to a conference with a new coworker who insisted on driving since she would get very car sick if she wasn't driving. Never got over 50mph and the 3 hour drive became 5 - both ways! Plus, she dropped us at the door, went to park and we didn't see her again until the end of the day! Never explained where she went.

  22. IGotOut Silver badge

    You can do what an ex of mine did...

    ...she was going to a very boring convention, so she got completely off her face.

    Apparently sales and marketing bods can't cope with a loved up woman dancing half naked on a table at the coffee stand in the middle of a large convention centre.

    Yes she got fired, but she didn't care, she landed a dream job a few months later.

    1. TRT

      Re: You can do what an ex of mine did...

      at the Baby Platinum Sapphire Club?

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