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The Vietnamese government will begin collecting biometric information from its citizens for identification purposes beginning in July this year. Prime minister Pham Minh Chinh instructed the nation's Ministry of Public Security to collect the data in the form of iris scans, voice samples and actual DNA, in accordance with …

  1. Khaptain Silver badge

    Coming to a govt building near you

    We all know that it's coming to us as well. It's just a matter of time before the spin doctors create a new nudge protocole and for someone to commit a crime that justifies the move.

    1. AMBxx Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Coming to a govt building near you

      And people will still shout 'if you've nothing to hide...'

      1. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

        Re: Coming to a govt building near you

        Anyone who says "if you've nothing to hide" should be forced to reveal their bank account information on Twitter and see how well that works out. After all, they've nothing to hide, have they?

        1. Valeyard

          Re: Coming to a govt building near you

          Anyone who says "if you've nothing to hide" should be forced to reveal their bank account information on Twitter

          didn't jeremy clarkson do exactly that and had direct debits set up for charities by people

        2. The Central Scrutinizer

          Re: Coming to a govt building near you

          At lunch with a friend yesterday, she told me that she had nothing to hide online and anyway, she has incognito mode in Chrome. After I finished choking on my burger, I explained that she did have things to hide as she does banking online. I also told her about how incognito mode actually works.

          She laughed hysterically and then turned a peculiar shade of grey.

      2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Coming to a govt building near you

        And people will still shout 'if you've nothing to hide...'

        They should, of course, read the small print they clicked through when signing up for their online bank account, online retail accounts, social media accounts or whatever. They'll find that those accounts all require them to keep their access details confidential - in other words, hidden. Yes, they have stuff they're contractually obliged to hide.

    2. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: Coming to a govt building near you

      "Think of the children!"

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Re: Coming to a govt building near you

        Indeed, the ability to positively identify lost small children is about the only safe use for this technology.

        Within a few years biometrics in general will only be of use to identify the body right in front of you (especially when some reassembly is required) because deep fakes will have improved until they match sensor resolution.

        1. cyberdemon Silver badge
          Big Brother

          Re: Coming to a govt building near you

          Deep fakes at the level of detail you describe, are only possible for rich people and party members.

          Us proles are the real target of the biometrics push

    3. Roj Blake Silver badge

      Re: Coming to a govt building near you

      There are enough Blairites influencing Labour policy to make me fully expect this to happen in the UK in the next couple of years.

  2. alain williams Silver badge

    How long before this happens in other countries ?

    Who will see this as the way to go.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Big Brother

    "when voluntarily provided by the people"

    Citizens ! Next Monday starting at 7 A.M. you will proceed to your nearest police station to voluntarily submit your DNA to the database !

    We all need to do our patriotic duty for the good of the Nation, and everyone will !

  4. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Ministry of Public Security

    Good name, very "Big Brother"

    there will be a QR code linked to a mass of identifying data.

    So all stored on some internet-connected website reachable via an HTTPS link? What could possibly go wrong...

    1. Wellyboot Silver badge

      QR codes - leading to a 301 redirect, what more could MITM software ask for !

      1. David Hicklin Bronze badge

        The QR code will be tattooed in an appropriate place when you come of age

  5. Handlebars

    Can't recall where I read that in the 30s the Dutch government had a (paper) database with lots of information about citizens. When the Germans invaded they found it immensely useful.

    1. b0llchit Silver badge

      They recorded, among other things, religion of the person. Guess what happened to those with the "wrong" one.

      Recording (very) personal data is not a blessing. It is a gigantic liability.

    2. Captain Hogwash

      https://jacquesmattheij.com/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide/

  6. Magani
    Big Brother

    Thinks...

    Is Vietnam becoming a little China-in-Training?

  7. t245t Silver badge
    Big Brother

    NEC's Biometrics Technology supports Vietnam's new national ID system

    NEC's Biometrics Technology supports Vietnam's new national ID system

    “NEC Corporation .. announced they have completed the modernization of Vietnam’s national ID system”

    Testing it out there before introducing it here :o

  8. IGotOut Silver badge

    The Tories....

    ...gave just shot their load over the idea of this.... unfortunately the Labour Party were helping them finish

  9. MrGreen

    Blair

    Blair will be salivating at this news.

    He’s been pushing this for years.

    The UK will probably deliver this by stealth. A digital currency app that collects your biometric data. The government will offer £20 for free and the sheep will lap it up.

  10. Draco
    Big Brother

    Imagine that ...

    A single party, communist government seeking to incorporate and track as much personally identifiable information as possible. The mind boggles.

    At least Western democratic governments treat privacy not as a nuisance, but as a sacrosanct principle.

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